TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

[Spitfire9]

Dostojevskij has authored many master pieces throughout his life and I'd like to recommend Idiót to some of my fellow forummers.

The struggles we have won't disappear anytime soon or next 20 years. creating an institutionalized infrastructure that maintains and evolves what knowledge we have would require educational institutions contribution to the industry of avionics. And we'd need to order and buy the products to maintain a driving force behind it.

Like France does. As it is the whims of politicians can pretty much screw us over instantly.

Finding partners and producing 4.5 gen would already be a huge success considering how we'd be able to offer a jet to friendly Nations without strings like the west does it.

4G? Who wants to partner on a new 4G project with Gripen E, F-16, Rafale, Eurofighter, F-15EX in production and Tejas Mk2 due to enter production next decade?

What about Spain partnering in some way in KAAN if FCAS is abandoned? Would not be spending on FCAS, so would have funds available.

 

[alfonsvlora]

What about Spain partnering in some way in KAAN if FCAS is abandoned? Would not be spending on FCAS, so would have funds available.

It is not surprising that this could happen, given that the FCAS project has so far been a "pull and don't break"...
Spain is following the development of the KAAN fighter very closely

 

[alfonsvlora]

Would be nice if they can make it before the NATO summit in Ankara.

Military complex in Ankara to host 2026 NATO summit: Report - Türkiye News

Türkiye will host the 2026 NATO summit at a new military complex currently under construction in the capital Ankara, daily Milliyet said on July 2.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

According to this newspaper article a year ago, the NATO summit is scheduled to be held in this building in Ankara.
It's therefore not surprising that the first flight of the (KAAN P1) fighter will take place around the same time.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Military complex in Ankara to host 2026 NATO summit: Report - Türkiye News

Türkiye will host the 2026 NATO summit at a new military complex currently under construction in the capital Ankara, daily Milliyet said on July 2.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

According to this newspaper article a year ago, the NATO summit is scheduled to be held in this building in Ankara.
It's therefore not surprising that the first flight of the (KAAN P1) fighter will take place around the same time.

Unlikely the building isn't finished

 

[fushkee]

KAAN-1 is considered to fly within the following month as per the recent speech and news.

 

[Samba]

KAAN-1 is considered to fly within the following month as per the recent speech and news.

It was December 2025, then posponed to April 2026, now it is in 2026.

I am not optimistic about next month.

 

[Oublious]

First time Kaan main gun tested, a 20mm gatling gun. Tolga Ozbek the one who witnessed it.

 

[Pete Mitchell Maverick]

Military complex in Ankara to host 2026 NATO summit: Report - Türkiye News

Türkiye will host the 2026 NATO summit at a new military complex currently under construction in the capital Ankara, daily Milliyet said on July 2.

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

According to this newspaper article a year ago, the NATO summit is scheduled to be held in this building in Ankara.
It's therefore not surprising that the first flight of the (KAAN P1) fighter will take place around the same time.

No, NATO has also announced that the summit will be held at the Presidential Complex.

The Ayyıldız Campus is not yet ready. I don't expect it to open before the end of the year.

If you look at the news, you'll see that it's from last July.

 

[photon vish]

Hey u all , i want clarification reagrding few things about kaan

And please reply whats most likely scenario

A) max number of air to air missiles kaan can carry, and also in what configuration (like how mnay bvr and wvr)

->i have heard that ut can carry 6(bvr)+4(wvr) is it true ?? Or like j20 only 4/6 bvr and 2 wvr ??

B) whats internal fuel capacity of kaan ?

C) whata tr count of kaan gan aesa radar ?

D) does it have cheek mounted radar ? If yes then whats it tr module count ?

 

[Nutuk]

Hey u all , i want clarification reagrding few things about kaan

And please reply whats most likely scenario

A) max number of air to air missiles kaan can carry, and also in what configuration (like how mnay bvr and wvr)

->i have heard that ut can carry 6(bvr)+4(wvr) is it true ?? Or like j20 only 4/6 bvr and 2 wvr ??

B) whats internal fuel capacity of kaan ?

C) whata tr count of kaan gan aesa radar ?

D) does it have cheek mounted radar ? If yes then whats it tr module count ?

Nobody can really reply in detail, as the plane is still under development and much is kept secret

First of all Kaan is a big heavy plane > 20m length. So it makes sense to compare to aircraft in same weight class to have an idea of what it can theoretically carry

Also the internal bay space is kept secret, we think it can carry 4-6 AA missile internally and more of course externally under the wings

B I do not know

C also there much is secret, some open source mention 2000 TR modules but we do not know if that is correct

D yes it will have side looking radars, but again details are unknown

 

[Yasar_TR]

Hey u all , i want clarification reagrding few things about kaan

And please reply whats most likely scenario

A) max number of air to air missiles kaan can carry, and also in what configuration (like how mnay bvr and wvr)

->i have heard that ut can carry 6(bvr)+4(wvr) is it true ?? Or like j20 only 4/6 bvr and 2 wvr ??

B) whats internal fuel capacity of kaan ?

C) whata tr count of kaan gan aesa radar ?

D) does it have cheek mounted radar ? If yes then whats it tr module count ?

Most of the information you are asking are classified. But…
According to “Turkish Century” site, on each cheek of the plane it will have in excess of 2000 GaN based T/R modules.
However this may be wrong translation of an official’s speech as some officials had mentioned a total of 4000+ Modules for the BURFIS (KAAN’s radar system) which included the cheeks and the nose.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1765647479624642742

It will have a Murad 600 Aesa radar on the nose which is part of the BURFIS.

