TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Zafer]

They asked the government for support and complained that no one was interested in them. The Troy T200 never made its first flight. The head of the company, Balci, announced last year that they were leaving Türkiye. Where? was not said. Why didn't the state support them? unclear. It's a pity.

If something requires a big goverment support it is best a government company like TAI make it.

 

[BaburKhan]

If something requires a big goverment support it is best a government company like TAI make it.

You can not charge TAI for all, they do well for Fighters, Helicopters UCAVS. Sport Plane or 19 Pasenger Regional Airliner we need little or medium Companies they are in charge for it to built a strong Aviation Base.

 

[Oublious]

Prototype #2 4th Flight | High-Altitude System Identification and Performance Test

 

[Zafer]

You can not charge TAI for all, they do well for Fighters, Helicopters UCAVS. Sport Plane or 19 Pasenger Regional Airliner we need little or medium Companies they are in charge for it to built a strong Aviation Base.

Of course you can not employ one company to do everything but what the Uçaksan Company attempted to do requires way more effort that that small company can afford. That's because they wanted to make a training aircraft that requires a rigorous certification process. I have to repeat the saying "If you want to have a small fortune in aviation start with a big one". Even TAI have a project to make training aircraft for civilian airline pilots which we have not heard of in a long time.

Uçaksan should have attempted making Light Sport Aircraft LSA instead.

 

[Hasanrize]

They asked the government for support and complained that no one was interested in them. The Troy T200 never made its first flight. The head of the company, Balci, announced last year that they were leaving Türkiye. Where? was not said. Why didn't the state support them? unclear. It's a pity.

People struggle to understand that civilian projects and military projects are fundamentally different. Troy T200, a civilian aircraft, should generate revenue, while MMU will not even amortize the project. So, the government is expected to pay for MMU since it is needed for state security, but why should the government pay for Troy T200 when there is no revenue in it? Are we expecting to learn something when TUSAŞ already made Hürkuş, Hürjet, and even MMU flying? What is the benefit of it to the state of Türkiye to have Troy T200?

 

[BaburKhan]

People struggle to understand that civilian projects and military projects are fundamentally different. Troy T200, a civilian aircraft, should generate revenue, while MMU will not even amortize the project. So, the government is expected to pay for MMU since it is needed for state security, but why should the government pay for Troy T200 when there is no revenue in it? Are we expecting to learn something when TUSAŞ already made Hürkuş, Hürjet, and even MMU flying? What is the benefit of it to the state of Türkiye to have Troy T200?

Troy T-200 can be modified as a Kamikaze Drone like Ukraine did it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775839153587904889

 

[Zafer]

Troy T-200 can be modified as a Kamikaze Drone like Ukraine did it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775839153587904889

In what way is it better than a TB2 while TB2 itself was developed using an LSA as a test plane. It is like undeveloping a TB2 to get an LSA which is far behind TB2 which has an optimized aerodynamics and everything else. An LSA only helps if you already have them in stock and want to trick enemy air defenses into action and raid them with radar homing munition.

 

[Tornadoss]

Troy T-200 can be modified as a Kamikaze Drone like Ukraine did it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775839153587904889

If they would use a cheaper engine it's a good option. As this is a kamikaze drone doesn't need an engine that needs to be working for 100s of hours.

 

[boredaf]

Troy T-200 can be modified as a Kamikaze Drone like Ukraine did it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1775839153587904889

We don't have to copy everything Ukraine does. Half the staff they do is out of desperation, even if they work.

 

[Zafer]

If they would use a cheaper engine it's a good option. As this is a kamikaze drone doesn't need an engine that needs to be working for 100s of hours.

There is no short life engine in this class.

 

[Rodeo]

What do we have here?

At 0:43

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1776569223562559803

 

[Zafer]

Kizilelma full steam.

 

[Rodeo]

Kizilelma full steam.

maybe the twin-engine KIZILELMA?

 

[Zafer]

maybe the twin-engine KIZILELMA?

There is no telling.
Engine supply is critical. I expect 3 engine types in the TF6000 family, the TF10000 and an additional medium bypass engine. This last engine makes planes fly high.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

What do we have here?

At 0:43

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1776569223562559803

Looks THICK, might just be the angle but almost looks like a cargo drone or something similar to a Global Hawk. Though most likely a twin engine Kızılelma.

 

[Agha Sher]

Looks THICK, might just be the angle but almost looks like a cargo drone or something similar to a Global Hawk. Though most likely a twin engine Kızılelma.

has canards, so yeah most likely a bigger 2xengine KE

 

[Khagan1923]

has canards, so yeah most likely a bigger 2xengine KE

KE already had canards?

 

[Kartal1]

Yusuf Akbaba claims that the simulation area representing the runway of TCG Anadolu was set up and short distance take off and landing tests will be done on land first.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1776662976910491824

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

has canards, so yeah most likely a bigger 2xengine KE

Just noticed that now. The slope near the canards also appears to be much more angled than on the regular KE.

There's also a Sukhoi'esque shape to it. Judging by the size of the front bit, it's probably several meters longer than the regular KE.

My guess is that this is a more devolved version of KE. On top of supersonic speeds, it may also have aerial refueling capabilities. I hope it also has a larger nose in order to accommodate a huge radar.

 

[blackjack]

To be fairly honest appearance wise the Kizelma looks like a miniature F-35, if you slap the same level of RAM on it like the F-35 I am sure it will have a smaller radar signature than the F-35 because of its size for air to ground missions. You can have the KAAN fighter suited more for air-to-air roles letting the wingman UAVs do the air to ground roles for you.