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[Ryder]

Not surprising, every british neighbourhood, every university, every dormitory, every base at least have a small pub like gathering spot.. before dinner after dinner, they socialize. I liked this lifestyle when I was there. A British Aircraft Carrier without a pub is just like a frigate without CIWS.

Alcohol can ruin morale if not controlled properly.

 

[Turan]

Alcohol can ruin morale if not controlled properly.

yes, there are many examples in history where alcohol caused the war to be lost.

 

[Ryder]

yes, there are many examples in history where alcohol caused the war to be lost.

Look up the battle of karanbanses the Habsburg army got drunk they began killing each other

 

[UkroTurk]

That's why Turkish Navy needs rapid delivery machines like V22 osprey

❗️V-22 Osprey delivered cargo to the Ohio-class strategic nuclear submarine USS Georgia (SSGN-729). The barrel on top of the boat is the SEAL Delivery System (SDS), the SEALs sit inside and on a special Seal Delivery Vehicle (SDV) microsubmarine they can go on their missions.

 

[Hexciter]

 

[Combat-Master]

What equipment is that above the wings ?

 

[Nilgiri]

What equipment is that above the wings ?
View attachment 44217

Looks like laser warning receivers....I spot on fuselage too?....maybe part of testing new model out or training etc (if this is rarely seen on Turk AH-1Z).

Something along lines of AVR-2 perhaps:

AN/AVR-2 Laser Warning System

man.fas.org

http://img.bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/files/BEMIL064/upload/2007/01/Goodrich_ANAVR2A_LaserDetectingSet.pdf

Seems aselsan does make such systems too:

LIAS - Laser Warning Receiver System | ASELSAN

LIAS - Laser Warning Receiver System

www.aselsan.com.tr

LIS - LASER WARNING RECEIVER SYSTEM | ASELSAN

LIS - LASER WARNING RECEIVER SYSTEM

www.aselsan.com.tr

 

[UkroTurk]

Having seen the compact ASW boat, it is fair to dream YTKB/ New type patrol boats with light torpedoes.

Since YTKBs are made for detecting submarines , they deserve ORKA's.

 

[UkroTurk]

What would you say ??!!!
Do we need submersible patrolships?

İ think the submersible would be much cheaper than a submarine but with great capability.

İ would love to see Turkish submersibles.
İmagine submersible warship with TRG300 guided rockets.
İt would be poormen ballistic missile submarine.

Would be Real terror in the Aegean and the Mediterranean for reasonable prices.

Rubin Design Bureau Unveils New Version Of Its Submersible Patrol Ship​

Rubin Design Bureau Unveils New Version of its Submersible Patrol Ship - Naval News

Russia's Rubin Design Bureau presents the second version of its Border and Offshore Submersible Sentry (BOSS) patrol ship that combines the benefits of a submarine and a surface patrol ship.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552720903259279362

Pulat/ akkor active system probably next step for patrol boats against MAM-L type ammo

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553002449291681793

80 shot/min any estimate on price. Will it be cheaper than the Italian ? Since it’s slower.

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1553002449291681793

80 shot/min any estimate on price. Will it be cheaper than the Italian ? Since it’s slower.

Somewhere it was mentioned to be significantly cheaper than the Italian version. In fact as we manufactured this gun, Oto Melara reduced it’s price to sell theirs to us. Oto melara’s price was 8.2 million Euros. Then they reduced it to 5.1 million which included training rounds as well. But ours was costing us 4.7 million Euros. Our ministry’s view was ; even if it cost 14.7 million it was to be locally produced. Full stop!
Super rapid Italian version has 120 round per minute firing speed. The Compact version has 85 rounds per minute speed. Ours has 80 rounds per minute.
If with Aselsan’s TAKS fire control system, this gun’s first time hit probability is high enough, does it really matter if you can fire 80 rounds or 120 rounds per minute?
Besides, the local gun will have capability to use more variety of rounds than the Italian one, and can be digitally controlled.
According to below site TAKS can handle even short range close anti air defence duties against high speed planes, helicopters and missiles.

Aselsan 76 mm TAKS

Aselsan 76 mm Milli Deniz Top Atış Kontrol Sistemi TAKS

www.millisavunma.com

MKEK, 76mm Deniz Topunu Ölçekli Model Üzerinden AK-2021/2 Türk Savunma Sanayi Sergisinde Tanıttı

21 Haziran - 02 Temmuz 2021 tarihleri arasında 3’üncü Ana Jet Üs Komutanlığı’nda icra edilen ve Basın Günü Faaliyeti 30 Haziran günü düzenlenen 44’ncü Anadolu Kartalı Eğitimi AK-2021/2 Tatbikatı kapsamında MKEK, SDT ve Havelsan gibi Türk Savunma Sanayi Firmaları da Anadolu Kartalı Eğitim Merkezi...

