TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Siper>MMU]

AFAIK, there isn't much Ivchenko team left. Their knowledge on new gen tech is also very questionable. I am %100 sure that TEI alone can make a competent engine without IVP.

 

[Sanchez]

I wonder what that IVP deal actually entails.

 

[moz68k]

I had a chat with the TEI and TRMotor folks way back at Ankara Teknofest. I asked one engineer at TRMotor about rumors on assistance from IVP for the APUs, and they weren't shy to admit that they indeed had. As for TEI, and this came up organically when talking about the TF10k, one engineer said something along the lines of "getting the best from the east and the west" in terms of engine tech. I didn't prod further, but I suspect there is substantial cooperation with IVP.

 

[Merzifonlu]

I wonder what that IVP deal actually entails.

IMO, only for APU.

 

[Sanchez]

IMO, only for APU.

Those last images that came up point to the opposite.

 

[Merzifonlu]

Those last images that came up point to the opposite.

If a) the Ukrainians have engineers who are experienced and competent in the problems of turbofan engines, and b) if the Ukrainians come up with plans for a 35000 lb turbofan engine from the time of the Soviet Union, then OK for me.

We first modify the Ukrainians' turbofan engine plans according to the technology we have, and then have them calculated on supercomputers using 21st century engineering software. If it gives the desired performance, then we start production phase. In this way, the design process can be shortened considerably.

If so, the TF-10000 must have been designed based on a scaled version of these plans. Because TEI CEO Dr. Mahmut Faruk Akşit had hinted that the TF-35000 engine would be an enlarged version of the TF-10000 engine.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

TUSAŞ General Manager Temel KOTİL spoke about the latest situation in the construction phase of KAAN.
Kaan is 100 percent local and national.
KAAN will change the Turkish Century. All its tests are being done now and it will fly soon.
TR Engine promised us that it will provide KAAN's engine and fly in 2028.

First and third ones seem political and play for the uneducated masses

 

[Heartbang]

Those last images that came up point to the opposite.

How did you reach to that conclusion?

 

[boredaf]

TUSAŞ General Manager Temel KOTİL spoke about the latest situation in the construction phase of KAAN.
Kaan is 100 percent local and national.
KAAN will change the Turkish Century. All its tests are being done now and it will fly soon.
TR Engine promised us that it will provide KAAN's engine and fly in 2028.

First and third ones seem political and play for the uneducated masses

Calling it 100% local is a pretty obvious lie, unless he meant it as in we are building it here which is true. I mean, without going into other components, we don't even make the ejection seat our pilots are going to sit on, it is kinda hard to call it 100% local and national in that aspect.

I also don't think TF-35000 will be ready to fly by 2028. It is almost 2024 and TF-6000 still hasn't started yet, that leaves more or less 4 years to fire it up, iron out the kinks, build TF-10000, fire that up, iron out its kinks, then start building TF-35000 and do the whole process again for it before installing it on Kaan and letting it fly. It is simply unrealistic, it took Pratt & Whitney longer to get F119 ready to fly, after over 10 years of development as well iirc. Hell, even F135 engine took longer and it was built on F119, it's initial development was started way before that as well.

 

[Zafer]

Forward looking statements; in 2028, when comes the time Kaan will fly with Turkish made engine and Turkish made ejection seat and control stick and all. All custom parts will be locally made. Some COTS parts may still remain. This means 100% self reliant and no strings attached. This is the goal, god willing we pull this off by end of 2028. After this configuration is achieved we keep maturing the product until we think it's ripe for relying on it and make them many.

 

[boredaf]

Turkish made ejection seat

Do we even have any projects going on for an ejection seat?

 

[Zafer]

Do we even have any projects going on for an ejection seat?

Initially they were not planning to make them but in their later statements Mr Kotil said they will. We can make them as there are already products that we can inspire from. Not making them would be out of courtesy, but courtesy is for the courteus. When you go all the way to make such a plane leaving one part out would be stupid. An American can rely on the British but a Turk can not.

 

[Ryder]

Turkishfacts4u posts some interesting stuff.

Too bad most of it is bullshit.

 

[Hasanrize]

Acquired from the conference down below.

-TF-X during initial taxi tests.

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-Hürjet (seemingly an old illustration)

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-TRMotor timeline


-TF-X and Hürjet APU development activities

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So, this means that rumors about reverse looking radar is not true?

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

Forward looking statements; in 2028, when comes the time Kaan will fly with Turkish made engine and Turkish made ejection seat and control stick and all. All custom parts will be locally made. Some COTS parts may still remain. This means 100% self reliant and no strings attached. This is the goal, god willing we pull this off by end of 2028. After this configuration is achieved we keep maturing the product until we think it's ripe for relying on it and make them many.

keep dreaming buddy

 

[Oublious]

I found this, kudos to the owner of the channel.

 

[Huelague]

TUSAŞ General Manager Temel KOTİL spoke about the latest situation in the construction phase of KAAN.
Kaan is 100 percent local and national.
KAAN will change the Turkish Century. All its tests are being done now and it will fly soon.
TR Engine promised us that it will provide KAAN's engine and fly in 2028.

First and third ones seem political and play for the uneducated masses

You are lying and very suspicious!

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

You are lying and very suspicious!

?

 

[Huelague]

?

T. Kotil always said engine, ejection seat and control stick are not indigenous. In the last interviews he forget to count control stick. Never said 100% indigenous.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

T. Kotil always said engine, ejection seat and control stick are not indigenous. In the last interviews he forget to count control stick. Never said 100% indigenous.

This is what he said to the media? Why should I lie lmao.