Yeah as I said, stealth is 90% shaping and when you use hardpoints that ruins the stealth quite a bit.Munitions on hardpoints makes the jet visible far more
There were concepts for stealth hardpoint pods though.
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Yeah as I said, stealth is 90% shaping and when you use hardpoints that ruins the stealth quite a bit.Munitions on hardpoints makes the jet visible far more
I think he meant vice-versa.Logically, i would expect hardpoints to be removable or retractable in some ways in final product.
Head of Defense Industry Prof. Dr. Ismail Demir:
"With the implementation of the invisibility factors that we have acquired in ANKA-3 and Militia Combat Aircraft, it will provide significant advantages in terms of radar cross-sectional area and invisibility.
ANKA-3 will also have the opportunity to carry ammunition inside the fuselage, but mostly outside the fuselage due to the flying wing formation."
Any info on the dimensions that you can share?Anka-3 has 2 hardpoints inside the body
I don't have confirmed exact numbers but everyone I know says it is huge and photos deceive people. There will be more Anka-3 prototypes similar to MMU/TF-X.Any info on the dimensions that you can share?
So, in theory, the two hardpoints it has inside could carry big enough missiles for it to achieve SEAD/DEAD missions without compromising its stealth. That's kinda what matters to me the most.I don't have confirmed exact numbers but everyone I know says it is huge and photos deceive people. There will be more Anka-3 prototypes similar to MMU/TF-X.
One would assume so. Not much point in working on a flying wing if it can't. It has to be.So, in theory, the two hardpoints it has inside could carry big enough missiles for it to achieve SEAD/DEAD missions without compromising its stealth. That's kinda what matters to me the most.
Can, in that scenario, each SDB aim at a different target simultaneously?
I think the answer to this question will also be related to the target identification systems of the aircraft. In the video below, the F-35 engages 5 different moving targets at the same time with 5 GPS Aided Inertial/Semi-Active Laser guidance type munitions and the targets are hit with GEOT accuracy.
Yes, it should be able to.Can, in that scenario, each SDB aim at a different target simultaneously?
What I really like to see ANKA-3 do is maritime bombing runs.Maybe I'm wrong, but this type of flying wing drones create a great advantage for the use of bomb types with sophisticated guidance kits on strategic and/or deep targets, rather than for missile types that can already reach long ranges and use surface shapes to navigate at very low altitude.
For example, SDB type munitions, I think, will become the specialty of these types of drones. This will also provide the advantage of simultaneous multiple engagement, of being able to drop more than one munition on the target. Based on rough measurements and the specs released, it appears that the ANKA-3 will be able to carry 8 miniature bombs which have concrete-penetration capabilities over meter. It can drop/fire decoy drones or fuel tanks with pylons before entering risky airspace that can be detected and perform a deep strike in full stealth mode.
edit: For example, in a scenario where 2/4 MALD-like high-speed decoy drones show a wrong tactical picture in the airspace, 2 Anka-3 with carrying 6/12 SDB type munitions coming from the other flight profile can take out an entire air defense battalion in a single sortie, including radars, several TELs and its command and control unit. Or it can render an air base/naval base unusable, including its peripheral radar installations. Waves of long-range sea-skimming cruise missiles, long-range missile-shaped decoys/jammers and penetrating bombers flying in full stealth mode can increase the saturation against adversary force to the point where unbearable point on each air defense layers.
This is ideal environment and ideal targets. Well it is okayish.
Let repeat it in real environment.
- Clouds
- Targets are not in the same place
- Place is jammed or at least partially -> GPS
Then We can say is it ok or not.
This requires the F-35 to be in active combat operations and operator force share records with open sources. As you can see the footage consists of images and data directly from the telemetry systems, and the location of the test is most likely NTTR (Nellis Test and Training Range). In other words, this video from 2018 is a test of for one spesific capability, just one of thousands of controlled test environments that the aircraft entered during its development. What I want to draw attention to here is not the capabilities of the F-35, but the technical feasibility of simultaneous engagement on different targets, including a wide range of guidance kits such as Inertial, SAL, IIR, radar homing, etc., and the main factor here, in my opinion, is the technical infrastructure of the main platform, the aircraft, which detects the targets and release the munitions. Its effectiveness in difficult weather conditions and/or under enemy ED is a another dimension.This is ideal environment and ideal targets. Well it is okayish.
Let repeat it in real environment.
- Clouds
- Targets are not in the same place
- Place is jammed or at least partially -> GPS
Then We can say is it ok or not.
Masterchef Turkiye should show solidarity
If EOTS having any problem with acquiring targets, APG-81 can see through the clouds and dust. ( +Sensor fusion with EOTS )
So, even if GPS is denied, With INS+Data link course correction GBU-53/B can still hit a moving target. ( It has uncooled IIR, mmW and semi active laser seeker for terminal guidance )
I would assume similar capability for Aselsan’s Tolun.
@TheInsider Does it has data link?
Edit, I found it. Tolun has bidirectional data link according to SavunmaSanayiST.com
Only 1 moving target, 4 stationary targets. You can fire 1000 missiles at stationary targets, nothing difficult about that. What's hard is firing at multiple moving targets simultaneously. For that you need guided missiles or multiple laser designators (or a multiplexed laser designator which I don't think exists yet).I think the answer to this question will also be related to the target identification systems of the aircraft. In the video below, the F-35 engages 5 different moving targets at the same time with 5 GPS Aided Inertial/Semi-Active Laser guidance type munitions and the targets are hit with GEOT accuracy.