TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Stuka]

The delays occurring in LM‘s F16 production line; Are they due to parts not being produced fast enough or is it because they do not have the manpower/production space for F16 orders? If it is the latter TAI production line - even if it is at a slow speed - will still be a better choice.
I know TAI is gearing up for Hurjet and T-929 production. But surely, after close to 300 F16s being produced under TAI roof, they should easily muster up a small production line for 40 new planes, like they did for the last 30 block 50+, few years back.
Of course the upgrading process of 80 planes to V70 level will be a big task too. But a lot of parts should be or will be available in house due to our preparation for Ozgur conversion.
As per the saying ; “If there is a will there is a way”.

ps to balance your pessimism I am trying to be an optimist!

The Delays are due to Supply Chain issues like the Embassy has put it.

“The F-16 production program is delayed due to supply chain disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic.
This unfavorable delay will affect all countries that are currently participating in this program,” the embassy said in a statement.

Honestly TAI does have Experience but recent License Agreements are unfortunately favoring my pessimistic Stance.

Sikorsky T70 comes to mind. Its been years and we haven't seen it taking of yet.
Even the recent SSB outlook for 2022 didn't even mention it which means we have to wait and see what 2023 brings.

F16 Structural Upgrade takes long as as well 8 F16s in a Year for a Spare Parts replacement that is.
So 5 Years after Contract and 0,6 Planes per Month.

I have a strange feeling that the ones with expertise aren't present but the recent hires without much experience are trying step up.

Honestly about the F16 Request by MoD to LM it might be like all the times before and Turkey just asked to give them Everything and Transfer of Technology and the US is trying to tell them how that is not possible.

 

[Oublious]

F16 upgrade program...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500017056908988425

 

[Manomed]

F16 upgrade program...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500017056908988425

1000 year old state mind we can't even get our stuff because of this retarded goverment

 

[Cenkcnk]

LOL true @

Manomed​

 

[comolokko]

F16 upgrade program...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500017056908988425

turan oguz, hakan kilic, tolga ozbek, hakki alkan

Pay attention to what these names share about defense industry products and methodology. be wary of their ideas and presentations (high potetial for agent of action). only pay attention to the publications of official sources.

 

[Stuka]

Well... Here we go again.

Turkey could acquire around 80 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets​

According to a Turkish official approached by Defense News , the most serious option would be the Eurofighter Typhoon, produced by a consortium bringing together BAE Systems, Airbus and Leonardo.

"Anyway, the Turkish defense official interviewed by Defense News confirmed that the Typhoon can be an "option", with the prospect of an order of around 80 aircraft. “These planes can even be assembled in Turkey, although they have a higher price then,” he said."

La Turquie pourrait acquérir environ 80 avions de combat Eurofighter Typhoon - Zone Militaire

Pour avoir acquis des systèmes de défense aérienne russe S-400 "Triumph" évidemment incompatibles avec ceux de l'Otan, la Turquie fut exclue par

www.opex360.com

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Well... Here we go again.

Turkey could acquire around 80 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets​

According to a Turkish official approached by Defense News , the most serious option would be the Eurofighter Typhoon, produced by a consortium bringing together BAE Systems, Airbus and Leonardo.

"Anyway, the Turkish defense official interviewed by Defense News confirmed that the Typhoon can be an "option", with the prospect of an order of around 80 aircraft. “These planes can even be assembled in Turkey, although they have a higher price then,” he said."

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La Turquie pourrait acquérir environ 80 avions de combat Eurofighter Typhoon - Zone Militaire

Pour avoir acquis des systèmes de défense aérienne russe S-400 "Triumph" évidemment incompatibles avec ceux de l'Otan, la Turquie fut exclue par

www.opex360.com

We need an eye-roll emoji

 

[comolokko]

Well... Here we go again.

Turkey could acquire around 80 Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets​

by Defense News , the most serious option would be the Eurofighter Typhoon, produced by a consortium bringing together BAE Systems, Airbus and Leonardo.

"Anyway, the Turkish defense official interviewed by Defense News confirmed that the Typhoon can be an "option", with the prospect of an order of around 80 aircraft. “These planes can even be assembled in Turkey, although they have a higher price then,” he said."

