AT LEAST3-4 countries will take the Tempest. Anyway, it will be at least 2 times the price of TF-X.
(it should've been capital letters.)
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AT LEAST3-4 countries will take the Tempest. Anyway, it will be at least 2 times the price of TF-X.
Actually I m not expert about it .I try to understand first of all CDR concept and after digging, I find document at Google. At least some of it. I want to share with forum. What is CDR?I thought about the same thing.
And let me say they are working on Computational Electromagnetic programs. I worked in the project phase of that building. They wanted us to design a system that would hold the chamber at a certain temperature. So, we designed a system and another company run it on CFD, to see if it the system could hold the the chamber surfaces at the wanted temperature uniformly. After that they run it on electromagnetic programs, and decided on openings.
So, my guess is they already calculated aircarft's RC on program. But still finishing CDR without testing the plane on chamber sounds weirds to me. Maybe they are going to speed up the building process as well but i don't know.
This must be the most dillusional take I've seen on this thread in a long while.A deal should be made where TF-X's engine and Tempest's engine use the same core. Rolls Royce would be willing to sign a deal then, because they won't have to design another engine from scratch, and we would retain some IP rights.
Yes, it is a sales pitch. "4th gen" was born as a marketting buzzword, and so was "5th gen". It's just that, sometimes these sales pitch represent the real world quite well and serves as a great tool to understand the differences of varying equipments from various periods in a simplified, easy to understand explanation.Maybe someone should give us a clear definition on what constitutes a 6th gen fighter. What makes the aircraft 6th gen but not 5th? The line between 4th gen and 5th gen is clear but not with 6th gen and 5gen. To me, it's a sales pitch.
Anyone wants to take the bullet and give us his opinion on the subject?
RO was only incorporated to 4th gen fighters in the later years. So was FBW as well. For example the F-15 didn't have a FBW FCS whe it was introduced. Multi-role was introduced before 5th gen.
- 4th Generation: High levels of agility, some degree of sensor fusion, pulse-doppler radar, reduced radar signature, fly-by-wire, look down/shoot down missiles.
- 5th Generation: Stealth, a high degree of maneuverability, advanced avionics systems, multi-role capabilities, network or data fusion capabilities.
- 6th Generation: Manned or unmanned configuration, able to integrate/form a network with other jets, drones, soldiers, sensors. Directed energy weapons (laser CIWS), Virtual Cockpit (pilot helmet 360° vision), AI (for example autonomous landing), and finally the new generation of variable cycle engines (designed to operate efficiently under different flight conditions, such as subsonic, transonic and supersonic)
- No. Only GE has it(XA100). But I fail to see why it's relevant other than range extension.
A major advantage of an adative cycle engine is that it is easier to extract more bleed air when needed. This alongside higher generator capacity are key to future generations of fighter aircraft avionics. You can't just say an engine has this much thrust figure so it has enough power to generate without giving specific SGU capacity and capabilities. If anything, you are taking away the energy from the gas stream to turn the turbine and a generator connected to it.- Can have. The aircraft will have more than 70.000 lbf raw power and it's the biggest 5th gen fighter. It can be integrated to TFX later on.
MiG-25 Foxbat was able to do that. F-15 is able to do Mach 2.5. But MiG-25 handled like a brick and F-15's in service almost never goes above Mach 2.I read somewhere that 6.gen could have max speed of Mach 3.
It’s not the only ones who are able to do. Of course, maneuverability matters, as speed is. But I highly doubt the pilot would fly with Mach 3 during a evasive maneuver.MiG-25 Foxbat was able to do that. F-15 is able to do Mach 2.5. But MiG-25 handled like a brick and F-15's in service almost never goes above Mach 2.
Maneuverability matters more.
TF10000?
Is this the Afterburner version of the TF6000 or a Engine a step above it ?
If latter,
Could we see the TF10000 be used on Hürjet ATJ?
As per my post in other thread;
TF10000?
Is this the Afterburner version of the TF6000 or a Engine a step above it ?
If latter,
Could we see the TF10000 be used on Hürjet ATJ?
Also if the latter,
TEI seems to be creating a engine family from TF6000 ( MIUS, TISU) to TF35000(TF-X) and in the middle I expected either an F404 or F414 equivalent to be used on Hürjet. Is TF10000 this engine?
Have you ever thought about what engine classes should TEI derive from their expanding turbine catalogue. What I mean by this, take TS1400 for instance, you could say TEI should have 5 different engines derived from this core. One is the same size turboprop version, second is a 900hp turboprop, third 700hp turboprop and so on.As per my post in other thread;
”When afterburner kicks in, a 50% increase of sudden ”pulse” of thrust is exerted on all engine parts and engine to plane connections. A complete new engine has to be built to withstand to this force to stop it from crushing in to itself. Hence a different engine nomenclature.
Just like Honeywell F124 and Honeywell F125 engines.”
This is a totally different engine derived from TF6000.
With two of these a Hurjet class plane can be flown.
It will lend itself for use on supersonic TISU or MIUS in single and/or twin format.
Since we are not privy to what is being developed behind closed doors, we can only guesstimate at this stage.Have you ever thought about what engine classes should TEI derive from their expanding turbine catalogue. What I mean by this, take TS1400 for instance, you could say TEI should have 5 different engines derived from this core. One is the same size turboprop version, second is a 900hp turboprop, third 700hp turboprop and so on.
I would like to hear your opinion on different engine classes developed from main engine programs like TS1400, TF6000, TF35000 etc. framed by our needs or for export potentials. If you have a scribbled napkin about this lying around somewhere, it's time to share
i think NGAD and F/A XX still wont have any vertical stabilizers and will have triangle shape body.Initially 6th gen planes were considered to be not having vertical stabilizers but then 6th gens with vertical stabilizers became common. It is probably only about more visibility angles being eliminated by 6th gen rather than eliminating the VS altogether.