TR Turkiye's F-35 Project and Discussions

[Heartbang]

Apparently, F-35's operating system has been leaked to the public.​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703892570412126411

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703988467771015430

 

[moz68k]

I don't think it's that big of a loss, anyone who licences Integrity-178B would be able to access its source code. I mean even we've had a gander (ASELSAN's T-70 mission computer). Pretty satisfying schadenfreude if it's true though!

Edit: Now that I think of it, we probably even saw a bit of F-35's spaghetti code when we almost integrated SOM-J.

 

[Heartbang]

anyone who licences Integrity-178B would be able to access its source code.

That's now how that works. If it was like that then every single Windows licenseholder would have the source code of the Windows operating system.
We'd have gazillion types of Windows versions, similar to Linux distros.

 

[Bogeyman]

I don't think it's that big of a loss, anyone who licences Integrity-178B would be able to access its source code. I mean even we've had a gander (ASELSAN's T-70 mission computer). Pretty satisfying schadenfreude if it's true though!

Edit: Now that I think of it, we probably even saw a bit of F-35's spaghetti code when we almost integrated SOM-J.

Gürcan Okumuş said that they did not have access to the source code for the integration of Som-J. Lockheed Martin was doing the integration.

 

[moz68k]

That's now how that works. If it was like that then every single Windows licenseholder would have the source code of the Windows operating system.
We'd have gazillion types of Windows versions, similar to Linux distros.

There are different types of licences for proprietary software, even Windows has a source code sharing program for eligible organizations. Even if ASELSAN doesn't have full source access to INTEGRITY, they were almost certainly provided extensive documentation on private/public APIs, and a full SDK with sources or, at worst, headers for a large portion of INTEGRITY's libraries. These are required for the extensive integration that ASELSAN had to have done for T-70's mission computer. Furthermore, since, INTEGRITY is an RTOS with a microkernel with no dynamic memory, it is relatively easy to debug just from examining the stack. You can learn a lot of the inner-workings of a software system with just these.

 

[Heartbang]

they were almost certainly provided extensive documentation on private/public APIs, and a full SDK with sources or, at worst, headers for a large portion of INTEGRITY's libraries

Yeah, but those are not source code.

 

[Bogeyman]

What we know about the Marine Corps F-35 crash in South Carolina​

The crash of an F-35B Joint Strike Fighter aircraft in South Carolina over the weekend has raised numerous questions about what prompted the pilot to eject and how the $100 million warplane was able to keep flying pilotless for 60 miles before crashing.

Here’s what is known about the modern warplane and its latest incident:

‘Forced to eject’​

A U.S. Marine Corps pilot was flying a single-seat F-35B fighter jet on Sunday when the pilot experienced a malfunction and was “forced to eject,” a Marine Corps official who was not authorized to speak publicly said on condition of anonymity. The aircraft was only at an altitude of about 1,000 feet (300 meters) and only about a mile (less than 2 kilometers) north of Charleston International Airport, in a populated area that led the pilot to parachute into a residential backyard.

The Marine Corps’ variant of the F-35 is different from the Air Force and Navy versions in that it can take off and land like a helicopter — which allows it to operate on amphibious assault ships. But it’s also different in that it’s the only one of the three variants that has an auto-eject function on its ejection seat, according to seat manufacturer Martin-Baker. That has raised questions as to whether the malfunction the pilot experienced was the seat itself.

On the Air Force and Navy versions, “the pilot has to initiate the ejection,” said Dan Grazier, a former Marine Corps captain and the senior defense policy fellow at the Project on Government Oversight, but the Marine version’s auto-eject is intended to better protect the pilot in case something goes wrong with the aircraft when it’s in hover mode. “Was that function triggered for some reason, and punched the pilot out?” Grazier said. “There’s a lot of unanswered questions.”

Last December, an F-35B that had not yet been delivered to the Marine Corps crashed at Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base Fort Worth in Texas. The jet had been in hover mode over the airfield and began to drop, hit the runway and bounced before the pilot was ejected into the air.

In July 2022, the Air Force temporarily grounded its F-35s over ejection seat concerns. While the Air Force F-35A does not have an auto-eject function, some of the cartridges that initiate the ejection in the warplane were found to have issues, leading to the grounding.

At the time, all F-35 ejection seats, including the Navy and Marine Corps variants, were inspected, and the continue to be looked at during standard maintenance on the aircraft, the F-35 Joint Program Office said in a statement to The Associated Press.

