TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Yasar_TR]

So,you believe this(highlighted part) is not a veto right?
I'm sure you know how Japan works,right?
Which ever project they joined finished properly?
And what's the difference between France Germany and Japan in these kinds of projects?

I had edited and added at the bottom the answer to you question in the previous post.

 

[TR_123456]

Also remember UK needs cash to carry on with the project.

Yes but what use is the money when you cant sell as many as you need to cover the costs?
It could take years before the Japanese parliament decides anything if it wants to delay or ''refuse'' sales?
What i am saying is that sales to only Western countries wont cover the projects costs and Japan cannot be trusted in such projects.

 

[UNKONNW]

China is not interested in sharing their tech they could consider selling it but that would create a lot of problems for Egypt with the US.

They might or might not.

The head of the Alexandria Naval Shipyard Company said in a meeting December 2024 that by March 2025, the first Egyptian design for a naval unit will be completed, but he did not mention details about it. Most likely it's going to be a Corvette.





Photos of the military academy(2023), and they are working with Egyptian universities.

 

[AlperTunga]

If FCAS fails, I see 2 projects that could interest Germany - KAAN and AMCA. AMCA looks to offer more to Germany than KAAN, I think. However, the prospect of trying to get anything done in conjunction with India may render cooperation with India a non-starter.

Germany will never join KAAN project. You need to know how they view Türkiye. They think whatever we do is inferior, so they will only buy some munition from us. Crazy even to think about it!

I wish so much that KAAN is successful but we need to realize nothing is proven yet. And even the success of Bayraktar TB2 was of short duration. We have a lot on paper and prototype but no evidence they work in real life. This is how they see it.

 

[Huelague]

Only money, nothing else and if Indiana doesn't have confidence in Russians , people who can actually design and produce the planes and and engines, then why would they risk it with the nation formerly known as Germans?
Germans can only fulfill their usual task and that's is thrown the spanners into someones else business.
Or maybe they can join with Israel, because I am hearing these days that Israel has an ambition to be independent technology from USA???

No.

 

[Huelague]

Germany will never join KAAN project. You need to know how they view Türkiye. They think whatever we do is inferior, so they will only buy some munition from us. Crazy even to think about it!

I wish so much that KAAN is successful but we need to realize nothing is proven yet. And even the success of Bayraktar TB2 was of short duration. We have a lot on paper and prototype but no evidence they work in real life. This is how they see it.

You think that Germany has “Combat Proven” systems? Until yesterday, it was not allow to sell into conflict regions or countries who are at war. Superior behavior or not, they look very closely to our defense industry and systems. They are very aware what we can and what we can not.

 

[mehmed beg]

Well as I said a couple hours ago, seemingly Indian Air Force gave a go ahead for the purchase or whatever of 114 Rafales for 30bn Euros, so if it is the case, they will add 7 or 8bn to Safran for TOT od AMCA engine.
So Germana can do d all in that case. As of British led project, Britain would never let them to join as any serious partner. It took Britain years to persuade these jokers to sell Typhoons to Turkiye and some upgrades and spares to Saudi. Who wants to spend 20 odd billions that some bum from IG Metal can bust their balls?
As of KAANs to Egypt? Who cares about that? Let them buy J35 . Saudis? Joining British led programme? Let them. What they expect to get from that? The production of few parts, maintenance etc
If Turkey manages to make proper engines, I am sure that at least some of invested money can be recouped. In any case Saudi and Egypt are true enemies of Turkiye.

 

[AlperTunga]

You think that Germany has “Combat Proven” systems? Until yesterday, it was not allow to sell into conflict regions or countries who are at war. Superior behavior or not, they look very closely to our defense industry and systems. They are very aware what we can and what we can not.

Germany is the pinnacle of engineering. If they want they can do it. French and british technology are inferior to Germany. Dont forget we are still not capable of building AIP submarines or Leo tanks. Are we capable of building a car like mercedes including its engines?