www.defenceturkey.com

 

[Saithan]

Somewhere it was mentioned to be significantly cheaper than the Italian version. In fact as we manufactured this gun, Oto Melara reduced it’s price to sell theirs to us. Oto melara’s price was 8.2 million Euros. Then they reduced it to 5.1 million which included training rounds as well. But ours was costing us 4.7 million Euros. Our ministry’s view was ; even if it cost 14.7 million it was to be locally produced. Full stop!
Super rapid Italian version has 120 round per minute firing speed. The Compact version has 85 rounds per minute speed. Ours has 80 rounds per minute.
If with Aselsan’s TAKS fire control system, this gun’s first time hit probability is high enough, does it really matter if you can fire 80 rounds or 120 rounds per minute?
Besides, the local gun will have capability to use more variety of rounds than the Italian one, and can be digitally controlled.
According to below site TAKS can handle even short range close anti air defence duties against high speed planes, helicopters and missiles.

Aselsan 76 mm TAKS

Aselsan 76 mm Milli Deniz Top Atış Kontrol Sistemi TAKS

www.millisavunma.com

MKEK, 76mm Deniz Topunu Ölçekli Model Üzerinden AK-2021/2 Türk Savunma Sanayi Sergisinde Tanıttı

21 Haziran - 02 Temmuz 2021 tarihleri arasında 3’üncü Ana Jet Üs Komutanlığı’nda icra edilen ve Basın Günü Faaliyeti 30 Haziran günü düzenlenen 44’ncü Anadolu Kartalı Eğitimi AK-2021/2 Tatbikatı kapsamında MKEK, SDT ve Havelsan gibi Türk Savunma Sanayi Firmaları da Anadolu Kartalı Eğitim Merkezi...

www.defenceturkey.com

Yes It’s probably the super rapid I was thinking off. But the price is quite important. Especially if we’re going to export to other countries.

 

[Anmdt]

Super rapid Italian version has 120 round per minute firing speed. The Compact version has 85 rounds per minute speed. Ours has 80 rounds per minute.
If with Aselsan’s TAKS fire control system, this gun’s first time hit probability is high enough, does it really matter if you can fire 80 rounds or 120 rounds per minute?

TAKS is in use with Italian 76mm as well, but higher fire of rate is necessary in CIWS role or crucial in AD duties.

However, once smart - proximity fuzed 76mm shells are introduced that will render rate of fire obsolote in AD duties. Proximity fuze / smart fuze, or combined together, will do a good job against missiles or AD targets.

It takes a long term for such gun systems to prove itself in the field. It refers to years here at least a period that takes up to first MRO, or second. And hard to export it without being proven that way.

 

[UkroTurk]

Okay we can't afford it:

Let it be like this

 

[Saithan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1575551328838815744

Cevirirsem yanarim

 

[Hexciter]

 

[Combat-Master]

TUBİTAK BİLGEM MÜREN​

 

[Combat-Master]

View attachment 48611

BTW those things above the wing are Aselsan's flare/chaff buckets.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1594752400866295818

An era is coming to a close in the Italian navy. The light aircraft carrier Giuseppe Garibaldi is set to be decommissioned as part of Italy's massive modernization plan. MaviVatan.net has prepared a good article on this subject, you can access it from the relevant link.

I would like to take this opportunity to recall the idea of backing up the TCG Anadolu with a second-hand platform, which has been on the agenda every few years period. In fact, as you know this issue was even brought to the British Parliament during the sale progress of HMS Ocean.

Giuseppe Garibaldi was not as new as Ocean, but it was one of the flagship platforms of the Italian navy. It should be underlined that the Italians have a special place among NATO navies in terms of maintenance and upkeep. There are two more important details about this ship. The first is that with this ship, AV-8B Harrier IIs will also be decommissioned. The second is the ship's mission description and the systems it carries in relation to the doctrinal approach of the Italian navy.

Giuseppe Garibaldi underwent a major modernization in 2003 and is essentially an anti-submarine warfare (ASW) ship. In peacetime, it has the capability to deploy without the need for huge task forces, including in risky areas. If asked for wartime, it is completly another discussion and probably we should forget about all the task force structures that already exist.

What can Giuseppe Garibaldi bring to the Turkish Navy? If it is purchased with Harriers, it will enable the start of combatant(I mean not drones) naval aviation at the lowest cost. Until it reaches the Turkish-type aircraft carrier, it provides power projection and continuity in the relevant task forces by backing up the Anadolu LHD/LAC. Italy and the UK are positively differentiated from other European countries by their maximum alignment with Turkish foreign policy. We can use this ship and the aircraft on it as a school- until they are replaced by indigenous systems and, and we can also use it effectively in times of crisis with relatively trouble-free logistical support.