TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[wolveray1]

Maybe Erdogan need to reset relation with Macron and offer help to france in Africa..ha2

 

[Heartbang]

Maybe Erdogan need to reset relation with Macron and offer help to france in Africa..ha2

It isn't that simple, and also this isn't the thread for it.

 

[MADDOG]

A contract worth 1.197.381.949,- US Dollars in total was signed between ASELSAN and TAI regarding the modernization of aircraft.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679453310074355713

 

[dBSPL]

A contract worth 1.197.381.949,- US Dollars in total was signed between ASELSAN and TAI regarding the modernization of aircraft.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1679453310074355713

After news, Aselsan shares went through the roof on the stock exchange today. Just when we were talking about 20 billion dollars, it felt like medicine. A total contract size of over 2 billion dollars indicates a large-scale F-16 modernization? If so, I think Murad-AESA for F-16s is now ready.



Edit to dear Mod's edit:
A total of two contracts were signed.
The first contract is worth 2.618.751.172,- TL and 132.078.069,- USD.
The second contract is worth 18.073.289.646,- TL and 1.065.303.880,- USD.
The total amount of the two project contracts is TL 20,692,040,818 and USD 1,197,381,949. At the current exchange rate, this is around 2 billion dollars.


KAP notification : https://www.kap.org.tr/tr/Bildirim/1171374


The reason for I stating the entire contract in dollars is that if these contracts are related to the modernization of fighter jets, which seems to be the case, it will be easier to compare them with similar examples from world once we know the scope of the contract and how many platforms it covers.

 

[Sanchez]

We will probably learn more about it at IDEF.

 

[Ryder]

Why getting all this trouble with US instead just buy euro fighter or rafael.
No more drama and begging with US anymore.
If german decided to reject for buying euro fighter then just buy it from france.

Strings attached and they make you jump through hoops.

 

[TheInsider]

This contract is for the Özgür project and the total value exceeds 2 billion $. This means over a hundred aircraft will be modernized. I think this package includes F-16 block 30s, 40s, and 50s. I think ~150 fighters will be modernized (13,3 million $ per fighter).

 

[Saithan]

I just want to see and hear the modernization succeed and successful test launching of our own missiles ffs. Not much I'm asking for.

 

[Afif]

This contract is for the Özgür project and the total value exceeds 2 billion $. This means over a hundred aircraft will be modernized. I think this package includes F-16 block 30s, 40s, and 50s. I think ~150 fighters will be modernized (13,3 million $ per fighter).

Excellent! @Sanchez looks like they found a way.
And @dBSPL you are right brother, I was wrong.

 

[dBSPL]

Excellent! @Sanchez looks like they found a way.
And @dBSPL you are right brother, I was wrong.

40 F-16 Block 70s with CFTs are targeted for acquisition, which will most likely enable the F 4E 2020Ts to be taken out of active service. In addition, 79 B-70 kits are targeted for procurement from the US.

F-16s in the inventory -for reminding-:
- 29 F-16 Block 50+ with CFTs
- 71 F-16 Block 50M
- 102 F-16 Block 40M
- 36 F-16 Block 30TM

A total of 238 jets. The structural life of Block 30s was increased from 8000 to 12000 hours. Considering that the amounts signed with Aselsan are only for the avionics procurement, there may be a modernization plan that will cover around 130 F-16s at a cost of around 15 million dollars per aircraft (just share of Aselsan).

 

[Quasar]

From the KAP; Söz konusu sözleşmeler kapsamında teslimatlar 2023-2033 yıllarında gerçekleştirilecektir. Within the scope of these contracts, deliveries will be made in 2023-2033

 

[Zafer]

The unanswered question now is "Are we still asking for American upgrade kits or anything F16 at all?".

 

[Bürküt]

Why getting all this trouble with US instead just buy euro fighter or rafael.
No more drama and begging with US anymore.
If german decided to reject for buying euro fighter then just buy it from france.

The US approval is required for Eurofighter too.I know that there are critical components of US origin on the aircraft.

