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it is not easy as you make it sound. The question is whether the hard points can carry the load. I think only the hard point under the belly of the aircraft is designed for such a load. Then the question is whether or not it would be too clumsy so have under the belly
Why should it be clumsy. Centerpoint has its advantages: It is low center of gravity which inherently means better balance especially when one of the missiles is fired.
 

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Maybe not ALBM but TRG 300 will be nice. Nearly 250 km range it will be a big trouble for enemies.
A rocket cruising at an average speed of 4 mach to a distance of 200 km takes less than 150 seconds to meet the target. Bringing this strike capability to UAVs could open a completely new chapter in air-ground missions. Personally, I think that the Air-launched TRLG-230 could lead us to see many similar systems under 1 ton in the future.
 

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I think this place carries trg-300 very easily

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In this elephant walk footage, the payload (excluding the pylons) is about 1600 kg.
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This shows that AKINCI-B/C can theoretically take off with 7 TRG/IHA-230, may be 8. One or two under fuselage, and others at under wing.
 

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TRG 230 = 215KG
TRG 300 BLOK III =585kg
Akıncı 2 trg230 +2 trg 300 =1600kg
ı tink Akıncı can carry a total payload of 1600 kg with 2x trg 230+2x trg 300.
 

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In this elephant walk footage, the payload (excluding the pylons) is about 1600 kg.
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This shows that AKINCI-B/C can theoretically take off with 7 TRG/IHA-230, may be 8. One or two under fuselage, and others at under wing.
You want to give it some slack to have some agility by not loading it to full capacity.
 

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I was thinking if TRLG 230 can be used in the anti ship role as well eventhough it has 42 kg warhead capcity and small mass it may still have some kinetic power to cause enough damage especially if critical sections of the enemy vessel can be targeted. Not just UAVs but our SİDAs can be used for illumination. Geographic disadvantage that we have in the Agean sea may easly turn into our advantage trough the use of SİDAs for illumination. Then here we have our first relativly cheap supersonic anti ship missile :devilish:

I am not saying this is TRLG 230's primary role but potential is clearly there, it can be used in anti ship role against opportunity targets.
 
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Anyone know how target defined at trg-230 iha. Before flight or at flight (real) time ? Or what's your guess? At Rampage missile depend on the type of aircraft, target defined before flight or flight time. I don't expect to see one way or two way datalink at trg-230 iha. If at flight time target can be selected/ coordinated/ defined, this missile can engage opportunity targets any time.
 

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I was thinking if TRLG 230 can be used in the anti ship role as well eventhough it has 42 kg warhead capcity and small mass it may still have some kinetic power to cause enough damage especially if critical sections of the enemy vessel can be targeted. Not just UAVs but our SİDAs can be used for illumination. Geographic disadvantage that we have in the Agean sea may easly turn into our advantage trough the use of SİDAs for illumination. Then here we have our first relativly cheap supersonic anti ship missile :devilish:

I am not saying this is TRLG 230's primary role but potential is clearly there, it can be used in anti ship role against opportunity targets.
not only the ships every targets on moving up to 70km/hr
 

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Selçuk Bayraktar: We have now locked our gaze beyond the atmosphere and into space. We have established our space-related initiative. Hopefully, we aim to make serious contributions to this adventure of our country in 5-10-15 years.

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Selçuk Bayraktar: Our post KIZILELMA target is space. We have founded 'Fergani'. We started to develop orbital transfer vehicles and satellite technologies.

3000 employees and KIZILELMA ceremony. More:
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KIZILELMA will have a locality rate of well over 90%.
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I think the 2nd prototype KE on the back
 

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ASELSAN General Manager and Chairman of the Board Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün:
  • We are making an integrated electro-optical system for Kızılelma and MMU (TF-X).
  • First AESA radar is ready for delivery.
  • Herd kamikaze 'İDA's are coming.
  • We have produced 35 different radars so far.
  • We are currently developing 29 different radars.
  • We delivered 13 different radars this year.
  • We have 12 different new concept radars.
  • We are studying others such as quantum radar.
  • 80 CATS being delivered to 10 countries in 2022.
  • 20 CATS per month will be produced in 2023 with new generation of quality.
  • Prototypes of next gen will be tested in a few months.
"We are very excited because we will be delivering our first AESA radar to AKINCI soon. It won't even take a month. We are working day and night."

"We've even asked about supply-chain related problems on Gepard and compared it to KORKUT.

Türkiye has full independence on the production of 35mm munitions for these systems, as it has been strongly stated during the interview by the ASELSAN GM Görgün."

'3M' seems to be the motto of Turkish defense industry lately. Much Much More:

Aselsan — Pride of a Nation.
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I was thinking if TRLG 230 can be used in the anti ship role as well eventhough it has 42 kg warhead capcity and small mass it may still have some kinetic power to cause enough damage especially if critical sections of the enemy vessel can be targeted. Not just UAVs but our SİDAs can be used for illumination. Geographic disadvantage that we have in the Agean sea may easly turn into our advantage trough the use of SİDAs for illumination. Then here we have our first relativly cheap supersonic anti ship missile :devilish:
MmWave radar would be much more helpful in that regard. You could also use advanced datalink systems to continuously feed up-to-date GPS coordinates to the missile in flight. The US had something like that cooked up in the 2000's.
 

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