TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[hugh]

I hope something moves in the near future, for me and many here in the forum 7-9 months for a new prototype is simply too much time.
I hope they can speed it up somehow.
The aircraft absolutely has to be ready as Block 0 in 2028/29, any delay could be fatal for the project.
Many outside interest groups want to see the project fail even in Turkey and I'm not just talking about DEM or PKK/YPG there are other groups that want to see it fail.

What is Block 0? Pilot training aircraft?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I hope something moves in the near future, for me and many here in the forum 7-9 months for a new prototype is simply too much time.
I hope they can speed it up somehow.
The aircraft absolutely has to be ready as Block 0 in 2028/29, any delay could be fatal for the project.
Many outside interest groups want to see the project fail even in Turkey and I'm not just talking about DEM or PKK/YPG there are other groups that want to see it fail.

For the new kid on the block, I think the pace is very reasonable compared to the giants in the field. Actually would be considered record time from both TAI and Baykar if they were produced elsewhere.
I also think that we have the capacity to accelerate processes but that would mean compromising quality and safety elements.

 

[KAAN]

TurAF officials and defense industry representatives came together at TAI facilities to evaluate the current situation of KAAN.

Although it is specific to a single platform; you can understand how special this project is when you look at the photo and see the number of faces you recognize.

The (very) strong AI acted faster than me at the moment I wrote this, but no need to delete it, it shows how extraordinary the project is.

BTW, let me give you the answer, I don't think anyone knows anything about what is being talked about, it's clear it's not a media day.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884289981717614714

 

[alfonsvlora]

I also think that we have the capacity to accelerate processes but that would mean compromising quality and safety elements.

Right here is the Achilles heel!
Let's go back in time to the 1930s, what happened to the air defense industry developed by the great Nuri Demirag ...? It took Turkiye almost 80 years to get back on its feet again.
You know what?... I'm probably speculating , but I think the TF-36000lb engine is now a finished job...

 

[boredaf]

You know what?... I'm probably speculating , but I think the TF-36000lb engine is now a finished job...

That goes beyond speculating.

 

[hugh]

but I think the TF-36000lb engine is now a finished job...

The engine is in preliminary design stage. That means not even 10% of the job is over.

 

[TheInsider]

TurAF officials and defense industry representatives came together at TAI facilities to evaluate the current situation of KAAN.

Although it is specific to a single platform; you can understand how special this project is when you look at the photo and see the number of faces you recognize.

The (very) strong AI acted faster than me at the moment I wrote this, but no need to delete it, it shows how extraordinary the project is.

BTW, let me give you the answer, I don't think anyone knows anything about what is being talked about, it's clear it's not a media day.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1884289981717614714

This is probably about the completion of the CDR phase.

 

[dBSPL]

According to a report prepared by 5 senators from the French Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee who visited Turkiye, TR wants to give support the 6th generation fighter jet program “FCAS”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886008962589352290

The US moves that point to isolationism and its desire to re-evaluate Canada and Greenland issues in line with its own interests are creating a cold shower in the Franco political understanding, which could be a lever for Turkish-French rapprochement.

 

[TR_123456]

According to a report prepared by 5 senators from the French Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee who visited Turkiye, TR wants to give support the 6th generation fighter jet program “FCAS”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886008962589352290

The US moves that point to isolationism and its desire to re-evaluate Canada and Greenland issues in line with its own interests are creating a cold shower in the Franco political understanding, which could be a lever for Turkish-French rapprochement.

This news cant be true,almost impossible.

 

[dBSPL]

This news cant be true,almost impossible.

Yes, there are certainly very compelling dynamics at play and the political structure in France is very populist, they can continue to exclude the Turks by risking to be paralyzed against overt moves by the US, rather than to bring the 'some' lobbies into a certain framework. Both situations are useful for us if we use them correctly.

The most important detail about this news is that this study and the committee formed was a French request, not ours. This means that the defense bureaucracy is to some extent aware of the potential risks. The political conditions that will be created by the change in the US approach to the EU region in line with Trump-era expectations present important opportunities for strong industries in the European periphery.

 

[TR_123456]

Yes, there are certainly very compelling dynamics at play and the political structure in France is very populist, they can continue to exclude the Turks by risking to be paralyzed against overt moves by the US, rather than to bring the 'some' lobbies into a certain framework. Both situations are useful for us if we use them correctly.

The most important detail about this news is that this study and the committee formed was a French request, not ours. This means that the defense bureaucracy is to some extent aware of the potential risks. The political conditions that will be created by the change in the US approach to the EU region in line with Trump-era expectations present important opportunities for strong industries in the European periphery.