View attachment 40829

La Turquie pourrait acquérir environ 80 avions de combat Eurofighter Typhoon - Zone Militaire

Pour avoir acquis des systèmes de défense aérienne russe S-400 "Triumph" évidemment incompatibles avec ceux de l'Otan, la Turquie fut exclue par

www.opex360.com

erdogan met with biden yesterday. i think this news is a message to the american congress.

 

[TheInsider]

My bullshit detector goes crazy again.

 

[Brokengineer]

Are we ready to pay 16b euros to enlarge budget deficit for tranche 4's?

 

[Cenkcnk]

I don't think we are gonna buy stop gap planes. We better re-deploy F-5's

 

[Glass🚬]

I don't think we are gonna buy stop gap planes. We better re-deploy F-5's

they still in storage or already scrapped? If they still in storage that might be a good move tbh, they are also cheap to operate til the fighter version of hurjet has been produced.

 

[Cenkcnk]

In fact I was being sarcastic. It would be humiliating ending up like Iran's kovser, qovser whatever

 

[Glass🚬]

In fact I was being sarcastic. It would be humiliating ending up like Iran's kovser, qovser whatever

iran isnt the standard lel

the korean air force is using them as well til their own is ready.

 

[Huelague]

turan oguz, hakan kilic, tolga ozbek, hakki alkan

Pay attention to what these names share about defense industry products and methodology. be wary of their ideas and presentations (high potetial for agent of action). only pay attention to the publications of official sources.

What do you mean exactly?

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1503744904501026827

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1503756921383309330

 

[Lool]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1503744904501026827

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1503756921383309330

Woooow
So Turkey buying the S400s was enough to get them kicked out of the F35 program but Egypt with their numerous S300s and Sukhois are still within the acceptance range for the F15s? Hell WTF! Turkey tried to get those once and was refused due to so-called "strained" relations with the "autocratic" regime of Erdogan but for the US, El-Sisi's govt appears to be at the pinnacle of democracy and human rights

The more I see how the US treats Egypt and India compared to Turkey, I get even more compelled to believe Erdo's words when he used to say that the West's primary goal is to cripple Turkish defense industry by using so-called democracy and human rights as an excuse.

I really hope that Turkey passes the next 5 to 6 years without western cronies in decision-making positions since these years will be really crucial in shaping the future of the TSK for the next century; it either improves or falls from grace

As long as you are good dogs to the West, you will be rewarded. This is the summary of the recent news

 

[Oublious]

Woooow
So Turkey buying the S400s was enough to get them kicked out of the F35 program but Egypt with their numerous S300s and Sukhois are still within the acceptance range for the F15s? Hell WTF! Turkey tried to get those once and was refused due to so-called "strained" relations with the "autocratic" regime of Erdogan but for the US, El-Sisi's govt appears to be at the pinnacle of democracy and human rights

The more I see how the US treats Egypt and India compared to Turkey, I get even more compelled to believe Erdo's words when he used to say that the West's primary goal is to cripple Turkish defense industry by using so-called democracy and human rights as an excuse.

I really hope that Turkey passes the next 5 to 6 years without western cronies in decision-making positions since these years will be really crucial in shaping the future of the TSK for the next century; it either improves or falls from grace

As long as you are good dogs to the West, you will be rewarded. This is the summary of the recent news

As you can seem S400 is nothing but a balloon, if we hadn't S400 would be EEZ isseu with Greece or Syria. Or Russian nuclear deal, or TB2.

But F15 would be downgrade model with no BVR missiles like KSA. Still they should not allowed this deal.

 

[Brokengineer]

Woooow
So Turkey buying the S400s was enough to get them kicked out of the F35 program but Egypt with their numerous S300s and Sukhois are still within the acceptance range for the F15s? Hell WTF! Turkey tried to get those once and was refused due to so-called "strained" relations with the "autocratic" regime of Erdogan but for the US, El-Sisi's govt appears to be at the pinnacle of democracy and human rights

The more I see how the US treats Egypt and India compared to Turkey, I get even more compelled to believe Erdo's words when he used to say that the West's primary goal is to cripple Turkish defense industry by using so-called democracy and human rights as an excuse.

I really hope that Turkey passes the next 5 to 6 years without western cronies in decision-making positions since these years will be really crucial in shaping the future of the TSK for the next century; it either improves or falls from grace

As long as you are good dogs to the West, you will be rewarded. This is the summary of the recent news

France is good example for us to develop our independent defence industry and to say US military bases " fuck off". Because this is what they deserve.