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UCAV developments seem to offer new possibilities for the Turkish Navy to deal with hostile fast attack craft (FAC) and corvettes in the littoral waters of the Aegean Sea. In littoral warfare, FACs would approach very close to the Aegean islands as a countermeasure against RF- or IR-guided anti-ship missiles (because most of these missiles cannot distinguish between a ship and an island if the two objects are very close to each other).
Generally, attack helicopters would be employed to engage such FACs because these craft have weak air defence capabilities. However, the integration of UCAVs with naval warfare (particularly littoral warfare) would mean that small surface combatants can be neutralised without entering the stand-off range of their air defence weapons.

UAV, UCAV. USV can cause the end of FACs. Also when we start using IIR seekers, they are going to have problems evading that too. Gurcan Okumus said we are working on better IIR seekers.
 

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A total of 180 TB2 UAVs Are Operational in The Field​

May 26, 2021
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President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan made the remarks towards the defence industry during a speech at his party’s group meeting. Erdoğan stated that 180 Bayraktar TB2s are currently operating in four different countries together with Turkey. “Our goal is to be one of the first countries to acquire a drone controlled entirely by artificial intelligence computers. In this context, we plan to fly our armed unmanned fighter aircraft in 2023.”


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Baykar announced the development of the unmanned fighter jet last year. The aircraft, which is planned to be produced, is expected to have the capacity to carry a ton of ammunition and a cruising speed of 0.8 Mach. MIUS is also expected to be powered by artificial intelligence.


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Baykar DIHA page got updated with new illustration. I am really looking forward to this UAV. Very good features for its size.

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I couldn't find a source for this news. I guess this news fake.
It is in the video posted by Spook at 52:20

However, she say that it is embarrassing for Europe not to be able to develop UAVs while Turkey [being smaller] can do it.

She also say that Turkey have about 140 drones, which makes Turkey more comparable in drone fleet with USA than with Europe which only has a single-digit numbers. Again, it is a embarrassment for Europe to have so few drones while USA, Turkey and Israel have more.

However, Ulrike and Ash (the other european guy) are shallow, naive and euro centric with no consideration for others. She has no understanding on why Turkey is developing drones. She thinks drones were developed due to S400 purchase despite that Haluk said 30 minutes before that this development has been ongoing for more than 20 years due to hidden embargoes.

She really thinks that the S400 purchase is the cause for the bad relation between Turkey and Nato. She has no understanding that S400 is the symptom of USA supported coup attempt, decade long support for PKK in europe, creation of YPG, decade long embargoes, destabilization of the whole ME, 50 year long EU application and thousand other reasons.
 

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I personally think a smaller drone with a designator that can guide in laser guided rockets, and cruise missiles will be very useful and cheaper than TB2 for sure. Weight would be 100-200kg and would be able to be launched from a 8x8 truck on a catapult.

Could be developed for export, and used with TRGL-230.


The American MQM-105 was going to be used with Copperhead guided artillery in the 80s but never entered service.


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I personally think a smaller drone with a designator that can guide in laser guided rockets, and cruise missiles will be very useful and cheaper than TB2 for sure.

Could be developed for export, and used with TRGL-230.


The American MQM-105 was going to be used with Copperhead guided artillery in the 80s but never entered service.


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Small stealth drones will be critical for offensive naval and defensive aerial wars.

The reason is that ships normally need very large bombs/missiles to be disabled. This in turn requires large drones/bombers which are easier to detect by radar. Hence, a small stealth drone may guide larger munitions like the TRLG-230 as you mention from other larger platforms to the ship.

Another area for small and cheap stealth drones are in aerial defense (A2AD) against stealth fighter. Stealth fighter typically use their passive sensors to detect, engage or evade enemy as the active use of radar would render stealth pointless to a decent enemy. A large set of small drones could potentially detect the stealth fighter before they are detected by the larger jet powered stealth fighter. The enemy can't even plan their mission to avoid these drones in the same sense as they can avoid fixed radar station.

I really hope that we develop such 1M$ drones soon just to be able to locate targets. 1000 of such drones and 1000 ground based missiles similar to Iron Dome Tamir missiles (100k$) could protect Turkish air space much better than a few batteries of S400 for a half the cost.
 

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Not just ships, a small artillery units effectiveness will go up many fold if they can increase accuracy to sub 10 meter and make them independently of an air force.
 

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I personally think a smaller drone with a designator that can guide in laser guided rockets, and cruise missiles will be very useful and cheaper than TB2 for sure. Weight would be 100-200kg and would be able to be launched from a 8x8 truck on a catapult.

Could be developed for export, and used with TRGL-230.


The American MQM-105 was going to be used with Copperhead guided artillery in the 80s but never entered service.


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Baykar DIHA can do laser designation. Does not need much infrastructure to operate it and to be cost effective. Small and advanced.
 

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