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Baykar (iirc) signed a deal which included around 500 jet engines, so yeah, around that number *with Ukranian engines* there will (probably) be models with TF-6000 engine.

So in huge numbers
That number includes AKINCI engines too. And as far as I know it's speculation. Contingent on the success of TF-6000, TEI should get the bulk of the orders not Ivchenko-Progress, imo.
 
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Im 100% Sure the MIUS KE design is inspired by a Shark or a Stingray.

Im so confident that Selcuk Bayraktar watched documentaries of marine life and got inspired to make it a design.

Looking at the KE basically a shark.

But sharks are my favourite animals. So beautiful and so perfect in their design.
 

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Im 100% Sure the MIUS KE design is inspired by a Shark or a Stingray.

Im so confident that Selcuk Bayraktar watched documentaries of marine life and got inspired to make it a design.

Looking at the KE basically a shark.

But sharks are my favourite animals. So beautiful and so perfect in their design.
Fish have streamlined body to reduce drag. They're inspiration for the whole aviation industry. Look at airfoil of a wing or a propeller and you would see.
 

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Fish have streamlined body to reduce drag. They're inspiration for the whole aviation industry. Look at airfoil of a wing or a propeller and you would see.

That explains why our designs are inspired by nature and animals.

They give the perfect inspiration in design.
 

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It makes me very proud to even think that we will hopefully be able to see all of the TFX, MIUS, Hürjet and T929 platforms at Teknofest 2023.
 

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Some specs for Kizilelma UCAV;

  • Length; 14.7 meters
  • Wingspan; 10 meters
  • Height; 3.3 meters
  • Cruise/Max Speed: 0.6/0.9 Mach
  • Operational/Max Altitude; 35,000/45,000 feet
  • Operational range: 500nm
  • Useful load: 1,500kg
  • Max Takeoff weight; 6,000kg
  • Propulsion;
    • 1xAI-25TLT
    • 1xAI-322F
    • 2xAI-322F (Confirming twin engine supersonic variant on the way)
  • STOL and Carrier Landing Capability
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Some specs for Kizilelma UCAV;

Length; 14.7 meters
Wingspan; 10 meters
Height; 3.3 meters
Cruise/Max Speed: 0.6/0.9 Mach
Operational/Max Altitude; 35,000/45,000 feet
Operational range: 500nm
Useful load: 1,500kg
Max Takeoff weight; 6,000kg
Propulsion; 1xAI-25TLT, 1xAI-322F or 2xAI-322F (Confirming twin engine supersonic variant on the way)
STOL and Carrier Landing Capability
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What, 2XAI-322f, that's some thrust for the size
 

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AKINCI centreline station with Aselsan developed small diameter bombs. Going to be a UCAV with the most extensive list of weapons integrated for sure!


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Some specs for Kizilelma UCAV;

  • Length; 14.7 meters
  • Wingspan; 10 meters
  • Height; 3.3 meters
  • Cruise/Max Speed: 0.6/0.9 Mach
  • Operational/Max Altitude; 35,000/45,000 feet
  • Operational range: 500nm
  • Useful load: 1,500kg
  • Max Takeoff weight; 6,000kg
  • Propulsion;
    • 1xAI-25TLT
    • 1xAI-322F
    • 2xAI-322F (Confirming twin engine supersonic variant on the way)
  • STOL and Carrier Landing Capability
View attachment 47273


Its current length is 14.7m and is about the size of a modern fighter aircraft. The two engine variant with almost 20000lb of thrust will turn into a system to be feared the most. After necessary sensor and EW modifications in the hull, when the AI-powered autonomous mission capabilities reach maturity, Kizielma will become a real force multiplier.
 

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There is so much time for TF6000. At least 5-6 years.

What if for some reasons Ukraine couldn’t deliver the engines ? Another Altay ? We can’t be 100% sure that everything will happen as expected, especially with Russia. Pretty sure that they will try to prevent the deliveries of the engines.
 

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What if for some reasons Ukraine couldn’t deliver the engines ? Another Altay ? We can’t be 100% sure that everything will happen as expected, especially with Russia. Pretty sure that they will try to prevent the deliveries of the engines.
They have been working on the TF6000 for over two years. Provided the first firing of the engine before end of year and/or we have a prototype by early next year, then another three years for the tests and integration, will make 2026 at the most before serial production.
In the meantime, to fill in the gap, there are a number of engines that can be used, like RR Adour and Honeywell 124/125. There should be no problem to purchase these engines for our own use. Even a local licensed production can be arranged if the quantities would justify it.
Akinci already using 750hp Pratt&Whitney PT6 engine is a good example.,
 

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