TR TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[IC3M@N FX]

This jet is going to be underpowered so terribly.. what a shame. The new engines won't fix this either.. It's basically twin engine and larger than f-22 but slower, weaker, lighter and multirole to be like f-35 because they won't be able to make a single good engine. Super inefficient. I am starting to consider whether they want to abandon it but kept on working on it for political reasons(votes or s400 fiasco). Years have been past and still absolutely zero news about it's engines so far. No one is building a 30k+ dry trust engines in the world.

As a kid I grew up dreaming about this plane before it was even announced to the public but as you get older and understand Turkey, you know it was all just a dream. Let's fund the Diyanet even more.

What do you expect? That we build the best fighter in the world? You know that our budget is between 30-40 billion US dollars. Not counting the SSB funds, so what do you expect? That we quickly develop an F-22 Raptor 2.0 out of thin air? TAI KAAN is the first truly professional fighter aircraft that we are developing and manufacturing. TAI has never claimed that KAAN will be better than F-22/F-35.
If we are lucky, it will reach approximately the performance of Rafaele, Eurofighter Tranche 3/4 or F-15 Super Eagle II plus the bounces of stealth and that is totally enough for Turkey.
Turkey will not go to war against the USA, Russia or China.

USA 800-900 billion USD military budget
China 300 billion USD military budget
Russia 120 billion USD military budget

The world is not amazed because we are developing the best Gen 5 fighter, but because we are developing something useful with more modest means that makes sense.
Moreover, KAAN is not the end of Turkey's aircraft development, it is a learning process and an evolution through better and better procedures and combat enhancements that improve the quality of the aircraft itself.

 

[Sanchez]

Turkey will not go to war against the USA, Russia or China

Possibly not, but there's a high change Kaan will fly opposite other 5th gen fighters. It has to go toe to toe with them. It being ours and local does not mean much when it has to win both for us and for export users even in its block 10-20 variant.

 

[boredaf]

This jet is going to be underpowered so terribly.. what a shame.

How do you know that?

The new engines won't fix this either

Why is that?

It's basically twin engine and larger than f-22 but slower, weaker, lighter and multirole to be like f-35 because they won't be able to make a single good engine

What is wrong with having two engine multirole plane? What makes you think they won't be able to make a single good engine?

Super inefficient.

Again, why? What about it makes it "super inefficient", in comparison to what?

Years have been past and still absolutely zero news about it's engines so far.

Tests are continuing TF6000, and TEI was working on afterburners for TF10000 in the meantime. Both of these projects are steps towards TF35000, which is yes still some time off. What kind of news were you expecting exactly?

No one is building a 30k+ dry trust engines in the world.

And? It matters why?

As a kid I grew up dreaming about this plane before it was even announced to the public but as you get older and understand Turkey, you know it was all just a dream.

The plane flew. Twice. And project is going on, hundreds of people are working on both engines and plane itself. What were you expecting? That everything would be done in a flash? It might not even fly with TF35k in 2028, frankly I don't expect it until early 2030s, but the project is still going. There isn't a single proof that it has stopped or even slowed down.

If you are going to start complaining about it already, even though Kaan first flew not even a year ago, you'll run out of breath before you see the production models. Some patience ffs.

 

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tf35000 gelmez

 

[IC3M@N FX]

tf35000 gelmez

What kind of logic do you think we would not even be able to develop and manufacture a normal screws?
The development of an complex high performance engine takes 8-10 years on average, why should this period be different for Turkey?
Are you perhaps suffering from a feeling of inferiority that only the USA, EU and Asia can develop high technology and Turkey should not try?
Thank God there are more people who have the faith and the will to research develop, otherwise we would be a country of absolute backwardness like Afghanistan.

People like them who don't believe in their own abilities have hindered the country's self-esteem for decades. Nation and people alike become successful when they achieve things and this is achieved step by step. If you can't handle that, you shouldn't read any more news in the Defense Industry.

I don't know of any country in the world that hasn't had the same difficulties producing their own high performance engine and the key to the solution is time and perseverance.