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Then they're doing a shite job. That drone is as Turkish as it gets. Stealing credit isn't very cash money of them.

Thales ain't steeling the credit.

This is from their website.

'The JACKAL drone capability has been designed and developed by experts from UK-based Flyby Technology, with Turkish partners FlyBVLOS Technology and Maxwell Innovations providing design engineering and prototyping expertise, to fill a recently discovered gap in modern combat operations.'
 

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Thales ain't steeling the credit.

This is from their website.

'The JACKAL drone capability has been designed and developed by experts from UK-based Flyby Technology, with Turkish partners FlyBVLOS Technology and Maxwell Innovations providing design engineering and prototyping expertise, to fill a recently discovered gap in modern combat operations.'
And FLYBVLOS states:
As Fly BVLOS Technology, we are proud to present the UCAV version of our indigenous Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Jackal, which we designed and developed in Turkey with our own capital and exported to the UK on April 25, 2022!
That means they're stealing it.
 
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Oh I remember this. Thales claimed this drone was completely developed and manufactured in the UK. Bloody imperialists!
My how the turntables
 

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Russia, displaying captured, intact TB2

I wish these drones had little explosives inside, triggered by a self-destruct command.
It is not an intact TB2. They collected parts from several crashed TB2s and poorly glued them together 😂 these ruskies are hilarious losers

Edit: they also produced replicas of certain parts in workshops and glued them on, since they were missing some parts
 

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Russia, displaying captured, intact TB2

I wish these drones had little explosives inside, triggered by a self-destruct command.
This is an arts and crafts project though. The tail lacks the camera and the structure of the nose is shoddy.
They even failed to properly replicate the decals, ffs!

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The first user of the ALPİN Unmanned Helicopter, developed by Titra, is the Turkish Land Forces.

Turkish Land Forces Command is taking Unmanned Helicopters to its inventory. Delivery of the ALPIN system developed by Titra Technology has started. The system will be used by the Land Forces for cargo transportation.

According to the special news of Tolga Özbek, the number of helicopters, which can carry a load of 200 kilograms in total, is expected to be increased in the Land Forces Command in the coming days. No official statement has been made about the number yet.

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  • Being able to observe a desired point or target steadily by hovering in the air with its "hover" feature and 24/7 surveillance with thermal and night vision cameras.
  • Fully autonomous flight capability
  • Long endurance time
  • High payload carrying capacity
  • ‘Hover’ and ‘pirouette’ capability for target tracking
  • Multiple payload integration possibilities
  • Possibility of use in various concepts: reconnaissance and surveillance missions, power line control, cargo transportation, mapping, emergency base station, response to disaster area, search and rescue operations, agricultural spraying, radio/communication relays, etc.
  • Expandable autopilot modes according to user needs
  • Mode A/C/S transponder system (optional)
  • Communication (air-air/air-ground) systems (optional)
  • Easy transport with light tactical wheeled vehicles
  • Real time image/video transmission (optional)
  • Autonomous target tracking with integrated camera system (optional)
  • GNSS Antijam system integration (optional)
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While watching some ww2 footage I have noticed on some airplane that the landing gear have a cover on it so when it retract inside the cover fit the plane perfectly .

Why we didn't seen any attempt by Baykar to solve that issue on Akinci landing gear ?


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While watching some ww2 footage I have noticed on some airplane that the landing gear have a cover on it so when it retract inside the cover fit the plane perfectly .

Why we didn't seen any attempt by Baykar to solve that issue on Akinci landing gear ?


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Some thoughts.

1. The added weight might have outweighed the lower drag benefits
2. Adding weight to the landing gear might have required larger/heavier closing/opening mechanisms
 

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I found this picture, not really sure if it's the original design or some PS for youtube thumbnail, but it show what I am really after

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Some thoughts.

1. The added weight might have outweighed the lower drag benefits
2. Adding weight to the landing gear might have required larger/heavier closing/opening mechanisms

1- it won't make much of an impact during the landing or taking off because it's on low speed . But putting the cover will help with the drag while airborne and I am 100% sure that it has notable effect on the fuel consumption.

2- You might be right after all I am not an aerospace engineer, But this won't add much to the aircraft maybe around 30kg ?!
 

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While watching some ww2 footage I have noticed on some airplane that the landing gear have a cover on it so when it retract inside the cover fit the plane perfectly .

Why we didn't seen any attempt by Baykar to solve that issue on Akinci landing gear ?


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You could extend the question by asking, why doesn't MQ9 have the cover?

Here's one in ground

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And in midair

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1- it won't make much of an impact during the landing or taking off because it's on low speed . But putting the cover will help with the drag while airborne and I am 100% sure that it has notable effect on the fuel consumption.

2- You might be right after all I am not an aerospace engineer, But this won't add much to the aircraft maybe around 30kg ?!
30kg is huge for a small and cheap drone like TB2. Surveillance drones will generally prefer extra 10-15% airtime (30kg fuel is like 40liters of gasoline) over a few percent more extra speed.
 

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It certainly is. There are many important strategic areas. End-system and branding is only one side of it, but that is not even sole strategic issue. The government had very wrong monetary policies, and these mistakes were equally contaminated by the owners of capital who used monetary development as a tool of wealth, even though the conditions were very favorable during the same period. Many good things have happened. There have been very strategic investments, but we have not been able to realize our true potential.

IMO, Turkiye needs a new and very ambitious roadmap in strategic high-tech areas. In fact, this should be an extension of the medium-term economic program to be announced in September. The conjuncture is incredibly favorable for such an expansion from 2024 to the 2030s, and I hope we can act without delay this time.
We need do everything to make our civilan industry as good as S.KOREAN
 

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30kg is huge for a small and cheap drone like TB2. Surveillance drones will generally prefer extra 10-15% airtime (30kg fuel is like 40liters of gasoline) over a few percent more extra speed.
We are talking Akinci. TB2s landing gear are not retractable
 

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This is AKINCI
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This is TAPAS, which is targeting approximately the same spec range of ANKA-I, let alone AKINCI.
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And this is the last situation it was seen

Design efforts, and test have been ongoing for years, and it is uncertain how long they will continue, while AKINCI gained combat proven status years ago.
 

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Looks like DRDO failed to give enough attention and allocate sufficient resources (human and financial) to this program over the years. Thus, it still stuck.

Although, to be fair they got lot on their plate.
High priority strategic project like ICBM, SLBM, SSBN, SSN, exo-atmosphoric interceptors always suck up the best resources.
 
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This is AKINCI
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This is TAPAS, which is targeting approximately the same spec range of ANKA-I, let alone AKINCI.
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And this is the last situation it was seen

Design efforts, and test have been ongoing for years, and it is uncertain how long they will continue, while AKINCI gained combat proven status years ago.
I spoke about this TAPAS crash on other thread but someone deleted my comment i don't know why
 
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