 

[Huelague]

So for the last years SSB claimed that Turkey will have better and more advanced AAM than AIM-120 and AIM-9 , and now Turkey want to buy 600 US made AAM

Either its false news or SSB are lying to us

Future.

 

[Afif]

A record 52 billion lira contract in the Turkish defense industry​

One of the record-breaking contracts of the Turkish defense industry sector was signed between ASELSAN and TAI today. The contract covers aircraft modernization.


Today, ASELSAN and TAI signed two different contracts regarding aircraft modernization. The cost of the first contract was 2,618,751,172 Turkish Liras and 132,078,069 USD; The second contract is 18,073,289,646 Turkish Liras and 1,065,303,880 US Dollars, with a total value of 20,692,040,818 Turkish Liras and 1,197,381,949 US Dollars.


It was not disclosed to which project the two contracts, whose approximate value corresponds to 52 billion Turkish Liras, are related. However, it is emphasized that an aircraft modernization project of this size may be related to the F-16 ÖZGÜR Project, which was delivered for the first time recently . Nevertheless, the exact information is expected to be announced by the Ministry of National Defense and the Presidency of Defense Industries in the future.

ÖZGÜR Project​

The ÖZGÜR Project will also be integrated into the F-16s in the Turkish Air Force inventory. Many critical missiles and pods such as GÖKDOĞAN, BOZDOĞAN, GEZGİN, ATMACA, ÇAKIR, GÖKHAN, ASELPOD, EHPOD and SOM will be used in F-16s.

The avionics modernization project first applied to the F-16 Block 30 warplanes;

• National Mission Computer,
• System Interface Unit,
• Cockpit Upper Front Control Panel,
• Fuel Hydraulic Indicator, Engine Indicator Display,
• Emergency Indicator,
• National Sound Safety Device,
• National Friend - Foe Identification (IFF) System,
• Multimode Receiver,
• Inertial Navigation System,
• Interface Blanking Unit,
• It includes the Center Cockpit Display and the Color Multifunction Display integration.

On the other hand, MURAD AESA Radar, which is under development, is expected to be integrated into aircraft in the future.


@SavunmaSanayiST.com

 

[Afif]

Hellenic F-16 Block 70 equipped with APG-83 and AIM-120 C-8/D VS TurAF F-16 equipped with MURAD and Gokdogan.

It is a fun match up to watch.

 

[dBSPL]

Hellenic F-16 Block 70 equipped with APG-83 and AIM-120 C-8/D VS TurAF F-16 equipped with MURAD and Gokdogan.

It is a fun match up to watch.

The TAF is apparently considering operating 119 (40+79) AN/APG-83s and at least around same numbers of MURAD-AESAs on combatant fleets. So the TAF will have more AN/APG-83s than the Greek Air Force, plus an AESA radar completely inaccessible to the Greeks.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Hellenic F-16 Block 70 equipped with APG-83 and AIM-120 C-8/D VS TurAF F-16 equipped with MURAD and Gokdogan.

It is a fun match up to watch.

As far as I know Greek Airforce does not have the AIM-120/D missiles. It is the C version that both Turkish and Greek airforces have.
Greek airforce Rafale’s however, are to have the MBDA’s game changer Meteor air to air missiles. If any of them have been delivered by MBDA is not clarified yet.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Hellenic F-16 Block 70 equipped with APG-83 and AIM-120 C-8/D VS TurAF F-16 equipped with MURAD and Gokdogan.

It is a fun match up to watch.

Gokdogan is an equivalent to the AIM-120 C version, at least in term of range, so nothing extraordinary here. What I want to see is Gökhan instead. This missile will be a real game changer.

 

[dBSPL]

While the Qatar squadron stationed in Konya can be used to develop tactical training and countermeasure systems and strategies against strategic air force assets in Greek hands: Greek access to the strategic assets that TR will soon be commissioning will not be available to them, nor will they have the full tactical training advantage or, in parallel, in the work of the domestic industry that TR has.