TR Turkish Air Forces|News & Discussion

[OPTIMUS]

And the CMV-22 was to fulfil the role of carrying F135 engines in full configuration but it can't do that as well. Issues happen at procurement all the time. 235s may not be able to carry F110s, but they are worked to death in all matter of duties for the last 40 years.

worked to death???? I have to think how naif you can be like that.

Have you ever seen after crashes that Kayseri airborne brigade jumped off this plane.

Have you ever seen elite troops of the Turkish Army board this plane?

people these planes were no good from the beginning. We had to prove that with human lives.

Ask Turkish Army why they have so many white-painted VIP versions of this aircraft and none use them. With these planes, they can transport a few boxes back and forth, nothing more. Elite soldiers definitely not since 2011.

 

[Sanchez]

Have you ever seen after crashes that Kayseri airborne brigade jumped off this plane.

Have you ever seen elite troops of the Turkish Army board this plane?

Efes 24, international participants and special forces command:

2018, special forces command:

We have more than 50 CN235s in service in air force, navy and the coast guard. They fly day and night in all conditions. If we had retired types after they crashed, we wouldn't have planes left to fly. Aircraft crash, it happens.

Ask Turkish Army why they have so many white-painted VIP versions of this aircraft and none use them. With these planes, they can transport a few boxes back and forth, nothing more. Elite soldiers definitely not since 2011.

We don't have so many. There should be 3 VIP configuration ones, 1 Turkish Stars logistics aircraft and 1 air ambulance apart in the air force. VIP ones are also used pretty heavily.

 

[OPTIMUS]

to my knowledge; at EFES 2024, Turkish special forces participated with CH47 helicopters. the other participants had the Cn235.

 

[Sanchez]

to my knowledge; at EFES 2024, Turkish special forces participated with CH47 helicopters. the other participants had the Cn235.

Here's Erciyes 2023 with commandos and international participants. We of course don't have the data, but a Turkish CN235 is in air every day during the day. These aircraft replaced our C-47s. They are used as work horses and undertake any and all missions. They are not highly capable, but they are very cheap to run.

 

[dBSPL]

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:

Hürjet attack jet configuration: Hürjet Second prototype will make its first flight at the end of this month. P2 is in light attack configuration.

Regarding Hürjet's delivery and export activities, AJT configuration delivery will start in 2026. We have almost reached the contract stage with 3 countries, an announcement may be made soon.

ANKA-3 development activities: Firing tests from the internal weapon station will start in November. We will start the operational tests together with the Turkish Air Force in mid-2025.

KAAN: Our goal to meet the delivery target in 2028 continues. We do not see any problems at the moment.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849414831343853856

 

[dBSPL]

Elephant walk of Turkish air force

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849463435739676743

 

[Ripley]

Elephant walk of Turkish air force

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849463435739676743

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Ah! Who doesn’t like elephant walk

 

[what]

TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu:

Hürjet attack jet configuration: Hürjet Second prototype will make its first flight at the end of this month. P2 is in light attack configuration.

Regarding Hürjet's delivery and export activities, AJT configuration delivery will start in 2026. We have almost reached the contract stage with 3 countries, an announcement may be made soon.

ANKA-3 development activities: Firing tests from the internal weapon station will start in November. We will start the operational tests together with the Turkish Air Force in mid-2025.

KAAN: Our goal to meet the delivery target in 2028 continues. We do not see any problems at the moment.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1849414831343853856

I really hope its true, but I need to see and hear it myself that armed Hürjet will by the end of the month. I dont trust our media. If anyone has the video please share.

 

[dBSPL]

I really hope its true, but I need to see and hear it myself that armed Hürjet will by the end of the month. I dont trust our media. If anyone has the video please share.

IMO, what is meant by configuration is that there may be some avionics and structural improvements for armed version. Frankly, I do not think that weaponry certifications will start in such a short time. But we understand that this prototype will be the aircraft where weapon-munition tests will be conducted.

