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[Ripley]

I disagree with this notion. Taking the command of robotic warfare away from the relevant units into a central command would rather reduce integration than increase it. At the end of the day, unmanned systems are tools that every unit has to learn how to use best in their own context. The military context is what should determine the reason for existence of a command. The UGV that is looking for traps in a cave in North Iraq has little to do with the USV doing MCMW in the Aegean. A central unmanned systems command is like a central firearms command or an internal combustion engines command.

I don’t imagine an operational structure where field commands or an entire theater of operations would have to be stripped off any say and authority at any given campaign.

Modern warfare where such new warfare is conducted, however, clearly takes lot of careful planning to allocate assets efficiently, especially when you’re the attacking side.
In the link Mr. Kasapli gives a figure of 10.000 units of various sizes, roles involved at the Ukraine war on a daily basis where Ukraine forming a such command structure.

I think first and third areas are more military industrial complex concerting effort and sounds less objectionable IMO

 

[Hepdert]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748991669901619238

 

[uçuyorum]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1748991669901619238

Dang, mad man are actually doing an arsenal ship.

 

[Strong AI]

The ASELSAN Torpedo Launching System, integrated for the first time into TCG ISTANBUL, launches torpedoes from ships against underwater targets. The system is also adaptable for use across different platforms.

 

[Sanchez]

Is that a double launcher? Should we understand that İ Class carries 2x2 torpedos instead of the standard 2x3? Design is different than what Mir USV used during its torpedo test.

Any ideas?, @Anmdt

 

[UkroTurk]

Is that a double launcher? Should we understand that İ Class carries 2x2 torpedos instead of the standard 2x3?

Maybe 2x2as TN doesn't like loading a lot weapons?

 

[boredaf]

Is that a double launcher? Should we understand that İ Class carries 2x2 torpedos instead of the standard 2x3?

Any ideas?, @Anmdt

It is modular, so it can be single/double/triple

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/TORPEDO_LAUNCHING_SYSTEM_ENG.pdf

 

[Sanchez]

It is modular, so it can be single/double/triple

https://wwwcdn.aselsan.com/api/file/TORPEDO_LAUNCHING_SYSTEM_ENG.pdf

That opens another can of worms though. Why showcase the twin launcher as standard? We'll probably see it on Istanbul soon and know for certain.

 

[Strong AI]

 

[Strong AI]

MARLIN: The pioneer of the new era in naval warfare.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1751889127484637310

 

[Strong AI]

An agreement amendment within the scope of system supply for Submarine Modernization, has been signed between STM-ASELSAN-HAVELSAN-ASFAT and Presidency of the Republic of Türkiye Defence Industry Agency with ASELSAN's share valuing EUR 30.524.000,-. Within the context of the agreement, the deliveries will be made between the years 2026-2030.

This disclosure is made with respect to the permission of Presidency of The Republic of Türkiye Defence Industry Agency.

KAP

www.kap.org.tr

 

[Sanchez]

An agreement amendment within the scope of system supply for Submarine Modernization, has been signed between STM-ASELSAN-HAVELSAN-ASFAT and Presidency of the Republic of Türkiye Defence Industry Agency with ASELSAN's share valuing EUR 30.524.000,-. Within the context of the agreement, the deliveries will be made between the years 2026-2030.

This disclosure is made with respect to the permission of Presidency of The Republic of Türkiye Defence Industry Agency.

KAP

www.kap.org.tr

I'm guessing for Gür Class? Ideas?

 

[Strong AI]

The rising power in blue waters: National Assault Boat STM-MPAC!

Designed for performing reconnaissance/patrol missions along with surface and air defense warfare in heavy sea conditions, open seas, and coastal areas, our national assault boat possesses operational capabilities at high speeds with powerful and impactful weapon systems!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753042186071838835

 

[uçuyorum]

The rising power in blue waters: National Assault Boat STM-MPAC!

Designed for performing reconnaissance/patrol missions along with surface and air defense warfare in heavy sea conditions, open seas, and coastal areas, our national assault boat possesses operational capabilities at high speeds with powerful and impactful weapon systems!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753042186071838835

Does that mean its chosen as the TTFAC? Because in SSIK already the decision to build FAC decision was made so I don't suppose they are advertising it for nothing?

 

[dBSPL]

The rising power in blue waters: National Assault Boat STM-MPAC!

Designed for performing reconnaissance/patrol missions along with surface and air defense warfare in heavy sea conditions, open seas, and coastal areas, our national assault boat possesses operational capabilities at high speeds with powerful and impactful weapon systems!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753042186071838835

@Anmdt
How feasible is the integration of a tactical level vertical launch system on ships of this class, and how much of a practical advantage can the addition of this capability to the weapon configuration provide within the mission structure of thise missile boats/corvettes?

 

[uçuyorum]

@Anmdt
How feasible is the integration of a tactical level vertical launch system on ships of this class, and how much of a practical advantage can the addition of this capability to the weapon configuration provide within the mission structure of thise missile boats/corvettes?

You don't need vls for everything. You can have bespoke launchers for smaller air defense missiles that you can fit more of. US uses angled ESSM launchers on their carriers as well for instance. VLS are, as I understand, more fore standardization to use a variety of missiles, which is more useful for a larger multi role ship. If it's gonna be the same missile for foreseeable life of platform, why bother?

 

[Sanchez]

US uses angled ESSM launchers on their carriers as well for instance

It's just an updated Mk 29 that used to fire regular Sea Sparrows.

Naval Programs

Wrong. ARMERKOM is responsible for the concept and detailed design of TF-2000, not ASFAT. ARMERKOM designed Milgem and is also designing Milden. What is wrong here? MILGEM Design Project Office, also Part of ARMERKOM / Istanbul Shipyard has completed conceptual and preliminary design phase and...

defencehub.live

 

[uçuyorum]

It's just an updated Mk 29 that used to fire regular Sea Sparrows.

Naval Programs

Wrong. ARMERKOM is responsible for the concept and detailed design of TF-2000, not ASFAT. ARMERKOM designed Milgem and is also designing Milden. What is wrong here? MILGEM Design Project Office, also Part of ARMERKOM / Istanbul Shipyard has completed conceptual and preliminary design phase and...

defencehub.live

Yes but my point is its still a valid option over VLS, even brand new Ford class use it rather than some other solution. And to be fair, Göksur is like a hybrid between this and RAM, like a ram that launches sea sparrows, even has the same conversion from short range A2A missile lineage

 

[Heartbang]

It's just an updated Mk 29 that used to fire regular Sea Sparrows.

Naval Programs

Wrong. ARMERKOM is responsible for the concept and detailed design of TF-2000, not ASFAT. ARMERKOM designed Milgem and is also designing Milden. What is wrong here? MILGEM Design Project Office, also Part of ARMERKOM / Istanbul Shipyard has completed conceptual and preliminary design phase and...

defencehub.live

BAE systems do work on an angled VLS launcher. Just saying.

 

[uçuyorum]

BAE systems do work on an angled VLS launcher. Just saying.
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MPAC is a tiny ship. Even our larger ships are pretty narrow.