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I did not know that the MUMT capability was available for theTB2. Morocco ordered MUMT-2 with its Apaches, so I guess it will allow interoperability between our apache, and tb2 drones.
TB2 has many versions. Depending on the version capabilities can differ. It has a SIGINT version for example nobody talks about that.
 

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Baykar GM Haluk Bayraktar: Our Bayraktar TB2 UAV production capacity is 20 units per month. Our target for 2023 is to produce at least 30 TB2s per month. In 2023, we expect to grow by another 50%.
 

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9. Naval Hurjet
10. Özgür/Hava SOJ/ Meltem III etc.
11. ?

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11. ANKA - NG. I think it is time. I would like to see a new ANKA with alternative engines (PD180-222), modular pod capability etc.a

Got it, thank you. However, the fact that TAI is developing a turbofan UAV in the strategic class is undeniable, isn't it? To be honest, I don't care that much about the first flight date, for me 0.7 Mach cruise speed and 7 tons MTOW information is much more important, so my main question is, should this part be taken into account or is this information also apocryphal?
I woulf say yes, i doubt if he truly got an information from inside.
 

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I can't accept that, because it's like a humpback whale. It should be like X-47B, Neuron, RQ-170 Sentinel. The more handsome a drone or plane is, the better its capabilities are. :D :p

Exceptions do not break rules.;)
You have KE for it.
 

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Kızılelma with all its glory. A final configuration render/ visual prototype is what we are seeing.

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Yes, the aircraft has !18 CONTROL SURFACES!
 
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My only guess is the actuators they use ATM are not strong enough to support them so they divide it


I hope they paint those joints, it needs to be full grey/black imho
Lmao yes that's probably the reason behind it. More powerful actuators could be in the works.

Well it's a prototype, those joints don't need to be painted straight away.
 

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For Türkiye, this numbers should be at least 5 times of mentioned values.
We need at least 5k sungur for manpads only. We need to have more than 1000 çakır, and especially when we consider it will be used from.many platforms ,actually more than 2000 çakır missiles we need
For atmaca missile this number could be around 1000 , but a cost effective and widely used çakır it should be more than 2000.
We see Russia ,and it's depletion of stock just in 5-6 months. It needs Iranian UAVs to cover it's depleted stock of guided missiles.
Exactly. The numbers he cited are laughable. Cakir is supposed to be a cheap alternative to Atmaca. If we need to take out 30 ships in a war we would need 300 of them for saturation. We‘d also need 200 for backup and coastal variant. From cakir we need at least 1000.
 

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Exactly. The numbers he cited are laughable. Cakir is supposed to be a cheap alternative to Atmaca. If we need to take out 30 ships in a war we would need 300 of them for saturation. We‘d also need 200 for backup and coastal variant. From cakir we need at least 1000.

+ You never mention the quantity of what you have or will have to the public. This kind of informations are supposed to be confidential.
 

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From the sub-committees all the way up to the Chief of the General Staff, all inventory planning is determined through many evaluations such as risk factors, troop structures, warfare scenarios etc. But, missile stockpile planning is a delicate balance. Many types of missiles and rockets have a certain shelf life, especially due to their propulsion and fuel systems. Although it sounds good to multiply the production cost, which can easily reach billions of dollars when a few of them come side by side, I don't think there is such a simple solution in terms of resource planning.

We have project plannings that have been waiting for years on a platform basis. For some of them, we are trying to mature enough on a subsystem basis, while for others, we have not even reached that stage yet. The point we have reached in the national defense industry is admirable, but considering that our goal is full independence, there is still a long way to go. One by one, we are trying to produce indigenous equivalents of systems that used to be easily outsourced. All this constitutes the most important item in resource (budget and human resources) planning.

If we think of it as a Ph scale, there is quality at one end of the scale and quantity at the other. My understanding is that the priority now is specialization and skill acquisition. But by the 2030s, the force structures will start to expand at a rate that far exceeds their limits according to a regional factor. If we are dissatisfied with this situation and expect a radical expansion of every factor with the same momentum, then we must first of all talk about and defend the war economy.
 
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According to Erdal Subaşı, who visited the BAYKAR stand, has said the following...

-I spoke to BAYKAR employees
-Kızılelma went to Çorlu, and went through durability tests
-A documentary is being shot, it is expected to be around 40 minutes
-First flight expected in December or January
-No need for a wind tunnel (?)
 

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