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[Zafer]

Why on earth security of President's summer house needs a Corvette ?
I quit all brain storms about TN warships.

We are just fucking our brains here.

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"İstanbul Güngören İlçesinin yaklaşık iki katı kadar bir alanı halka kapattı”

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Biz burada Türk Donanması Ege'de Akdeniz'de Yunan'a , Araba karşı savaşta VLSli Hisar O lu korvetleri olsun, ezik kalmasın diye kendi kendimize eziyet ediyoruz. Meğerse koskoca korvetin görevi yazlık bekçiliğiymiş.

That's about how effective Turkish President and Turkey is. You wouldn't need protection for someone else as they do not amount to anything remarkable.

 

[Anmdt]

That's about how effective Turkish President and Turkey is. You wouldn't need protection for someone else as they do not amount to anything remarkable.

Doesn't make any sense at all,
It it not a functional presidential palace which Turkey is governed from, nor a command security center like Pentagon to manage entire armed forces. Moreover he is not being protected by some old ships like Yavuz or Burak Class, or some of the Dogan Class /Yildiz Class but one of the newest and best assets in Turkish Navy.

It is just a summer-holiday house for president which he lays down and drinks dragon fruit smoothie at the beach.

Major surface ships of the Navy is spending longer time at sea, longer pitches ever than the usual schedules because of the shortage of the modern warships, Barbaros class can't go into modernization because of the dire need for the ships at the deployment. Navy personnel is spending longer times at the sea and prone to experience fatigue, but why? So that one ship can purely be assigned to Erdogan, while he is spending money elsewhere but to acquire new ships.

Meanwhile one corvette is purely spared for his holiday house. If anyone defends this i would really doubt whether he likes Turkey a bit, but Erdogan for sure.

I will check satellite images whether this is true, not believeing any words from any political party but i got a sense it is true.

And yes, Ada-Class was there almost for a week but left the Gökova Bay in the 29th July. Probably shows the Corvette is deployed to there merely because of Erdogan's stay in the summer palace.

 

[Profchaos]

That's about how effective Turkish President and Turkey is. You wouldn't need protection for someone else as they do not amount to anything remarkable.

This was the dumbest thing i heard in a while.how can a person defend such action i wonder.i would be embarresed.people like you are the reason for the current state of turkey.

 

[Zafer]

Doesn't make any sense at all,
It it not a functional presidential palace which Turkey is governed from, nor a command security center like Pentagon to manage entire armed forces. Moreover he is not being protected by some old ships like Yavuz or Burak Class, or some of the Dogan Class /Yildiz Class but one of the newest and best assets in Turkish Navy.

It is just a summer-holiday house for president which he lays down and drinks dragon fruit smoothie at the beach.

Major surface ships of the Navy is spending longer time at sea, longer pitches ever than the usual schedules because of the shortage of the modern warships, Barbaros class can't go into modernization because of the dire need for the ships at the deployment. Navy personnel is spending longer times at the sea and prone to experience fatigue, but why? So that one ship can purely be assigned to Erdogan, while he is spending money elsewhere but to acquire new ships.

Meanwhile one corvette is purely spared for his holiday house. If anyone defends this i would really doubt whether he likes Turkey a bit, but Erdogan for sure.

I will check satellite images whether this is true, not believeing any words from any political party but i got a sense it is true.

And yes, Ada-Class was there almost for a week but left the Gökova Bay in the 29th July. Probably shows the Corvette is deployed to there merely because of Erdogan's stay in the summer palace.

Erdoğan is the top asset Turkey has and need to be protected with our top military capabilities.

The region is a also Turkey's southernmost point with borders with hostile Greece and their masters crowding. The presence of military ships around the place is a show of muscles as well.
I would send our top frigate donned with our top capabilities when we have one.

 

[Anmdt]

Erdoğan is the top asset Turkey has and need to be protected with our top military capabilities.

The region is a also Turkey's southernmost point with borders with hostile Greece and their masters crowding. The presence of military ships around the place is a show of muscles as well.
I would send our top frigate donned with our top capabilities when we have one.

Tell me the difference which an Ada-Class + Submarine could provide compared to a B-Class + some boats.

In other words, if we can't put the ship in a mission to defend a bigger portion of the coast, what is point of locating in a small narrow bay which it can not use the sonar or the radar effectively, how could it actually protect Erdoğan?

Talking about the Greek threat ( the point i have expected you to draw the most) the ship then makes more sense at an outpost , at the place it used to be deployed before Erdoğan did request it to be in bay. The ship makes more sense out of the bay standing in somewhere where it can fully use its sonar, radar and weapon systems freely. Also everybody knows Greeks won't launch a massive attack on location of Erdoğan, but rather some insurgents or terrorists, which in this case the frigate or the corvette makes no use.

Moreover , did you also know he did asked to board some security personnel on corvette and disabled the major weapon systems (fore cannon, missiles, main radar) and kept it disabled throughout the stay? you won't read this in news too. Then how did exactly this corvette served the protection purpose except of "displaying" power merely with allowing to operate the RCWS and LPI radar?.

Turkey >>> Erdoğan, if you can't project the earlier, you can not protect the latter. Get an arleigh burke to protect erdoğan, if its mission is set to protect only him the ship will not able to defend him at all if the surrounding is infiltrated.

