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Savunma Sanayii Başkanı Haluk Görgün, milli muharip uçak KAAN’ın test süreci ve üretim planlamasına ilişkin detayları açıkladı.

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KAAN aims domestically produced engines in Block 30

The first prototype of KAAN was produced and flew twice. In other words, we've become a country that has produced a self-flying fighter jet. Of course, that first flight was a great source of motivation, excitement, happiness, and pride for all of us. But of course, it doesn't end there. Just flying that plane isn't enough.

Haluk Görgün stated that simply flying the aircraft is not enough, and that the integration of many subsystems such as radar, electro-optical systems, mission computers and weapon systems is required.

"The subsystems that will be integrated as a whole, their mission computers, and the weapon systems that will be integrated into the aircraft. These weapon systems are so diverse, including air-to-air munitions, air-to-ground munitions, and so on. When all of these are completed in an integrated manner, we will have completed KAAN and be delivering it to the inventory. We have now initiated each of these and are continuing."

Haluk Görgün explained that the capabilities of the aircraft produced in the subsequent phases of KAAN will vary, and that the plan is to enter service with aircraft powered by domestically produced engines at the Block 30 and Block 40 levels.

“After these initial prototypes, we will, of course, be delivering a few more of these aircraft. The capabilities and competencies of the aircraft in each phase will differ. Therefore, some aircraft will be used in certain environments. But when we finally reach the Block 30 and Block 40 levels, we will have installed, produced, and are flying our domestically produced engine.”

 

[fushkee]

This means a delay on the domestic engine.

 

[Zafer]

Block 30 and biock 40 would be with domestic engine as the engine will have likely been matured by then. However earlier stages will need to go with the best engine available at the time. If foreign engine is better then foreign and if early Kaan engine is better then national engine would be used.

 

[TheInsider]

This means a delay on the domestic engine.

No. Expected dates of different blocks are Block 10 in 2028, Block 20 in 2030, Block 30 in 2032.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Block 10 2028/29 GE F-110 Engine, "Initial Operational Capability"

Block 20 2032 with improved stealth coating + UAV teaming, including electronic maturity of the on-board systems for deployment.

Block 30 2034/35 TEI TF-35000 engine and minor to moderate improvements to both hardware and software.

Block 40 2040+ TEI TF-35000 V2 improvements in durability and operating hours + TVC (Thrust Vectoring Control).
Probably larger Gen 5.5+ upgrades to be able to compete with Gen 6 aircraft.


The defense minister is talking about delivering the first production aircraft in 2028. In my view, 2029 seems more realistic. How powerful these first aircraft will actually be is another matter entirely.

It should also be noted that the defense minister is under a great deal of pressure: results are expected of him, and he has to deliver them. He simply cannot afford to make unrealistic promises and lose face later on.

Furthermore, Block 10 and Block 20 are likely to differ only in details. The focus in the coming years will be on ironing out teething problems in the hardware and software, including optimization, the integration of UAV capabilities, and improved stealth coating. These improvements will be implemented step by step and developed in parallel.
Experience has shown that such adjustments take four to five years, as has been seen with other programs. I therefore assume that the aircraft will not reach full operational capability until later, between Block 20 and 30.

We have also discussed Block 30 for 2034/35 with the TF-35000 on several occasions. The engine is essentially based on existing F-110 technologies and will require a total of around nine to ten years of development – so it is not a completely new concept, but rather an evolutionary development, which TEI began working on in the early 2020s.

Everything concerning Block 40 and beyond is still pure speculation at this stage. However, it should be borne in mind that the first Gen 6 aircraft are also expected during this period. A software and hardware update as a mid-life upgrade in this direction is therefore less wishful thinking than a necessary further development in order to keep up with technological advances.
A TF 35000 with improved durability, TVC, and a lower heat signature is not a pipe dream, but a feasible goal in a new revision by 2040+.
Including better AESA radar, e.g., DGaN (GaN on Diamond) combined with multiband X & L, better avionics, and an EW/ECM package, these are all realistic possibilities.

The official schedule is very ambitious, but not entirely unrealistic – provided that testing is consistently parallelized and the development processes are well coordinated.
Realistically, I consider 2029 to be a more likely date for the start of Block 10 series production. Only then will it become clear how well the systems actually work in practice and to what extent the target schedule can be met.

 

[Sanchez]

It should also be noted that the defense minister is under a great deal of pressure: results are expected of him, and he has to deliver them. He simply cannot afford to make unrealistic promises and lose face later on.

Have you met Güler? He's more politician than soldier, very easy to lie, bend the truth, mince words.

 

[GoatsMilk]

People easily forget of course that it wasn't UAE and Egypt that changed its policies, it was Turkey. Rapprochement started with Erdogan government changing its regional politics, not the other way around. Neither Egypt nor UAE changed their sides or leanings re Turkey; they stay as they are.

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Semi related to Kaan and greater defence relations between the two.
"- one on mutual protection of classified info in their defence industries "

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UAE are basically the zionists within the Islamic world. Whatever you say or do with them is relayed directly back to Isreal. But not to get political, any military dealings with these guys is basically showing Isreal your hand, your secrets.