The aircraft kept flying​

Other major questions include how the aircraft continued flying for 60 miles before crashing in a field near Indiantown, South Carolina, and why the pilot bailed out — if the bailout was intentional — of a plane that was able to keep operating for that long, said Mark Cancian, a retired Marine Corps Reserves colonel and senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Security.

“If it flew that far, could (the pilot) have landed it someplace — why punch out where he did?” Cancian asked.

The search for the aircraft lasted more than a day before the debris was ultimately located Monday by a South Carolina law enforcement helicopter.

A Marine Corps official said he could not provide any additional details on why it took so long to find the jet, citing the ongoing investigation. Jeremy Huggins, a spokesperson at Joint Base Charleston, told NBC News that the jet was flying in autopilot mode when the pilot ejected from the aircraft. Once it was located, a Marine Corps team was dispatched to secure the wreckage and a second team, one that conducts aircraft mishap investigations, was sent to the site.

Fighter jet of the future​

The Lockheed Martin-produced F-35 Lightning Joint Strike Fighter is the most advanced fighter jet in the U.S. arsenal, with more than 972 warplanes already built and plans to produce more than 3,500 globally. The Defense Department is counting on it serving for decades as the primary fighter both for the U.S. and a host of allied partners, much like the role the F-16 Flying Falcon was designed to fill decades ago.

The jet “represents so much of the future” of the country’s airpower, Cancian said.

It was almost 22 years ago that Lockheed won the contract to build the F-35. It created three variants — the Air Force’s F-35A, which is the most produced version and the one most often sold to allies; the Marine Corps F-35B, which has the ability to take off and land vertically, and hover like a helicopter; and the Navy’s F-35C, which can land on a carrier.

Lockheed Martin has delivered 190 F-35B variants to the Marine Corps, at a cost of about $100 million each.

The program, however, has faced significant cost overruns and production delays, and its final price tag now tops an estimated $1.7 trillion. While many of the aircraft have been built, the program is already looking at replacing the F-35 engine.

What we know about the Marine Corps F-35 crash in South Carolina

The crash of an F-35B Joint Strike Fighter aircraft in South Carolina over the weekend has raised numerous questions.

www.marinecorpstimes.com

 

[Ecderha]

Apparently, F-35's operating system has been leaked to the public.​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703892570412126411

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703988467771015430

Ian Miles Cheong is known ruZZian paid liаr.
He like to taking information then twisting it or select words out of context and then fabricating news.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705241281704648958

 

[Peter66]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705241281704648958

She makes me angry somehow

 

[Heartbang]

An excellent video on the report of the Government Accountability Office's report on the F-35 project, which outlines dire issues on the maintenance cycles of these aircraft.

 

[Ryder]

An excellent video on the report of the Government Accountability Office's report on the F-35 project, which outlines dire issues on the maintenance cycles of these aircraft.

The F35 is literally like a Alfa Romeo, Ferrari or a Lamborghini.

An endless money pit that will make you poor overtime.

 

[Lool]

An excellent video on the report of the Government Accountability Office's report on the F-35 project, which outlines dire issues on the maintenance cycles of these aircraft.

And that is why I believe that the F35 is a failed project

It can never ever replace the all-rounder cheap F16s.... undoubtedly, the F16s were the best all-rounder aircraft ever made till date

 

[Sanchez]

Except F-16 wasn't made to be an allrounder. It was more akin to a modern, bigger F-5 on its inception, read Lightweight Fighter program. It wasn't even supposed to carry the AMRAAM. Current F-16 B50 is 1/4 heavier than the YF-16.

It was perfected to be that way years down the line, mostly with Israeli actions which Lockheed later followed and implemented. And it got cheaper and cheaper because US built thousands for itself.

 

[B_A]

The F35 is literally like a Alfa Romeo, Ferrari or a Lamborghini.

An endless money pit that will make you poor overtime.

And that is why I believe that the F35 is a failed project

It can never ever replace the all-rounder cheap F16s.... undoubtedly, the F16s were the best all-rounder aircraft ever made till date

Mainly due to the decline of American industry and science(compare to himself)

In 1970s Americans have developed F-14, F-15, F16, F-18 fighter planes; 4 types of top jets, all at same time.

