TR TF35000 Turbofan Engine

[Merzifonlu]

TEI has finally announced the TF35000 turbofan engine on companys official website. This information is not currently available on the English section of the website, but it will probably be posted there in the future.

I am leaving the link and the translation of what is written.
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https://www.tei.com.tr/urunler/tf35000-turbofan-motoru

The TF35000 Turbofan Engine is being developed under the auspices of the Presidency of Defense Industries for the national military turbofan engine that will produce 35 thousand lbf thrust required by the National Combat Aircraft (KAAN). TF35000 is one of Türkiye's biggest breakthroughs in aviation engines.

TEI; has achieved significant gains in the fields of engine components, advanced material technologies, test infrastructures and production capabilities with its studies in the field of gas turbine engine technologies. TF35000 has been designed with the aim of being Türkiye's domestic and national turbofan engine with the highest thrust power and is being developed to meet the requirements of 5th generation fighter aircraft.

High temperature resistant super alloys, advanced coating and cooling technologies will be used in TF35000. The engine, which will have the features to support KAAN's 5th generation requirements with its unique design, will also provide the required superior performance and durability. The TF35000 will produce the high thrust it will provide, with low fuel consumption and long range missions. An ecosystem is being created that will also support the design, production and testing stages of the engine development process.

Thanks to this engine, our country will gain the competence to develop an original engine with the high technology needed by 5th generation fighter jets.

In addition to the significant support it will provide to our country's strategy to eliminate external dependency in the defense industry, the TF35000 will also solidify Türkiye's strong position in the global aviation market.

 

[Saithan]

This would be a lot more impressive if Their TF6000 and TF10000 was used in unmanned UCAV and was already operating on supersonic levels. Well let's see if the fruits we expect will materialize.

 

[Zafer]

now we know what actually the Kaan engine will look like, its baklava casing pattern is a distinguishing marker​

 

[Merzifonlu]

The interesting thing is that all the engines listed under "Products" on the company's website have the TEI prefix. However, the TF35000 turbofan engine does not have the TEI prefix. My conclusion from this is that TEI is not solely responsible for the development of the TF35000 turbofan engine.

 

[Strong AI]

The interesting thing is that all the engines listed under "Products" on the company's website have the TEI prefix. However, the TF35000 turbofan engine does not have the TEI prefix. My conclusion from this is that TEI is not solely responsible for the development of the TF35000 turbofan engine.

TRMOTOR

 

[mTT]

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now we know what actually the Kaan engine will look like, its baklava casing pattern is a distinguishing marker​

Looks like a Pratt & Whitney F119 engine?

 

[Zafer]

There is no particular similarity, Kaan engine pattern looks denser.​

 

[Turkic]

Looking to the nozzle design, we can say it won't have TVC in the first block right ?

 

[Huelague]

Looking to the nozzle design, we can say it won't have TVC in the first block right ?

It was mentioned that it will has TVC in later versions.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Who cares about thrust vectoring are we Russian or what. More important is the Quality of the engine if its parts need to be replaced more often then the Americans.

 

[Turkic]

Who cares about thrust vectoring are we Russian or what. More important is the Quality of the engine if its parts need to be replaced more often then the Americans.

Chill dude. Just mentioned because we know it's planned for it to have TVC.

 

[begturan]

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now we know what actually the Kaan engine will look like, its baklava casing pattern is a distinguishing marker​

If there is a Baklava pattern, we can be sure that there is an engineer from Antep

Jokes aside, TEI Director Mahmut Akşit is very determined that the TF35000 engine will be completed on time, how can he speak so confidently without even seeing the TF6000 take off??

In order for him to speak so confidently, the TF6000 tests must be very successful and we must have reached the desired point in metallurgy technologies.

I hope everything is going well, making an engine is at least as difficult as making a fighter jet.

 

[Zafer]

If there is a Baklava pattern, we can be sure that there is an engineer from Antep

Jokes aside, TEI Director Mahmut Akşit is very determined that the TF35000 engine will be completed on time, how can he speak so confidently without even seeing the TF6000 take off??

In order for him to speak so confidently, the TF6000 tests must be very successful and we must have reached the desired point in metallurgy technologies.

I hope everything is going well, making an engine is at least as difficult as making a fighter jet.

Donald Trump said in his recent statement "China copied our fighters but they can not copy our engines so quickly".

So making a good fighter jet engine is indeed harder than making a new fighter jet.

 

[Samba]

If there is a Baklava pattern, we can be sure that there is an engineer from Antep

Jokes aside, TEI Director Mahmut Akşit is very determined that the TF35000 engine will be completed on time, how can he speak so confidently without even seeing the TF6000 take off??

In order for him to speak so confidently, the TF6000 tests must be very successful and we must have reached the desired point in metallurgy technologies.

I hope everything is going well, making an engine is at least as difficult as making a fighter jet.

In Teknofest he said TF6000 has concluded significants tests. The reason it is not further mature today is that they shifted the focus to TF10000.