Area denial is set at frontiers of the sensitive target, not at the whereabouts.

 

[Turko]

I will check satellite images whether this is true, not believeing any words from any political party but i got a sense it is true.

And yes, Ada-Class was there almost for a week but left the Gökova Bay in the 29th July.

People of Marmaris saying that ADA class staying during all summer.

 

[Anmdt]

People of Marmaris saying that ADA class staying during all summer.

I didn't see it in Sat-images at the gökova bay after 29th, normally at least one ship is deployed around marmaris for patrol duties. This one particularly went in the gökova bay to show-off in the okluk palace.

 

[Ecderha]

People of Marmaris saying that ADA class staying during all summer.

People of Marmaris saying.<- it does not have weight/Fact.



I can just say "People of my town saying that I am good boy"

 

[Anmdt]

People of Marmaris saying.<- it does not have weight/Fact.

Satellites?

"America photoshops the satellites so that we can blame Erdogan for something"

 

[Zafer]

Tell me the difference which an Ada-Class + Submarine could provide compared to a B-Class + some boats.

In other words, if we can't put the ship in a mission to defend a bigger portion of the coast, what is point of locating in a small narrow bay which it can not use the sonar or the radar effectively, how could it actually protect Erdoğan?

Talking about the Greek threat ( the point i have expected you to draw the most) the ship then makes more sense at an outpost , at the place it used to be deployed before Erdoğan did request it to be in bay. The ship makes more sense out of the bay standing in somewhere where it can fully use its sonar, radar and weapon systems freely. Also everybody knows Greeks won't launch a massive attack on location of Erdoğan, but rather some insurgents or terrorists, which in this case the frigate or the corvette makes no use.

Moreover , did you also know he did asked to board some security personnel on corvette and disabled the major weapon systems (fore cannon, missiles, main radar) and kept it disabled throughout the stay? you won't read this in news too. Then how did exactly this corvette served the protection purpose except of "displaying" power merely with allowing to operate the RCWS and LPI radar?.

Turkey >>> Erdoğan, if you can't project the earlier, you can not protect the latter. Get an arleigh burke to protect erdoğan, if its mission is set to protect only him the ship will not able to defend him at all if the surrounding is infiltrated.

Area denial is set at frontiers of the sensitive target, not at the whereabouts.

Showing off is the big deterrent.

You don't need to share details about how it is operated.

 

[Anmdt]

Showing off is the big deterrent.

Showing off with no systems on because someone is extremely worried about the military's weapons that even cancelled the 30 August parades?

 

[Zafer]

Showing off with no systems on because someone is extremely worried about the military's weapons that even cancelled the 30 August parades?

Have you seen US making parades?
No you haven't.
Who needs parades when your weapons are fighting and winning and the whole world knows about it.

 

[Anmdt]

Have you seen US making parades?
No you haven't.
Who needs parades when your weapons are fighting and winning and the whole world knows about it.

The point is not the parades but someone is too afraid of military yet still forces a ship meant to protect him to turn off the major weapons.
Anyway, for the parades, if we are going to adapt US style then we better start by showing deterrence when our soldiers are targeted by Russia or kidnapped by ISIS.

 

[Zafer]

The point is not the parades but someone is too afraid of military yet still forces a ship meant to protect him to turn off the major weapons.
Anyway, for the parades, if we are going to adapt US style then we better start by showing deterrence when our soldiers are targeted by Russia or kidnapped by ISIS.

You know that we have increased activity in every relevant theater.

 

[Anmdt]

You know that we have increased activity in every relevant theater.

increased activity but deterrence? Where is that?

 

[Zafer]

increased activity but deterrence? Where is that?

You are unaware of how things would turn out if Turkey were not there in all the theaters;
Libya, Karabagh, Syria, other places, they would be under hostile occupation.
It is Turkey's deterrence holding these places in check.

 

[Anmdt]

You are unaware of how things would turn out if Turkey were not there in all the theaters;
Libya, Karabagh, Syria, other places, they would be under hostile occupation.
It is Turkey's deterrence holding these places in check.

"Deterrence" is not about in which theater our soldiers are fighting, deterrence is the political answer and power which allows you to crush people's - who drop bombs on your soldiers - head. Can we crush their head? pure-politically no, because the people up on government has no deterrence.

 

[Zafer]

"Deterrence" is not about in which theater our soldiers are fighting, deterrence is the political answer and power which allows you to crush people's - who drop bombs on your soldiers - head. Can we crush their head? pure-politically no, because the people up on government has no deterrence.

We crush them by 50 fold.
In a few years we will crush them by a hundred fold.
This is obvious, or the hostiles would have advanced to a takeover.

The reason why we can not exert more political influence is that we have addressed these issues in only a couple decades, give more time and see if they can take a step in our interests at all.

 

[Anmdt]

We crush them by 50 fold.
In a few years we will crush them by a hundred fold.
This is obvious, or the hostiles would have advanced to a takeover.

The reason why we can not exert more political influence is that we have addressed these issues in only a couple decades, give more time and see if they can take a step in our interests at all.

we crush their proxies, not them.
They directly target us,in return we can only target their proxies, thanks to our political deterrence.

 

[Hexciter]

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