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Can someone tell me why it looks very weird from this angle?
Is the nose too long, it looks kind of deformed?
I remember someone saying they were going to make the nose shorter or something.

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Kaan doesn't look very proportional, nose is too long.
Kaan needs a nosejob. Maybe some changes to the fuselage too. I think P1 prototype will be different come 2025.

Because you are comparing an end product to a prototype that is not even a fly prototype.

Kaan will get many iterations and changes with the upcoming fly prototype(s) in 2025, it will get shorter and will have a more compact design close to production prototype after installment of the necessary avionics.
 

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This guy is the least credible 'defense analyst' out there. Please cite people with more than zero credibility. Just last week, he was being mocked on Twitter for his absolutely ridiculous analysis.
What does it matter, we are not expecting him to do analysis, we just care for news coming from Kaan and there is plenty of them in that talk. Where else have you heard news on the some subtopics of Kaan.
 

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What does it matter, we are not expecting him to do analysis, we just care for news coming from Kaan and there is plenty of them in that talk. Where else have you heard news on the some subtopics of Kaan.
did you actually watch that video before posting it here?
 

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and you found no illogical or absurd claims, it's only a "wealth of information" as you put it?
Claims may look illogical to you but you need to sift through the clutter. He talks about milliseconds but he also says same performance as the competition. News do not always come in the exact form as you like them but one can always relate them to what can be expected from the project.
 

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Claims may look illogical to you but you need to sift through the clutter. He talks about milliseconds but he also says same performance as the competition. News do not always come in the exact form as you like them but one can always relate them to what can be expected from the project.
you don't need to be so verbose. Skip to the 10:30 in the video and watch it for a minute. Come back and tell us what you think of it?
 

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you don't need to be so verbose. Skip to the 10:30 in the video and watch it for a minute. Come back and tell us what you think of it?
I don't take directives from online personalities, why don't you just tell what words you criticize instead.
 

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Claims may look illogical to you but you need to sift through the clutter. He talks about milliseconds but he also says same performance as the competition. News do not always come in the exact form as you like them but one can always relate them to what can be expected from the project.
You're defending someone making shit up and pretending like it is news, by your definition, anyone can say anything and it would be news because it is something you didn't hear before. This guy comes of as nothing but a charlatan.
 

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You're defending someone making shit up and pretending like it is news, by your definition, anyone can say anything and it would be news because it is something you didn't hear before. This guy comes of as nothing but a charlatan.
You don't know what you are saying, I am not defending anyone. I am saying there is news in the talk.
 

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I don't take directives from online personalities, why don't you just tell what words you criticize instead.
It's the video you posted man. But ok. I'll bite the bullet and provide the transcription(i will put [C] for the clown who is sharing the news and [OS] for the other speakers).

You'll have a tingling in your ear because you made me watch that video the third time.

In the video around the minute 10, he's talking about the the vulnerability of the stealth fighters when they have to launch missile from their internal bays. Saying when the lids are open radars can easily detect the aircraft and then provides the Turkish solution for it, saying,

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"[C] bunu önlemek için buradaki gövdeden füze ateşlenmesi için, bakın.. üç şey. kapak açılıyor, füze ateşleniyor ve kapak kapanıyor. bunu bir salisenin altında yapıyor. o yüzden göremiyorsunuz.

- [OS] bir salisenin altında?

- [OS] saniye mi salise mi?

- [C] salise diyorum. saniye değil.

- [OS] saniye olmasın o ya?

- [C] hayır hayır hayır.

- [C] gözlede göremezsiniz.
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Translation:

"To prevent this, in order for the missile to be fired from the hull here, look... three things. The hatch opens, the missile is fired and the hatch closes. It does this in less than a 60th of a second. That's why you can't see it.

- [OS] under 60th of a second?

- [OS] is it a second or 60th of second?

- [C] i'm saying 60th of a second, not a second.

- [OS] are you sure it's not a second?

- [C] no. no. no

- [C] you can't see it with eyes.
"

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If you can't call the bullshit on this one then you'd have to weed through your entire knowledgebase to be able to utter anything credible.
 

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It's the video you posted man. But ok. I'll bite the bullet and provide the transcription(i will put [C] for the clown who is sharing the news and [OS] for the other speakers).

You'll have a tingling in your ear because you made me watch that video the third time.

In the video around the minute 10, he's talking about the the vulnerability of the stealth fighters when they have to launch missile from their internal bays. Saying when the lids are open radars can easily detect the aircraft and then provides the Turkish solution for it, saying,

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"[C] bunu önlemek için buradaki gövdeden füze ateşlenmesi için, bakın.. üç şey. kapak açılıyor, füze ateşleniyor ve kapak kapanıyor. bunu bir salisenin altında yapıyor. o yüzden göremiyorsunuz.

- [OS] bir salisenin altında?

- [OS] saniye mi salise mi?

- [C] salise diyorum. saniye değil.

- [OS] saniye olmasın o ya?

- [C] hayır hayır hayır.

- [C] gözlede göremezsiniz.
"

Translation:

"To prevent this, in order for the missile to be fired from the hull here, look... three things. The hatch opens, the missile is fired and the hatch closes. It does this in less than a 60th of a second. That's why you can't see it.

- [OS] under 60th of a second?

- [OS] is it a second or 60th of second?

- [C] i'm saying 60th of a second, not a second.

- [OS] are you sure it's not a second?

- [C] no. no. no

- [C] you can't see it with eyes.
"

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If you can't call the bullshit on this one then you'd have to weed through your entire knowledgebase to be able to utter anything credible.
You don't understand, numbers do not matter, he says the performance is on par with F35 and F22. Can you not hear that part.
 

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How do you know it is fake news? Please explain.
Are you nuts?

''less than a 60th of a second''

''salise diyorum. saniye değil''


''The TF-10000 will power the KAAN''



Kafami buluyorsun?
Let this be a warning to all,no more bs videos of bs ''professionals''.
End of discussion.
 

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For one thing a millisecond is 1000th of a second not 60th, get your facts right. And those numbers do not matter, he says on par with the F35 and F22. Don't you thinks this is news enough to share and talk about, number and all that bullshit showmen say just to stir discussion and get comments and social media attention. If you are disregarding news just because of these points you guys are missing too much.
 

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And those numbers do not matter, he says on par with the F35 and F22
Those numbers matter when he is also making those claims about F-35 and F-22, which is not true for them either. You are literally hearing what you want to hear not what he is saying. How on earth he could even know that when the first proper prototypes that'll do the actual flight testing won't be done until the end of 2024 or maybe 2025?

Don't you thinks this is news enough to share and talk about, number and all that bullshit showmen say just to stir discussion and get comments and social media attention. If you are disregarding news just because of these points you guys are missing too much.
Making stuff up does not equate to news, in fact, it is the opposite. If he is making stuff up just to get clicks, then he could easily be making everything up and talking out of his ass. I'll repeat, you're hearing what you want to hear among that guys bullshit, what you want to interpret from that nonsense is not news.
 

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This is a respectable forum. There should be no place for false and wrong information.
We have had people like late “Mr Bekdil” and now this guy. They are full of wrong information. Worst of all this guy doesn’t know he is spewing out crap. We as forum members should have the right wisdom not to quote fake and faulty information.

By the way; in Turkish a “Salise” is one sixtieth of a second.
True English word for that is “third”.
 
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