As a military engine, if needed, ı believe, TF6000 can start test flights this year and can be utilised in Kızılelma next year, may we be in a war environment.

Imagine a rally car. It also has an engine similar to the ones in road cars. But they go through extensive maintenance after every use. We dont do that in road cars. That's because the force and load racing engines face are alot bigger than regular ones. This require extensive testing, R&D process compared to regular engines. You can still use them in a rally but there are some caveats.
First you can fail in 5 min. Who knows?
Second, the required maintenance may be extensive after every use, which results in higher cost and time expense.
Third, even if things go smoother than expected, the time span of the engine may not be as long as you expect. This will incur more costs and labor and raw materials.
Besides, at some point, if you have a unfinished yet somehow working product, there may not be strong will adn required human resource to further develop or improve the existing engine.

We are not US nor China. We have maybe one or two try. We have to be successful. This requires some time and dedication. Things can be done in a shorter period of time. But you have to be sure all is fine.

 

[Saithan]

That doesn't make sense at all. Because if you develop something you have to use it to keep that knowhow alive and to further develop other and better things.

If a 6k engine costs a shitload to do maintenance on then we shouldn't attempt to develop 10k, 35k because the strain you put on those engine isn't any less.

And how do you expect to improve lifetime of an engine without testing it to its limits. You wanna wing it ?

I'vw said it before it should be our own engines that hit those milestones of 100k- 1 million flight hours

 

[Huelague]

Who cares about thrust vectoring are we Russian or what. More important is the Quality of the engine if its parts need to be replaced more often then the Americans.

THK cares as a requirement. And TVC is also used in US jets.

 

[Iskander]

The design of the domestic engine TF35000 that will power the National Combat Aircraft KAAN has been revealed.

The design of the domestic turbofan engine TF35000 designed for the National Combat Aircraft KAAN, developed under the coordination of the Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB), was published for the first time.

İşte KAAN'a güç verecek yerli motor

Milli Muharip Uçak KAAN’a güç verecek yerli motor TF35000’in tasarımı ortaya çıktı.

bigpara.hurriyet.com.tr

 

[Strong AI]

The design of the domestic engine TF35000 that will power the National Combat Aircraft KAAN has been revealed.

The design of the domestic turbofan engine TF35000 designed for the National Combat Aircraft KAAN, developed under the coordination of the Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB), was published for the first time.

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İşte KAAN'a güç verecek yerli motor

Milli Muharip Uçak KAAN’a güç verecek yerli motor TF35000’in tasarımı ortaya çıktı.

bigpara.hurriyet.com.tr

Bro we have a new thread about this engine.

https://defencehub.live/threads/tf35000-turbofan-engine.20775/

 

[Pokemonte13]

Bro we have a new thread about this engine.

https://defencehub.live/threads/tf35000-turbofan-engine.20775/

better late then never i guess

 

[Iskander]

Russian military publication Topwar, after 15 months, finally published a video of the first flight of the Turkish KAAN. Interestingly, this was done only after the announcement of its TF-35000 engine.
Article about the engine.
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"Will ensure independence from the capricious West": Türkiye has shown a national engine for the Kaan fighter jet

«Turkish company TEI (TUSAŞ Engine Industries), manufacturer aviation engines, showed the first official image of the TF35000 turbofan power plant, created for the Kaan aircraft, which is positioned as a fifth-generation fighter.
The 35000-pound thrust TF35 is one of Turkey's most significant breakthroughs - says the developer.
As stated in this regard in the Turkish press, the new product of the country's defense industry "challenges existing jet engines in the West and symbolizes the transition to aerospace sovereignty." In terms of thrust, it matches the power of the F119 from Pratt Whitney on the F-22 and exceeds such products as the EJ200 on the Eurofighter Typhoon (26 thousand pounds), the M88 on the Rafale (17-20 thousand pounds) and the F110 modifications used on the F-16 and F-15 (up to 29 thousand pounds). Only the F135 engine on the F-35 with a thrust of 43 thousand in afterburner mode exceeds the TF35000.
According to TEI, the power plant was created using advanced solutions, including high-temperature-resistant superalloys, advanced thermal protection coatings and innovative cooling technologies.
The TF35000 is the result of almost two decades of work by TEI. The company previously produced subsystems and components for engines such as the T700 (used on Turkish Black Hawk helicopters and the T129 ATAK) and developed the TS1400 for domestic rotorcraft.
Currently, the Kaan prototypes and the Turkish Air Force's F-16s undergoing modernization are powered by General Electric's F110 engines. The TF35000 provides similar thrust, but guarantees sovereignty from external supplies dependent on the "capricious US and the West in general."
In a world where air supremacy increasingly depends on who owns the power plant, a national engine will allow the country to take its rightful place on the international stage. - they believe in the Turkish press».
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In general, everything we know is information, but the comments are more interesting. Here are a few of them.

https://en.topwar.ru/264744-obespechit-nezavisimost-ot-kapriznogo-zapada-turcija-pokazala-nacionalnyj-dvigatel-dlja-istrebitelja-kaan.html