Looks like 8 missiles.Again, how many weapons can TFX carry in his weapon bays?
I imagine it would be similar to F22 with 2 Sidewinder + 6 AMRAAM equivalent, but do we have any confirmations?Looks like 8 missiles.
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Confirmation comes with first roll out,before that anything can change.I imagine it would be similar to F22 with 2 Sidewinder + 6 AMRAAM equivalent, but do we have any confirmations?
How many can fit in the internal weapons bay and how many external hardpoints?Looks like 8 missiles.
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Probably 8 missiles internal and 6 external hardpoints.How many can fit in the internal weapons bay and how many external hardpoints?
it designed to be fitted with ramjet powered air to air missiles too like the Turkish version called Gokhan, which will be tested this year.How many can fit in the internal weapons bay and how many external hardpoints?
8 internal is pretty big number. Even the J-20 being one of the largest 5th gen fighter can only accommodate 4 AAMs (PL series) in it's internal weapons bay with another 4 external hardpointsProbably 8 missiles internal and 6 external hardpoints.
8 internal is pretty big number. Even the J-20 being one of the largest 5th gen fighter can only accommodate 4 AAMs (PL series) in it's internal weapons bay with another 4 external hardpoints
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The length and wingspan of J-20 & TFX are identical though TFX is taller while J-20 has more wing area. Do you think TFX will have double racked missiles to fit 8x given it's height? but if that's the case, the bulkier body might possible compromise stealth to some extent
I thing more on 6 AAM. What about the weapon load capacity?Looks like 8 missiles.
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Has to be double racked but the body doesnt look bulky enough.8 internal is pretty big number. Even the J-20 being one of the largest 5th gen fighter can only accommodate 4 AAMs (PL series) in it's internal weapons bay with another 4 external hardpoints
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The length and wingspan of J-20 & TFX are identical though TFX is taller while J-20 has more wing area. Do you think TFX will have double racked missiles to fit 8x given it's height? but if that's the case, the bulkier body might possible compromise stealth to some extent
Overall no concrete data yet.I thing more on 6 AAM. What about the weapon load capacity?
6 seems feasible but 8 is hard to fit horizontally next to each other unless vertically stacked which will result in a bulkier undercarriageJ-20 has 4 (main bay) + another 2 (one on each side in the rotation dolley thing they have there in that side volume) = 6 "internal"
The extra 2 in side are IIRC shorter range AAM.
But there is talk that J-20 can stagger 6 in the main bay if they incorporate another mechanism for it. so 6 + 2, similar to F-22.
TF-X will definitely want to have 8 (similar 6 + 2) at its current volumetric concept.
F 35 was designed to release missile at mach 1.5+ ,but all these restrictions arise during flight testing , but f 35 's coat is quite maintenance intensive so that can be a factor .TFX internal bays’ original size may have not allowed many missiles. In fact even SOM-J would not be accommodated. But Tubitak Sage MD has stated clearly that the SOM-J will be carried inside. That is a big missile. So the internal bays’ design must have changed. Until March 2023, we can only speculate.
Also you can’t really compare PL15 with Aim-120 amraam. PL15 is a 4m long 20cm diameter missile, where as amraam is 3.7m long and 18cm diameter.
Also if we are thinking of a meteor like ramjet missile, then Meteor is even very slightly smaller than amraam. So, it should fit in to the same bays.
What is most interesting is that , TUSAS’s site states that:
“Precise and accurate weapon firing from internal weapon bays at high/supersonic speed”
That is something F35 pilot has to think twice, as supersonic speeds damage the plane’s coating and the plane cannot open doors above 1.2 Mach at altitude. Plus at or below 25000ft it has to slow down drastically before opening bay doors due to over heating.
We also need to remember that all our dimensions and weapon platforms have to be in line with NATO standards for interoperability.
Re: f35F 35 was designed to release missile at mach 1.5+ ,but all these restrictions arise during flight testing , but f 35 's coat is quite maintenance intensive so that can be a factor .
Any ground based firing of gokhan missile ? Any model ?