 

[Yasar_TR]

BAE Systems offers to upgrade Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet for Türkiye with electronic warfare capabilities

BAE Systems offers to upgrade Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet for Türkiye with electronic warfare capabilities

armyrecognition.com

BAE Systems has offered to upgrade the Typhoon aircraft Türkiye is planning to purchase with presumably the latest version of the Aesa radar and EW capabilities.
If the ECRSMk2 radar is agreed upon, this radar system as a whole, not only gives cutting edge Aesa radar performance, but also with its EW capability makes the plane stealthier against enemy radars. This is a hybrid, GaAs/GaN based Aesa radar with, theoretically, unprecedented performance levels. This radar and this plane would give TuAF a definite advantage over most of our adversaries in the region in the interim period.

 

[TR_123456]

BAE Systems has offered to upgrade the Typhoon aircraft Türkiye is planning to purchase with presumably the latest version of the Aesa radar and EW capabilities.

Doesnt the latest version of the EF come with the latest AESA radar and EW capabilities already?
Does this mean we are getting second hand EF's,like tranch 1 or 2?

 

[Huelague]

BAE Systems offers to upgrade Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet for Türkiye with electronic warfare capabilities

BAE Systems offers to upgrade Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jet for Türkiye with electronic warfare capabilities

armyrecognition.com

BAE Systems has offered to upgrade the Typhoon aircraft Türkiye is planning to purchase with presumably the latest version of the Aesa radar and EW capabilities.
If the ECRSMk2 radar is agreed upon, this radar system as a whole, not only gives cutting edge Aesa radar performance, but also with its EW capability makes the plane stealthier against enemy radars. This is a hybrid, GaAs/GaN based Aesa radar with, theoretically, unprecedented performance levels. This radar and this plane would give TuAF a definite advantage over most of our adversaries in the region in the interim period.

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Why not using our own stuffs ?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Doesnt the latest version of the EF come with the latest AESA radar and EW capabilities already?
Does this mean we are getting second hand EF's,like tranch 1 or 2?

There are, as far as I know, three versions of ECRS Aesa radars, if you do not count the mechanical one, the ECRS-M.
Mk0 was the Leonardo-UK developed one (Qatari planes have this).
Then came the Hensoldt developed one which is Mk1. This is the latest one on German Tranche-4 planes being built.
The latest Leonardo UK development is the Mk2. That Aesa radar just completed its final tests.
All ECRS radars can be applied to any typhoon jet. Tranche-1 may need extensive and costly upgrades. So not feasible for the latest radars.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Why not using our own stuffs ?

It needs all new domestically developed avionics and radar etc to be compatible with EF2000. Not feasible.

Edit:
If we were to buy 120 planes. Yes it would be worth it.

 

[Strong AI]

The Turkish Air Force Command has published a recruitment announcement for the 2024 Pilot Class Commissioned Officer Candidates from graduates of universities or higher education institutions with at least four years of education. For detailed information, you can visit https://personeltemin.msb.gov.tr.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1850525934803112092

 

[somegoodusername]

Why not using our own stuffs ?

How many additional billions of dollars you have, and how many extra years you want to wait before procuring these platforms? You can't just change subsystems of a plane.

 

[Huelague]

You can't just change subsystems of a plane.

As we do with Azeri planes?

 

[somegoodusername]

As we do with Azeri planes?

How many years of effort it took? How much did it cost? If you want Europeans to integrate our systems they will give you a large bill, even if they accept it first.

 

[Sanchez]

As we do with Azeri planes?

Su-25 is somewhere between outdated to obsolete. Merhale-1 mod only added UBAS. Merhale-2 mod will include avionics upgrades which is still some years away and Su-25 is an aircraft TAI, Aselsan and Roketsan knows pretty intimately.

Eurofighter is not outdated, in fact it's more modern that anything we have right now. Why pay billions for things to just replace them. We'd be more than happy with some mission computer access and weapons integration if it came to it. Noone will sell us "hulls" to put our own stuff in. And our companies have no idea about the aircraft's inner workings.

 

[Strong AI]

"Pilots receive training against air defense at EHTES.

The Turkish Air Force provides air defense system training to pilots at EHTES (Electronic Warfare Test and Training Area). The system, developed by HAVELSAN, is located in Konya. HAVELSAN has also exported a similar system to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia."