TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[boredaf]

If they would've combined the vertical and horizontal stabilizer into one, it would've meant less control surfaces and a big reduction in rear rcs.
Also all future 6th gen fighters look like they're going to have this. A good example is YF-23 View attachment 72112
6th gen GCAP
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It's a pipe dream but I hope they make this change as it would set up Kaan to be a true 6th gen platform also, through upgrades.

Like a bloody clockwork...

YF-23 flew over 30 years ago and now in a museum and GCAP is just a mock-up. 6th gen is barely more than a concept right now, we are trying to build a 5th gen from scratch which is hard enough as it is and you want 6th gen?

How about we get enough Kaan for our protection first, then we worry about changing its design to make it 6th gen?

Or should we keep acting like kids who want their dessert before finishing their dinner and change its design and put ourselves back several years?

 

[Saithan]

That's kinda what I think of ppl who want Kan while Hürjet seems easier achievable

 

[hugh]

Third flight is imminent

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1857699325557514653

 

[Zoth]

Like a bloody clockwork...

YF-23 flew over 30 years ago and now in a museum and GCAP is just a mock-up. 6th gen is barely more than a concept right now, we are trying to build a 5th gen from scratch which is hard enough as it is and you want 6th gen?

How about we get enough Kaan for our protection first, then we worry about changing its design to make it 6th gen?

Or should we keep acting like kids who want their dessert before finishing their dinner and change its design and put ourselves back several years?

Concept wise, we don't even know how much a 6th gen will differ from a 5th gen.

The most important features of a 6th gen would be : AI/Autonomy and Network -Centric Warfare where the 6th gen frame utilizes and communicates both with ground and air systems such as Satellites, Drones, Radars etc.

There are of course other important features too but i personally believe that those 2 will be deciding factors of a 6th gen fighter.

YF-23 vs YF-22 debate is always the same, one is not better than the other, one design excels fully in stealth and speed while compromising maneuverability and the other one compromising on stealth to be more balanced all around and better maneuverability.

One is not better than the other, both have it's usage but YF-22 winning the competition is really normal when USAF already had so many stealth platforms.

 

[Zoth]

TAI CEO said that they plan a 3rd flight this year and this site market it like they have insider information. They have to learn only to quote the source instead acting like they know more.
Besides this flight has no significance because it is still only the GTU.

Yeah, i saw this too and i just "meh" and scrolled down, it's not even exciting anymore. What exciting is too see how different P1 and P2 will be compared to the Ground Prototype.

 

[hugh]

TAI CEO said that they plan a 3rd flight this year and this site market it like they have insider information. They have to learn only to quote the source instead acting like they know more.
Besides this flight has no significance because it is still only the GTU.

Yeah it's one of the worst defense publications. They use photoshopped image of KAAN. They never quote their sources as you said it.

 

[MADDOG]

Before the actual maiden flight, KAAN was equipped with an augmented reality system and, together with test pilots on the ground, repeatedly tested its initial flight profile using the actual flight control system, gathering their feedback. This effort represents an advanced example of TAI's 'Aircraft in the Loop Testing' concept.

#kaan #turkishaerospace | Hakan Aydemir, PhD

Baş Test Pilotumuz Barbaros DEMIRBAS Bey, III. Ürün Emniyeti ve Sertifikasyon Sempozyumu’nda Erman Özer Bey ile birlikte bu konuya detaylı şekilde değindi. Gerçek KAAN’ı ilk uçuşundan önce genişletilmiş gerçeklik sistemiyle donatarak, pilotlarımızla birlikte yerde gerçek uçuş kontrol sistemini...

www.linkedin.com

 

[Kitra]

If they would've combined the vertical and horizontal stabilizer into one, it would've meant less control surfaces and a big reduction in rear rcs.
Also all future 6th gen fighters look like they're going to have this. A good example is YF-23 View attachment 72112
6th gen GCAP
View attachment 72113
It's a pipe dream but I hope they make this change as it would set up Kaan to be a true 6th gen platform also, through upgrades.

That looks like a huge retroreflector excellent at reflecting any radar signal back to the source. Not the best design choice for a stealth fighter.

 

[Saithan]

Oh come on, we've been here before. Just wait it out, and let's see if it'll manifest into 100+ KAAN orders to the TuAF at all. even if it's just a fucking 4th or 4,5th gen it'll still be a fucking achievement!

 

[Zoth]

Oh come on, we've been here before. Just wait it out, and let's see if it'll manifest into 100+ KAAN orders to the TuAF at all. even if it's just a fucking 4th or 4,5th gen it'll still be a fucking achievement!

Even in a hypothetical scenario that is not that plausible where Kaan ends up as 4th gen, i'm still okay with that, somehow we gotta start from 0 and reach certain point, you can't walk without learning kneewalking, you can't run without learning walking, i think our industry is quite capable, the only problem that we will have to solve is the engine, the rest of the avionics and systems are a matter of time.

 

[Zoth]

Even with its current US engines, KAAN will be better than all current 4.5th gen fighters (better stealth and better sensors). The indigenous engines will come sooner or later.

Yes i know, what i was trying to mention was that, that even if it was 4th gen i would still be okay with it, we gotta start from somewhere.

 

[Huelague]

Eray Güclüer said, Kaan engine is finished and ready for tests.

 

[Sanchez]

Eray Güclüer said, Kaan engine is finished and ready for tests.

Let's not. That man have proven only that he has a mental issue.

 

[YeşilVatan]

Eray Güclüer said, Kaan engine is finished and ready for tests.

I don't buy it. I also never wanted to be wrong this hard.

 

[fushkee]

Eray Güclüer said, Kaan engine is finished and ready for tests.

I don’t think so. Most probably he is confused. Maybe he is talking about TF-6000/10000 which maybe is ready for the tests. It is obviously major milestone on the way of producing TF-35000. There should be some kind of misunderstanding.

 

[boredaf]

Eray Güclüer said, Kaan engine is finished and ready for tests.

Sounds like utter bullshit as even the tests on TF6000 has barely just begun. Wait, is this the same clown that was talking about inner bays doors opening and closing in "1 salise"? Why on earth are you guys still taking this guy seriously?

 

[hugh]

Sounds like utter bullshit as even the tests on TF6000 has barely just begun. Wait, is this the same clown that was talking about inner bays doors opening and closing in "1 salise"? Why on earth are you guys still taking this guy seriously?

the guy has a screw loose.

Mahmut Akşit recently has said that they're in the preliminary design phase of the engine.

 

[Fairon]

I don’t think so. Most probably he is confused. Maybe he is talking about TF-6000/10000 which maybe is ready for the tests. It is obviously major milestone on the way of producing TF-35000. There should be some kind of misunderstanding.

Eray Gucluer does think TF6000/10000 will power KAAN so who nows.

On the other hand, they may have said him just that there will be an engine that power KAAN and he may understood that the engine is ready for the tests.

 

[Rooxbar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1858623717829497245

Proper comedy show with a lot of clowns.

 

[YeşilVatan]

Değnekli Boomer Brigade is a threat to national security.