News The Wuhan Files : Leaked Docs show China hid data of Coronavirus from the World

[xizhimen]

Yeah yeah western media Made so many lies, unlike a good Commies in China who never let the News itself coming out in the first place!!!

Chinese media also lies, all media are supported by some interest groups and are designed for mind control.

 

[crixus]

Indian media lies to a point that even western media pales to compare.

Its Canadian ..... .. whole world knows about this Chinese Virus which screwed the poors around the globe and 1.5 million dead

 

[xizhimen]

Its Canadian ..... .. whole world knows about this Chinese Virus which screwed the poors around the glose and 1.5 million dead

Then it's wrong, study by different countries show the virus in US came from Europe, India from Europe and middle east, Australia from US... none was from China.

 

[xizhimen]

And virus smaples show the virus existed in multiple locations around the world including Italy, Spain and US months before Wuhan outbreak.

 

[xizhimen]

Whole world is wrong and only China is right ............ you guys have literally fucked up poors all over the world and murdered 1.5 million people using your bio weapon

The virus was found in many locations before Wuhan outbreak and studies showed most cases were spreaded from Europe and US, please respect science, don't judge just by personal emotions.

 

[Sinan]

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[Sinan]

@Jackdaws @xizhimen @adenl and others

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[Nilgiri]

Disclaimer: my opinion. Criticism only on CCP party, not China (country as whole).

Honestly pretty pathetic how CCP expects the world to have exact dynamic like their people...and get this degree of blatant lie triggered when they aren't...and distort whichever cherrypicked soundbite they can in their unique most autistic pravda way .

This is related to how Mao/CCP murdered 30+ million people in China (far more than Hitler and Stalin combined) with such policies as continued confiscation and even exports of grain knowing full well a massive famine was already happening and still have his portrait+mausoleum at tianenmen today (this is a far bigger tragic permanent reflection on tianenmen than the more notorious incident in 1989).

They (CCP and CCP loyalists+lackeys) get similarly triggered when you bring that up for conversation or even rudimetnary analysis.

CCP Has not changed one bit...other than get emboldened to think they can talk the same way to the entire world and get the same reaction as the people actually under their totalitarian control.

An extreme face-saving emotional-driven regime...gaslighting that it is "science and factual". Over time it will be their undoing.

I mean c'mon, anger CCP in whatever way and it accuses you of being the coronavirus source. How childish is that?

 

[Jackdaws]

Disclaimer: my opinion. Criticism only on CCP party, not China (country as whole).

Honestly pretty pathetic how CCP expects the world to have exact dynamic like their people...and get this degree of blatant lie triggered when they aren't...and distort whichever cherrypicked soundbite they can in their unique most autistic pravda way .

This is related to how Mao/CCP murdered 30+ million people in China (far more than Hitler and Stalin combined) with such policies as continued confiscation and even exports of grain knowing full well a massive famine was already happening and still have his portrait+mausoleum at tianenmen today (this is a far bigger tragic permanent reflection on tianenmen than the more notorious incident in 1989).

They (CCP and CCP loyalists+lackeys) get similarly triggered when you bring that up for conversation or even rudimetnary analysis.

CCP Has not changed one bit...other than get emboldened to think they can talk the same way to the entire world and get the same reaction as the people actually under their totalitarian control.

An extreme face-saving emotional-driven regime...gaslighting that it is "science and factual". Over time it will be their undoing.

I mean c'mon, anger CCP in whatever way and it accuses you of being the coronavirus source. How childish is that?

This is a classic Communist playbook since the Soviet days.

Also, while you blame the CCP and not the Chinese people, I think that is not fair.

All societies have dissenters and those who stand vocally against such lies and policies. Doesn't even have to be a majoritarian view. Look at number of people who stand up to Modi in India for example. Or those who stood up to Trump. Or who stood up against the Communist Party in the USSR. Outside of Hong Kong, which has a partly British heritage, the Chinese populace laps up everything the CCP tells them. So they don't get a free pass - they are the biggest enablers of the CCP.

 

[Nilgiri]

This is a classic Communist playbook since the Soviet days.

Also, while you blame the CCP and not the Chinese people, I think that is not fair.

All societies have dissenters and those who stand vocally against such lies and policies. Doesn't even have to be a majoritarian view. Look at number of people who stand up to Modi in India for example. Or those who stood up to Trump. Or who stood up against the Communist Party in the USSR. Outside of Hong Kong, which has a partly British heritage, the Chinese populace laps up everything the CCP tells them. So they don't get a free pass - they are the biggest enablers of the CCP.

Well no point in singling out Trump...there was a huge break in US politics under obama admin for his 2012 election strategy where he went full intersectional + identity politics. If you look at things like how Obama deliberately went after the Tea Party folks (like to level of sicing IRS on them) ..you kind of understand you get Trump specifically because of what Obama did.

But of course the larger point there is resistance to each leadership stands when you have the system that can voice it.

Also with Chinese populace "lapping up" etc, it is more complicated than that. Many are also very transactional oriented with their govt trust me. You might find this post and thread interesting to read:

The Party That Failed - An Insider Breaks With Beijing

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/china/2020-12-04/chinese-communist-party-failed?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=www-foreignaffairs-com.cdn.ampproject.org&utm_campaign=amp_kickers&_gl=1*1wvhvwo*_ga*Z2ZrVmpfNmtrNlVveFVoTllKZk9oSnMzS29leXJCQkJ5QUFnUEdnbEw0T2wzR3RWRFJ5clBfLWhIa2d2OWV2aw When...

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I am not giving the populace at large a complete pass on it (or anything close), neither am I going to condemn them as a monolith, which in all likelihood is somethign the CCP itself desires foreigners to do (makes their argument much easier to carry forward).

Consider this, it takes about 10% of ANY population to dictate terms psychologically to the rest of the 90%, provided that 10% is extreme enough. There is increasing body of work in psychology studying this phenomenon and its application to human society at large, but you can see general trends of it in effect worldwide to different levels already.