TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[boredaf]

Next prototype will be smaller and see changes to the fuselage.

Source for that?

 

[Khagan1923]

Source for that?

Tolga Özbek

 

[uçuyorum]

Next prototype will be smaller and see changes to the fuselage. So continuing tests with GTU would probably not yield any data that they could use in the development.

Need to keep in mind Kaan still has not undergone CDR and have its design frozen. I expect it will happen at the end of next year though unless they need to make further changes with PT-3 and PT-4.

Hope they keep it and put it into a museum.

Data they collect may not translate 1 to 1, but it is very valuable. They can verify and update parameters of their simulation, and gain a lot of experience for programming fly by wire. They can see how every single piece performs in real life and in air, from surface coating to sensors to fuel pumps.

 

[SilverMachine]

Wait, what? This thing has outside engines?

I mean...welp. Talk about the airframe being dead-on-arrival, it's already ancient/obsolete by the time it gets into service.

 

[uçuyorum]

Wait, what? This thing has outside engines?

I mean...welp. Talk about the airframe being dead-on-arrival, it's already ancient/obsolete by the time it gets into service.

What are you talking about my guy

 

[Radko]

What are you talking about my guy

This is wrong

 

[boredaf]

Tolga Özbek

That's a secondary source though, who was his source because that is a big claim.

 

[Huelague]

Dr. Eray Güclüer say, that the IWB doors will be opened and closed that eyes can’t see.

„The doors will be opened in less than a second.“

 

[I_Love_F16]

Dr. Eray Güclüer say, that the IWB doors will be opened and closed that eyes can’t see.

Please stop quoting that guy here. You already know just by reading this tweet that this is complete nonsense.

 

[Huelague]

Please stop quoting that guy here. You already know just by reading this tweet that this is complete nonsense.

He said, he visited the facility. He looks very determined and serious in his speech to me .

 

[Spitfire9]

Does it matter whether it takes 1 second or whether it takes 2? I imagine that RCS will be increased for 1 second or for 2.

 

[boredaf]

Dr. Eray Güclüer say, that the IWB doors will be opened and closed that eyes can’t see.

„The doors will be opened in less than a second.“

Not this shite again... We've been through this already and this guy is either a complete moron or has some serious issues that needs checking out. He literally says it'll open the bay doors, release its missile and close them in a "salise" it is so fucking out of the realm of possibility that if I saw that in a bloody movie it would push my suspension of disbelief to its limits.

Don't believe me? I posted videos of F-22 and F-35, both planes he claims can do this as well, and neither does something like that, it is mechanically and physically impossible. Go watch those some pages back. But please stop quoting this charlatan here.

 

[SilverMachine]

What are you talking about my guy

Talking about the thing above my post insinuating the engines aren't internal/concealed. No idea if that's true or not. Simply saying, if they're *not* concealed, this plane isn't worth a damn, at least not against anyone like the U.S. or ostensibly Russia/China going forward.

 

[boredaf]

Talking about the thing above my post insinuating the engines aren't internal/concealed. No idea if that's true or not. Simply saying, if they're *not* concealed, this plane isn't worth a damn, at least not against anyone like the U.S. or ostensibly Russia/China going forward.

Post above your is talking about tests being done on a prototype, and below yours is a photo that compares Kaan with other jets. You can check where the engines are before writing posts, maybe? It's a 5th gen aircraft, they didn't hang engines on top of the plane like something out of WWII prototype.

 

[uçuyorum]

So F 15s which your beloved Jews are going to buy ain't worth anything? Maybe, you are right, because it is us tax payers who are going to foot the bill.
It is truly remarkable how cynical people think that the cynicism is form of intelligence.
But you are such, that even the most basic reference can show your thought process.
It took me approximately 2 seconds to come up with this answer. Truly it did

the exhaust gases, in the instances where afterburner is not active, are not well hidden, and vertical stabilizers don't do much to hide them

 

[SilverMachine]

So F 15s which your beloved Jews are going to buy ain't worth anything? Maybe, you are right, because it is us tax payers who are going to foot the bill.
It is truly remarkable how cynical people think that the cynicism is form of intelligence.
But , you are such that even the most basic reference can show your thought process.
It took me approximately 2 seconds to come up with this answer. Truly it did

...Yes. F-15s aren't worth crap against fifth-gen fighters. Yes. They're useful for bombing the everloving crap out of jihadis, whether laughable Al-Qaeda level in caves or equally-laughable Iranians in Guard buildings. Or dominating whatever ancient-era fighter jets most of the non-first-world countries still field. You're not going to attempt taking on Russian or Chinese fifth-gens in a 15 though, even an upgraded 2000s-era one.

And knock it off the with the Jew-obsession, "friend".

 

[Sanchez]

Yes. F-15s aren't worth crap against fifth-gen fighters

Nonsensical, that's not how any of this works. Stealth doesn't have an on off switch that you can "add". It's a spectrum. F-15 is not useless against 5th gen fighters and Kaan have by design a much lower RCS with or without the engines being "concealed" or not.

 

[Strong AI]

...Yes. F-15s aren't worth crap against fifth-gen fighters. Yes. They're useful for bombing the everloving crap out of jihadis, whether laughable Al-Qaeda level in caves or equally-laughable Iranians in Guard buildings. Or dominating whatever ancient-era fighter jets most of the non-first-world countries still field. You're not going to attempt taking on Russian or Chinese fifth-gens in a 15 though, even an upgraded 2000s-era one.

And knock it off the with the Jew-obsession, "friend".

Rock Paper Scissors mentality doesn't apply to any kind of warfare.

 

[mehmed beg]

...Yes. F-15s aren't worth crap against fifth-gen fighters. Yes. They're useful for bombing the everloving crap out of jihadis, whether laughable Al-Qaeda level in caves or equally-laughable Iranians in Guard buildings. Or dominating whatever ancient-era fighter jets most of the non-first-world countries still field. You're not going to attempt taking on Russian or Chinese fifth-gens in a 15 though, even an upgraded 2000s-era one.

And knock it off the with the Jew-obsession, "friend".

Why The Isaelis then get them ?
Do you think that the Iranians won't get SU 57? Whatever, you may say about SU57 , that's the only 5th generation plane who engaged proper air defences, not some people in the slippers?
Know off, talk to your children like that, ok? You a bit far in Australia, aren't you?

 

[hugh]

...The Israelis aren't anticipating having to fight...the U.S. or Russia or China?

Duh.

F-15s are pretty awesome (my personal favorite fighter jet) and more than capable of taking on most of the dumbfuck-primitive world the U.S. (and Israel) and its close allies are likely to come up against in a war situation. ie. Any mother middle-eastern nation not Israel or Saudi Arabia or Jordan (who back Israel over Iran anyway). You know, the *actual* civilized & respectable middle-eastern countries.

Thing is, it's 40 year old tech and not the tip-of-the-spear stuff America or the U.S. are going to be fielding against Russia or China should those backwards cavemen decide to step out of line. Simple stuff - what you've seen from the U.S. & U.K is what they've allowed you to see whilst curbstomping dumbfuck terrorist nothings over a couple of decades. What they're *actually* fielding in any peer-to-peer all-out-war situation is going to have you and your haji friend shitting your britches left right and center. Such is civilization, reap the whirlwind, fuckers.

you know, there are more suitable defence forums out there that are more to your liking if all you're offering is trolling and flamebaiting. i can recommend a few