I will believe it when its confirmed by the French directly(official statement).

 

[TheInsider]

We should ask France not to support Greece in return.

 

[Bilge adam reis]

I hope something moves in the near future, for me and many here in the forum 7-9 months for a new prototype is simply too much time.
I hope they can speed it up somehow.
The aircraft absolutely has to be ready as Block 0 in 2028/29, any delay could be fatal for the project.
Many outside interest groups want to see the project fail even in Turkey and I'm not just talking about DEM or PKK/YPG there are other groups that want to see it fail.

Could you stop making everything about politics?

 

[Yasar_TR]

This news cant be true,almost impossible.

Defence Turk on Instagram: "🔴🇫🇷Fransız yetkililer savunma sanayii alanında 🇹🇷Türkiye ile iş birliği öneriyor 🔸Fransa Dışişleri ve Savunma Komitesi’nden Türkiye’yi ziyaret eden 5 senatörün hazırladığı raporda heyetin Savunma Sanayii Başkanlığı’nı ziy

529 likes, 12 comments - defence_turk on February 2, 2025: "🔴🇫🇷Fransız yetkililer savunma sanayii alanında 🇹🇷Türkiye ile iş birliği öneriyor 🔸Fransa Dışişleri ve Savunma Komitesi’nden Türkiye’yi ziyaret eden 5 senatörün hazırladığı raporda heyetin Savunma Sanayii Başkanlığı’nı ziyaret ettiği ve...

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Üstat, apparently Defenceturk magazine has made news of it too.
But it is not specific to FCAS. It is a collaboration request to be initiated in many areas of defence industries.

 

[TR_123456]

Defence Turk on Instagram: "🔴🇫🇷Fransız yetkililer savunma sanayii alanında 🇹🇷Türkiye ile iş birliği öneriyor 🔸Fransa Dışişleri ve Savunma Komitesi’nden Türkiye’yi ziyaret eden 5 senatörün hazırladığı raporda heyetin Savunma Sanayii Başkanlığı’nı ziy

529 likes, 12 comments - defence_turk on February 2, 2025: "🔴🇫🇷Fransız yetkililer savunma sanayii alanında 🇹🇷Türkiye ile iş birliği öneriyor 🔸Fransa Dışişleri ve Savunma Komitesi’nden Türkiye’yi ziyaret eden 5 senatörün hazırladığı raporda heyetin Savunma Sanayii Başkanlığı’nı ziyaret ettiği ve...

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Üstat, apparently Defenceturk magazine has made news of it too.
But it is not specific to FCAS. It is a collaboration request to be initiated in many areas of defence industries.

In your own view,is this news plausible?
If so,why didnt the Greek media report it yet?
After all,this is also big news for the Greeks and they know everything about us before we do.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Could you stop making everything about politics?

We both know who you are Manomed The Saviour

 

[Yasar_TR]

In your own view,is this news plausible?
If so,why didnt the Greek media report it yet?
After all,this is also big news for the Greeks and they know everything about us before we do.

If true, this is a “proposition” or a “suggestion” made by a committee of the French state defence agency, to the government.
We know that French have been quite vocal about the advances made by our defence industry, especially in drone technologies. So it is quite feasible for an agency as such, to write a report on the matter.
This may or may not have any relevance over French Government’s views and behaviour regarding Turkey.
I would say wait and see!

 

[boredaf]

I will believe it when its confirmed by the French directly(official statement).

I would still have doubts about it even if I sit on that jet myself, in Turkey, with our flag painted on it, with Atatürk's signature on its side.

I don't think this news is possibly at all. Just a year ago they stopped EU from buying artillery munition from us, despite Ukraine desperately needing them just so funds wouldn't go to us. No fucking way they would just try to cooperate with us in any way, let alone in something so crucial.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I would still have doubts about it even if I sit on that jet myself, in Turkey, with our flag painted on it, with Atatürk's signature on its side.

I don't think this news is possibly at all. Just a year ago they stopped EU from buying artillery munition from us, despite Ukraine desperately needing them just so funds wouldn't go to us. No fucking way they would just try to cooperate with us in any way, let alone in something so crucial.

A year ago the US didn't want to fuck the EU in the ass, times are changing before our eyes.

 

[Huelague]

According to a report prepared by 5 senators from the French Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee who visited Turkiye, TR wants to give support the 6th generation fighter jet program “FCAS”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1886008962589352290

The US moves that point to isolationism and its desire to re-evaluate Canada and Greenland issues in line with its own interests are creating a cold shower in the Franco political understanding, which could be a lever for Turkish-French rapprochement.

Is Greece also involved?
Request came by France not TR.