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You can take out expensive parts from inside a TB2 and use it instead with better success if you need a large drone.

I see Kamikaze Drones which are modified Sport Plane or TB-2 as an expendable Assest. They are cheaper and could be produced in Masses. They can even used as decoys, the Enemy to activate the Air Defence and expend it's AD Missiles.
 

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I see Kamikaze Drones which are modified Sport Plane or TB-2 as an expendable Assest. They are cheaper and could be produced in Masses. They can even used as decoys, the Enemy to activate the Air Defence and expend it's AD Missiles.
in our case Guess Super Şimşek is asigned to decoy and Kamikaze Drone role
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As a part of SIMSEK High Speed Target Drone Project there will be a supersonic drone as well

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We saw the Succes when a ukrainian modified Sport Plane hit a UAV Production plant in Kazan Russia. Would it not mske Sense to modify Troy T-200 as Kamikaze UAV ?


They asked the government for support and complained that no one was interested in them. The Troy T200 never made its first flight. The head of the company, Balci, announced last year that they were leaving Türkiye. Where? was not said. Why didn't the state support them? unclear. It's a pity.
 
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They asked the government for support and complained that no one was interested in them. The Troy T200 never made its first flight. The head of the company, Balci, announced last year that they were leaving Türkiye. Where? was not said. Why didn't the state support them? unclear. It's a pity.
If something requires a big goverment support it is best a government company like TAI make it.
 

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If something requires a big goverment support it is best a government company like TAI make it.

You can not charge TAI for all, they do well for Fighters, Helicopters UCAVS. Sport Plane or 19 Pasenger Regional Airliner we need little or medium Companies they are in charge for it to built a strong Aviation Base.
 

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Prototype #2 4th Flight | High-Altitude System Identification and Performance Test
 

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You can not charge TAI for all, they do well for Fighters, Helicopters UCAVS. Sport Plane or 19 Pasenger Regional Airliner we need little or medium Companies they are in charge for it to built a strong Aviation Base.
Of course you can not employ one company to do everything but what the Uçaksan Company attempted to do requires way more effort that that small company can afford. That's because they wanted to make a training aircraft that requires a rigorous certification process. I have to repeat the saying "If you want to have a small fortune in aviation start with a big one". Even TAI have a project to make training aircraft for civilian airline pilots which we have not heard of in a long time.

Uçaksan should have attempted making Light Sport Aircraft LSA instead.
 

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They asked the government for support and complained that no one was interested in them. The Troy T200 never made its first flight. The head of the company, Balci, announced last year that they were leaving Türkiye. Where? was not said. Why didn't the state support them? unclear. It's a pity.
People struggle to understand that civilian projects and military projects are fundamentally different. Troy T200, a civilian aircraft, should generate revenue, while MMU will not even amortize the project. So, the government is expected to pay for MMU since it is needed for state security, but why should the government pay for Troy T200 when there is no revenue in it? Are we expecting to learn something when TUSAŞ already made Hürkuş, Hürjet, and even MMU flying? What is the benefit of it to the state of Türkiye to have Troy T200?
 

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People struggle to understand that civilian projects and military projects are fundamentally different. Troy T200, a civilian aircraft, should generate revenue, while MMU will not even amortize the project. So, the government is expected to pay for MMU since it is needed for state security, but why should the government pay for Troy T200 when there is no revenue in it? Are we expecting to learn something when TUSAŞ already made Hürkuş, Hürjet, and even MMU flying? What is the benefit of it to the state of Türkiye to have Troy T200?


Troy T-200 can be modified as a Kamikaze Drone like Ukraine did it.

 

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Troy T-200 can be modified as a Kamikaze Drone like Ukraine did it.

In what way is it better than a TB2 while TB2 itself was developed using an LSA as a test plane. It is like undeveloping a TB2 to get an LSA which is far behind TB2 which has an optimized aerodynamics and everything else. An LSA only helps if you already have them in stock and want to trick enemy air defenses into action and raid them with radar homing munition.
 

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If they would use a cheaper engine it's a good option. As this is a kamikaze drone doesn't need an engine that needs to be working for 100s of hours.
There is no short life engine in this class.
 

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maybe the twin-engine KIZILELMA?
There is no telling.
Engine supply is critical. I expect 3 engine types in the TF6000 family, the TF10000 and an additional medium bypass engine. This last engine makes planes fly high.
 
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