TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[boredaf]

On the other hand, most of the Intel guys like this provides would be wrong so there is that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What, you don't believe in "stealth level detectors"? How dare you sir?!

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Can someone tell me why it looks very weird from this angle?
Is the nose too long, it looks kind of deformed?
I remember someone saying they were going to make the nose shorter or something.

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I would love to see the radome change like below

 

[Heartbang]

Can someone tell me why it looks very weird from this angle?
Is the nose too long, it looks kind of deformed?
I remember someone saying they were going to make the nose shorter or something.

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A lot of the pictures available of KAAN has been shot with a short focal length.
Short focal length distorts the object of the picture by its nature.
Please refer to the gif attached down below:

 

[somegoodusername]

Kaan news

• Geometry improvements for stealth
• Stealth paint works
• Internal weapons bay performance
• Stealth level detector

This guy is the least credible 'defense analyst' out there. Please cite people with more than zero credibility. Just last week, he was being mocked on Twitter for his absolutely ridiculous analysis.

 

[Zoth]

Can someone tell me why it looks very weird from this angle?
Is the nose too long, it looks kind of deformed?
I remember someone saying they were going to make the nose shorter or something.

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F-22 nose
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Kaan nose:
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Kaan doesn't look very proportional, nose is too long.
Kaan needs a nosejob. Maybe some changes to the fuselage too. I think P1 prototype will be different come 2025.

Because you are comparing an end product to a prototype that is not even a fly prototype.

Kaan will get many iterations and changes with the upcoming fly prototype(s) in 2025, it will get shorter and will have a more compact design close to production prototype after installment of the necessary avionics.

 

[TR_123456]

You don't know what you are saying, I am not defending anyone. I am saying there is news in the talk.

Fake news is no news,stop defending it!!!

 

[TR_123456]

How do you know it is fake news? Please explain.

Are you nuts?

''less than a 60th of a second''

''salise diyorum. saniye değil''


''The TF-10000 will power the KAAN''


Kafami buluyorsun?
Let this be a warning to all,no more bs videos of bs ''professionals''.
End of discussion.

 

[Yasar_TR]

This is a respectable forum. There should be no place for false and wrong information.
We have had people like late “Mr Bekdil” and now this guy. They are full of wrong information. Worst of all this guy doesn’t know he is spewing out crap. We as forum members should have the right wisdom not to quote fake and faulty information.

By the way; in Turkish a “Salise” is one sixtieth of a second.
True English word for that is “third”.

 

[Kartal1]

Lets drop the childish behavior and move on with some more educational content.

No need to engage in that kind of absurd debates that bring nothing positive to the table. Lets talk about facts, realities and credible information that is to be expected from us.

No more bullsh!t.

 

[Zafer]

Can anyone shed some light on how F35 and F22 do not show on radar when they open their IWB doors, if actually they don't show on radars. And can Kaan not do the same trick.

 

[CAN_TR]

The same topic was mentioned in that same talk about Kaan.

Don't we have information on whether they show or not on radars when they open IWB doors.

They are visible when the weapon bays are open, who exactly claimed that they aren't?

Why are you so eager to defend such a illogical claim?

 

[boredaf]

Can anyone shed some light on how F35 and F22 do not show on radar when they open their IWB doors, if actually they don't show on radars. And can Kaan not do the same trick.

There is no trick, when the IWB doors open they of course disturb the planes profile, they guy was once again speaking nonsense. And it doesn't take a "salise" either. You can easily find videos if you just googled F-35 / F-22 firing a missile.

Here is the link to first video for F-35:

And here is one F-22 firing missiles, launching flares and even firing its gatling:

 

[Rooxbar]

Can anyone shed some light on how F35 and F22 do not show on radar when they open their IWB doors, if actually they don't show on radars. And can Kaan not do the same trick.

sorunun cevaplanabilecek olmamasını görmek için: 18 dakika, 2x izle olsun 9 dakika; elinden öper.

 

[Huelague]

If IWB doors opens, it can be seen on Radar right. The “TV Expert” said, the AI on KAAN knows, where the radar beams come from (angle) and turn the plane to become less visible. Is that correct?
What’s happen, when the plane turn his ‘back’ to the radar beams, during he opens his IWB doors ? Can the radar detect the open doors?

The IWB became an issue after the Yugoslavia war and the shot down of a F-117. We can just speculate, but after this accident, we can imagine they improved the whole system.

 

[Sanchez]

If I may,

However there is a merit to doing this task in a very short time and race is on to achieve the lowest time.

I think everyone would agree with this.

Problem with shortening that timeframe is down to very fast and powerful actuators needing to be heavy to handle that kind of load, and this all being on an aircraft going 500kmh, hence it needing to be as light as possible. Same with the door itself.

Actual reason people disagree and lambast the guy on the tv is because it's not physically possible to complete the action of opening door, extending and releasing the missile and closing the door under a second. Saying "a shorter timeframe to complete this action is advantageous" is very different than saying it can be done in miliseconds. And by that effect, if someone is very certain on something this clear and basic(that this action can't be done in miliseconds), it's very possible that the person in question with a stick in his hand have also misunderstood other things that were told to him by the engineers during his trip, and he's an unreliable source at best and we shouldn't put much thought into his words and claims on tv.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Dear members as mentioned here before,
fake news is no news.
this is a respectable forum.
Let us discuss more credible issues.

All unnecessary posts that are Related to “fake and no basis” news have been erased.

 

[Heartbang]

If IWB doors opens, it can be seen on Radar right.

Yes.

The “TV Expert” said, the AI on KAAN knows, where the radar beams come from (angle) and turn the plane to become less visible. Is that correct?

It even isn't an AI task.
All modern fighter jets do know when and where they get "marked" with a radar on the merit of their advanced RWR systems.
Rafale's RWR can guide a bomb to said radar's location(that's how they got one of our Hawk batteries in Libya AFAIK.) and EF2K's RWR can provide guidance data to plane's own Fox-2's in order to intercept A2A missiles coming for the jet.
Chinese J-20's can also adjust the angle of its canard's to maintain radar stealth, allegedly.

What’s happen, when the plane turn his ‘back’ to the radar beams, during he opens his IWB doors ? Can the radar detect the open doors?

For air-to-ground scenarios, you need to turn the plane upside down to make the plane "turn his back to the radar beams." you ain't dropping bombs in that scenario.
In air-to-air scenarios, it doesn't matter that much anyway.

 

[Huelague]

It even isn't an AI task.
All modern fighter jets do know when and where they get "marked" with a radar on the merit of their advanced RWR systems.

Yes, they know when they get marked, but doesn’t know how to move or turn the plane to get less visible in the best angle.

 

[Heartbang]

Yes, they know when they get marked, but doesn’t know how to move or turn the plane to get less visible in the best angle.

As I said above, J-20 (allegedly) adjusts its canard angles accordingly.
Also, F-35's do analyze the radar signal on-the-fly and show the range, bearing and type of the radar to the pilot. Not unlike the radar screens in video games. But since it is a MANNED plane, the final decision in in the pilot's hands.
Kaan would be able to do the stuff the F-35 and Eurocanards can do, as described above.
But an automatic avoidance system like you describe is probably will be in Kızılelma.

Video on the F-35's radar thingy:

 

[Hannibal]

Do we think the rear-end design of the Kaan will change, or is it final after the critical design review finishes?

Rafale started with 2 F404 engines then later switched to 2 M88 Engines, as you can see the rear tail has changed.

Going from F110 to TF35000?