As far as we can make out there are several versions of the Murad nose radar:

MURAD-100 (Akinci and maybe Hurjet)
MURAD-100A (F-16Özgür and KE)
MURAD-600A (Kaan)

We know that Murad 100 radar has around 1150-1200 GaN based T/R modules. Not much has been disclosed about the T/R module count of Murad-600 though. However with such a big nose it is estimated to be capable of housing a GaN based Aesa radar with over 2000 T/R modules. A further 2000 modules may be distributed to the cheeks.

KAAN has a large IWB. It can accommodate a good number of a2a missiles. 6BVR and 2WVR is a possibility. But again these are classified stuff. We can only speculate.

 

[NEKO]

Does the air refueling method only use the flying boom, or will the probe-and-drogue method also be available in the future?

 

[Pokemonte13]

Does the air refueling method only use the flying boom, or will the probe-and-drogue method also be available in the future?

Only boom method but if there’s going to be a Naval Kaan then it could result in that

 

[Spitfire9]

Nobody can really reply in detail, as the plane is still under development and much is kept secret

First of all Kaan is a big heavy plane > 20m length. So it makes sense to compare to aircraft in same weight class to have an idea of what it can theoretically carry

Also the internal bay space is kept secret, we think it can carry 4-6 AA missile internally and more of course externally under the wings

B I do not know

C also there much is secret, some open source mention 2000 TR modules but we do not know if that is correct

D yes it will have side looking radars, but again details are unknown

Out of curiosity - if you know, please - are trm's getting smaller in size as time goes by, allowing more to be fitted in an aircraft's nose?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Out of curiosity - if you know, please - are trm's getting smaller in size as time goes by, allowing more to be fitted in an aircraft's nose?

Yes, Transmit/Receive Modules (TRMs) are gradually getting smaller and more efficient, as well as being lighter. This is allowing for a greater number of them to be packed into the nose cone of an aircraft. This evolution is due to advancements in semiconductor technology, and usage of Gallium Nitride (GaN).

But by packing more in to a given space, no matter how advanced and efficient they are, the cooling of the modules are becoming more of a problem. Also it is not all plain sailing like with respect to frequency vs wavelength trade offs. As you gain something you also lose something else.

 

[Iskander]

Hey u all , i want clarification reagrding few things about kaan

And please reply whats most likely scenario

A) max number of air to air missiles kaan can carry, and also in what configuration (like how mnay bvr and wvr)

->i have heard that ut can carry 6(bvr)+4(wvr) is it true ?? Or like j20 only 4/6 bvr and 2 wvr ??

B) whats internal fuel capacity of kaan ?

C) whata tr count of kaan gan aesa radar ?

D) does it have cheek mounted radar ? If yes then whats it tr module count ?

Why are you interested in this?

Well, yes, a lot is still being kept under wraps.
Except, perhaps, the name.
KAAN means "King."
KAAN will be completely different from F35 or F22!
KAAN will be the King of Heaven!
I think the Indians were right to be wary of this beforehand

 

[photon vish]

Most of the information you are asking are classified. But…
According to “Turkish Century” site, on each cheek of the plane it will have in excess of 2000 GaN based T/R modules.
However this may be wrong translation of an official’s speech as some officials had mentioned a total of 4000+ Modules for the BURFIS (KAAN’s radar system) which included the cheeks and the nose.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1765647479624642742

It will have a Murad 600 Aesa radar on the nose which is part of the BURFIS.

As far as we can make out there are several versions of the Murad nose radar:

MURAD-100 (Akinci and maybe Hurjet)
MURAD-100A (F-16Özgür and KE)
MURAD-600A (Kaan)

We know that Murad 100 radar has around 1150-1200 GaN based T/R modules.

How over 1100 tr modulr in akinci and hurjet ?? Tejas mk1a with currrnt israeli radar has less than 800 and with uttam gan it will be around 900.

How turkish people able to fit so many or utd wrong info ?? As even rafale has less than 1k tr module

Not much has been disclosed about the T/R module count of Murad-600 though. However with such a big nose it is estimated to be capable of housing a GaN based Aesa radar with over 2000 T/R modules. A further 2000 modules may be distributed to the cheeks.

KAAN has a large IWB. It can accommodate a good number of a2a missiles. 6BVR and 2WVR is a possibility. But again these are classified stuff. We can only speculate.

 

[Huelague]

C also there much is secret, some open source mention 2000 TR modules but we do not know if that is correct

However this may be wrong translation of an official’s speech as some officials had mentioned a total of 4000+ Modules for the BURFIS (KAAN’s radar system) which included the cheeks and the nose.

Any chance to get the number?

 

[Huelague]

Also the internal bay space is kept secret, we think it can carry 4-6 AA missile internally and more of course externally under the wings

KAAN has a large IWB. It can accommodate a good number of a2a missiles. 6BVR and 2WVR is a possibility. But again these are classified stuff. We can only speculate.

This is also interesting

 

[I_Love_F16]

How over 1100 tr modulr in akinci and hurjet ?? Tejas mk1a with currrnt israeli radar has less than 800 and with uttam gan it will be around 900.

How turkish people able to fit so many or utd wrong info ?? As even rafale has less than 1k tr module

Murad F16 AESA

• 1152 TRM GaN module
• 20W each modules with 30W(?)peak power (defenceturkey)
• Liquid cooling

APG-83 (open source info)

• 1020 TRM GaAs modules
• 10W each modules with 10kW peak power
• Liquid cooling

RBE2 AESA (open source info)

• 830 TRM GaAs modules
• 10W each modules with 8kW peak power
• Liquid cooling

According to Hepdert and Cabatli_TR posts #1421, it was the CEO of Aselsan who mentioned the number of modules back in 2023.