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I love it when random people on the Internet know better than the engineers actually working on a project

They should first have the confidence to approach things and ask questions before they make fun of your knowledge to others.

Firstly, they are probably wondering how many more launch samples they want to see? Or?

Secondly, I criticized Anka's wing construction. Such sayings have also been used here. Consequently, Anka's wing construction was changed along with the design.

TB3 problems to see and suspect are:

*Wing construction
*Unnecessary applications, which also has a negative effect on weight
*unsuitable and weak gear construction

Operating at sea is a completely different world, which invalidates all engineering knowledge on land. Has TB3 been left on the flight deck at ANADOLU for a month? without doing anything. Just like that: To collect data and remember reactions of material? NO. As you know, ANADOLU is very actively used on the open sea. no securely parked TB3 was to be seen on deck.

Has BAYKAR once disclosed test data :

*How much fuel was the test object loaded.
*How many meters of run-up did TB3 need to take off from the ramp?
* Why is a naked TB3 always used for the tests?
*How many meters does it take for the test object to come to a stop when landing?
*What is the approach speed?
*Why are test videos always cut at the points where we can use some computer-supported measurement applications? And ...and...and..

What does BAYKAR not want to show us, what does not want to tell us? Don't they want to tell us that TB3 from ANADOLU is a failed project.

Yes, with this design, ANADOLU-based TB3 is a failed project.
 
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They should first have the confidence to approach things and ask questions before they make fun of your knowledge to others.

Firstly, they are probably wondering how many more launch samples they want to see? Or?

Secondly, I criticized Anka's wing construction. Such sayings have also been used here. Consequently, Anka's wing construction was changed along with the design.

TB3 problems to see and suspect are:

*Wing construction
*Unnecessary applications, which also has a negative effect on weight
*unsuitable and weak gear construction

Operating at sea is a completely different world, which invalidates all engineering knowledge on land. Has TB3 been left on the flight deck at ANADOLU for a month? without doing anything. Just like that: To collect data and remember reactions of material? NO. As you know, ANADOLU is very actively used on the open sea. no securely parked TB3 was to be seen on deck.

Has BAYKAR once disclosed test data :

*How much fuel was the test object loaded.
*How many meters of run-up did TB3 need to take off from the ramp?
* Why is a naked TB3 always used for the tests?
*How many meters does it take for the test object to come to a stop when landing?
*What is the approach speed?
*Why are test videos always cut at the points where we can use some computer-supported measurement applications? And ...and...and..

What does BAYKAR not want to show us, what does not want to tell us? Don't they want to tell us that TB3 from ANADOLU is a failed project.

Yes, with this design, ANADOLU-based TB3 is a failed project.
No company publish such information.
 

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They should first have the confidence to approach things and ask questions before they make fun of your knowledge to others.

Firstly, they are probably wondering how many more launch samples they want to see? Or?

Secondly, I criticized Anka's wing construction. Such sayings have also been used here. Consequently, Anka's wing construction was changed along with the design.

TB3 problems to see and suspect are:

*Wing construction
*Unnecessary applications, which also has a negative effect on weight
*unsuitable and weak gear construction

Operating at sea is a completely different world, which invalidates all engineering knowledge on land. Has TB3 been left on the flight deck at ANADOLU for a month? without doing anything. Just like that: To collect data and remember reactions of material? NO. As you know, ANADOLU is very actively used on the open sea. no securely parked TB3 was to be seen on deck.

Has BAYKAR once disclosed test data :

*How much fuel was the test object loaded.
*How many meters of run-up did TB3 need to take off from the ramp?
* Why is a naked TB3 always used for the tests?
*How many meters does it take for the test object to come to a stop when landing?
*What is the approach speed?
*Why are test videos always cut at the points where we can use some computer-supported measurement applications? And ...and...and..

What does BAYKAR not want to show us, what does not want to tell us? Don't they want to tell us that TB3 from ANADOLU is a failed project.

Yes, with this design, ANADOLU-based TB3 is a failed project.


lol

why should baykar give test data away?
 

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No, they are already doing to be able to sell them. Such data is a strong selling point.
They are openly accessible, not concealed
Like how, there are hundreds of developers but they don't publish. You don't even get to know what weight they take off with. Please provide sources if you know otherwise.
 

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

General Atomics Mojave
No useful data in your post actually
 

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

General Atomics Mojave
They do not publish during development, why should they.
 

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Unfortunately i have bad news for some members here.

Selcuk Bayraktar:

"[...] We will start ship trials of TB3 soon."

 

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TB3 will never be able to take off from the ANADOLU with these wings, let alone with it loaded. Even if ANADOLU is picking up speed against the wind. to make it easier to take off.

My skepticism is confirmed at every test start from this ramp. Also strange that TB3 has anti-ice applications on the wing, which I think is unnecessary for this class.

When leaving the ramp, the TB3's descent can still be observed.
Total BS.
 

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Unfortunately i have bad news for some members here.

Selcuk Bayraktar:

"[...] We will start ship trials of TB3 soon."

that's good news, although this "soon" is relative time delivery. I hope in the test with the ANADOLU they would see where they made mistakes.
 

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I can already tell that you won't even spend a night on the open sea on deck.
Irrelevant and ad hominem. TB3 will EASILY take off from the deck of TCG Anadolu with a full combat load of 1450kg, the land variant of TB3 has an MTOW of 1600kg.
 
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If TB-3 can take-off from and land to Anadolu, navy will take it. If it can't navy won't. TB-3 is funded by Baykar's own pocket. More important thing is Anadolu is sailing naked. We don't have any helicopters on-board. I think naval helicopters are more important than flying a drone, currently.
 

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

General Atomics Mojave


That not engineering data, you should go search a book what Selcuk Bayraktar have shared. It was 3 years ago, that was a book they are basing ther project on.
 
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If TB-3 can take-off from and land to Anadolu, navy will take it. If it can't navy won't. TB-3 is funded by Baykar's own pocket. More important thing is Anadolu is sailing naked. We don't have any helicopters on-board. I think naval helicopters are more important than flying a drone, currently.
9 Bell AH-1 SuperCobra of Turkish army trasfered to Navy Aslo during navy drills there were blackhawks and cougars in Anadolu
 
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