 

[Ryder]

Mainly due to the decline of American industry and science(compare to himself)

In 1970s AMerican can developed F-14,F-15,F16,F-18 4type of top jet at same time.

F35 was made to be the jack of all trades.

F15, F14, F16 and the FA18 became successful because the Americans were ahead in technology also the cold war meant an arms race which means these jets will have to be perfected overtime.

F35 is no doubt a techologically advanced jet that will be perfected overtime. But man it is one expensive Jet and an endless money pit.

F35 best example of how corruption comes from the MIC.

American industry is declining because they are no longer hiring the best minds because of their woke doctrine of affirmative action.

People are getting jobs not for experience or knowledge but to fit quotas like having black people, gays and women in the job you also have the issue of outsourcing.

 

[Afif]

And that is why I believe that the F35 is a failed project

It can never ever replace the all-rounder cheap F16s.... undoubtedly, the F16s were the best all-rounder aircraft ever made till date

F-35 is quite successful when considering the fact, it is essentially 3 platform in one airframe with a global supply chain and 17 operating nation and 20 operating services up to-date.

55% combat readiness is still superior to majority of world air Force's overall combat readiness. And USAF still has the most capable fleet with over 70% combat readiness. @Gary

 

[B_A]

F35 was made to be the jack of all trades.

F15, F14, F16 and the FA18 became successful because the Americans were ahead in technology also the cold war meant an arms race which means these jets will have to be perfected overtime.

F35 is no doubt a techologically advanced jet that will be perfected overtime. But man it is one expensive Jet and an endless money pit.

F35 best example of how corruption comes from the MIC.

American industry is declining because they are no longer hiring the best minds because of their woke doctrine of affirmative action.

People are getting jobs not for experience or knowledge but to fit quotas like having black people, gays and women in the job you also have the issue of outsourcing.

And after the end of cold war,US cut many budget on R＆D,many defence company broken down or became a part of Lockheed Martin and BOEING.

And then they spent billions to invade afganistan and iraq,suddenly they found Chinese was rising and panic to deal with chinese.

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1707037686198866065

Czech Republic approved the purchase of 24 F-35. First Aircraft by 2031 the rest by 2035.

Like I said if one of our neighbors even signs the dotted line to purchase 12-24 F-35 it will be a looooong wait for the first and then for the rest of the fleet. Once again the unnecessary scaremongering by some of our "experts" have been exposed to be nothing but uninformed hot takes. I said then that this neighbor won't get its hands so easily on this plane and once again I was right.

The agreement was supposedly to be signed at the end of last year. Where is it? Their PM was pretty much begging in front of Biden over 16 Months ago in D.C..

Maybe some of our "experts" need to stop believing every single piece of media the other side throws out.

It will happen but the overestimation made by some of our people regarding this neighbors financial means was blown out of water. And when it happens in 2024 or maybe even at the end of this year I was once again expect some of our experts on the internet to start writing doom pieces for a fleet of 24 F-35 which won't arrive until 2035-36 at best. That is in over 10 years btw.

 

[Nilgiri]

American industry is declining because they are no longer hiring the best minds because of their woke doctrine of affirmative action.

That is just small part of the larger issue. The larger issue is the extremely high price of US labour exacerbated by over-unionization and ever increasing corruption within them.....(like most ridiculous levels past what unions were originally reasonably made to protect). Its all exact same way the USSR stagnated and made huge industries noncompetitive by treating labour as the be-all end-all over other means of production (that are all networked together in heavy industry and manufacturing).

I saw personally what Pratt pays in Canada and US to workers here for doing same job as one in China (in our facility there). There is a ridiculous difference.

It originally comes from the corrupt bargain done in US auto industry since the 60s (making that industry more noncompetitive in US w.r.t world "newer" entrants over time) by same party that indulges the woke brigade now for similar reasons. This has spillover labour costs and inflation for other industries as we compete for same labour pool in the end....and is largest reason for outsourcing trends (to cheaper labour that can do the same job, its matter of moving capital and assets to them etc) as well.

Defence, energy, pharma, (anything manufacturing where labour has to compete with assets cost margins) its all affected by this phenomenon....and now these democrat boomer-woke alliance morons are saddling debt on top to preserve the rotten neomarxist neo-GOSPLAN model they have infected the US with in large parts....all to retain some reliable voter base thats in concord with the corrupt elitist politicians that benefit from it.....no matter the cost to everyone else. All now hinges on people realising this con.