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The day when double-seat TFX which will takes off with domestic engines by 2030s, will fly with Baykar MIUS and TUSAŞ TISU fighter and bomber drones integrated with Gökhan, Akbaba and SOM missiles in wing formation, we will have dropped an atomic bomb into the hearts of the enemies. After that day, nothing will ever be same again.
Why double-seated TFX though?
Isnt single-seated jets quite better in terms of performance
 

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If the future wars are gonna be fought by drones, why not add a third seat to TFX? :cool: 😂

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Bro, most important info is missing from this infographic you have shared.
First plane is KE but the second one is Gripen-E
It is a comparison of the two
To tell you the truth I don’t understand the significance of the comparison at all.
Gripen-E s a manned 4++ generation full fledged fighter jet. it is not stealth but has a respectably low RCS as 4th gen planes go. It has a F414 engine developing 13000lbf dry, 20000lbf wet thrust. MTOW is 14 tons
KE is is an unmanned stealth jet drone with a Motor Sich engine developing a quarter of Gripen’s thrust with a third of it’s MTOW.
The only similarity is their size.
I would be grateful if you could enlighten me as to why they felt the need to compare the two.
 

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Bro, most important info is missing from this infographic you have shared.
First plane is KE but the second one is Gripen-E
It is a comparison of the two
To tell you the truth I don’t understand the significance of the comparison at all.
Gripen-E s a manned 4++ generation full fledged fighter jet. it is not stealth but has a respectably low RCS as 4th gen planes go. It has a F414 engine developing 13000lbf dry, 20000lbf wet thrust. MTOW is 14 tons
KE is is an unmanned stealth jet drone with a Motor Sich engine developing a quarter of Gripen’s thrust with a third of it’s MTOW.
The only similarity is their size.
I would be grateful if you could enlighten me as to why they felt the need to compare the two.
They might be implying : KE need to be manned real fighter :)


There is a point, it shows how two aircrafts with same dimensions have significantly different weights.

Stealth Material of fuselage decreases significantly weight.

Reduced weight brings another advantage: less powerful engine..

Gripen Empty weight:6800kg
KE empty weight:?? ( I think around 3000kg)
 
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The day when double-seat TFX which will takes off with domestic engines by 2030s, will fly with Baykar MIUS and TUSAŞ TISU fighter and bomber drones integrated with Gökhan, Akbaba and SOM missiles in wing formation, we will have dropped an atomic bomb into the hearts of the enemies. After that day, nothing will ever be same again.
Another detail is that the MMU will also be an optionally manned aircraft. The aircraft will be able to return to base safely and land fully autonomously.
 

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They might be implying : KE need to be manned real fighter :)


There is a point, it shows how two aircrafts with same dimensions have significantly different weights.

Stealth Material of fuselage decreases significantly weight.

Reduced weight brings another advantage: less powerful engine..

Gripen Empty weight:6800kg
KE empty weight:?? ( I think around 3000kg)
Üstadım, the low mass of the KE creates a great advantage for sharp agility. On Twitter, Hayrani Oz, an aeronautical engineering professor at Ohio State, has some calculations about the basic parameters. If KE gets into a dogfight against the Gripen at sea level with a 10,000lb engine, the result will be 99% the same.
 

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Bro, most important info is missing from this infographic you have shared.
First plane is KE but the second one is Gripen-E
It is a comparison of the two
To tell you the truth I don’t understand the significance of the comparison at all.
Gripen-E s a manned 4++ generation full fledged fighter jet. it is not stealth but has a respectably low RCS as 4th gen planes go. It has a F414 engine developing 13000lbf dry, 20000lbf wet thrust. MTOW is 14 tons
KE is is an unmanned stealth jet drone with a Motor Sich engine developing a quarter of Gripen’s thrust with a third of it’s MTOW.
The only similarity is their size.
I would be grateful if you could enlighten me as to why they felt the need to compare the two.
I think it was meant purely as a size comparison for scale.
Like when you put a banana next to an item.
 

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coast-security-command-first-bayraktar-tb2-delivered


The first Bayraktar TB2 was delivered to the Coast Guard Command

The national unmanned aerial vehicle Bayraktar TB2 entered the Coast Guard Command inventory for the first time.​


20 October 2022 15:24

Defense Industry President İsmail Demir announced that 6 Bayraktar TB2s were delivered to the Coast Guard Command.

Demir shared on his social media account, "We continue to equip our security forces with national systems. We delivered 6 Bayraktar TB2 UAVs to our Coast Guard Command with 6 local CATS cameras. Thus, TB2s entered the Coast Guard Command inventory for the first time." gave his words.


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Üstadım, the low mass of the KE creates a great advantage for sharp agility. On Twitter, Hayrani Oz, an aeronautical engineering professor at Ohio State, has some calculations about the basic parameters. If KE gets into a dogfight against the Gripen at sea level with a 10,000lb engine, the result will be 99% the same.
There is a link in my signature to a graphic I made using Hayrani Öz data. Can only be seen in horizantal orientation on mobile.
 
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It cannot interfere with closed source software. I don't think China, which makes hypersonic missiles, is itching to study SDB. Even if you don't pay special attention to turn this forum into the DAYI place on Facebook, have some respect for someone who chooses to buy from you when there is a chance to buy dozens of drones from China.
They already bought drones from china, these are the guys who gave out literally classified Informations about F16 to chinese do you expect me to trust them?
 

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Yay it's actuatin time. The aircraft's actuators are now visible as well. This clears a lot of questions I believe. BAYKAR will use their standard configuration.
 

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Yay it's actuatin time. The aircraft's actuators are now visible as well. This clears a lot of questions I believe. BAYKAR will use their standard configuration.
I think an activator mechanism like that used in canards would be more appropriate. When designed in this way, it not only increases radar visibility, but also increases air resistance, and is unneatly. This activator overlay can be easy and inexpensive to produce. It could also be easier to maintain, but I still don't like this design.
 

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Yay it's actuatin time. The aircraft's actuators are now visible as well. This clears a lot of questions I believe. BAYKAR will use their standard configuration.
They don't look good. They have a square shape and don't look smooth at all. Is it that hard to incorporate an internal rudder actuator?
 

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I think an activator mechanism like that used in canards would be more appropriate. When designed in this way, it not only increases radar visibility, but also increases air resistance, and is unneatly. This activator overlay can be easy and inexpensive to produce. It could also be easier to maintain, but I still don't like this design.
Looks like they spent a bit too much of their time trying to figure out how leading edge extensions work, so they gave a hard pass on the actuators operating other control surfaces it seems LMFAO. The canard mechanisms are also exposed which leads me to believe that MIUS-A will be subsonic AND not a fully fledged stealth aircraft. Only LO with decent characteristics. A technology demonstrator almost. These are relatively minor things that can be worked upon in the future.
 

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