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TB3 will never be able to take off from the ANADOLU with these wings, let alone with it loaded. Even if ANADOLU is picking up speed against the wind. to make it easier to take off.

My skepticism is confirmed at every test start from this ramp. Also strange that TB3 has anti-ice applications on the wing, which I think is unnecessary for this class.

When leaving the ramp, the TB3's descent can still be observed.
 

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TB3 will never be able to take off from the ANADOLU with these wings, let alone with it loaded. Even if ANADOLU is picking up speed against the wind. to make it easier to take off.

My skepticism is confirmed at every test start from this ramp. Also strange that TB3 has anti-ice applications on the wing, which I think is unnecessary for this class.

When leaving the ramp, the TB3's descent can still be observed.
I love it when random people on the Internet know better than the engineers actually working on a project.
 

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TB3 will never be able to take off from the ANADOLU with these wings, let alone with it loaded. Even if ANADOLU is picking up speed against the wind. to make it easier to take off.

My skepticism is confirmed at every test start from this ramp. Also strange that TB3 has anti-ice applications on the wing, which I think is unnecessary for this class.

When leaving the ramp, the TB3's descent can still be observed.
Taking off easy part. Even f18 hornets descend after leaving the carrier. That's not the issue. Landing is.
 

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There must be ways to facilitate landing which also come with some penalties. One that quickly comes to mind is to employ larger wheels with bigger radius. Another one is to use double wheels with twice the brake surface. This way you can increase braking power but you increase the system weight too. There must be a sweet spot between all the trade offs. All this effort would be in order to decrease the landing distance, to be clear.
 

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I love it when random people on the Internet know better than the engineers actually working on a project

They should first have the confidence to approach things and ask questions before they make fun of your knowledge to others.

Firstly, they are probably wondering how many more launch samples they want to see? Or?

Secondly, I criticized Anka's wing construction. Such sayings have also been used here. Consequently, Anka's wing construction was changed along with the design.

TB3 problems to see and suspect are:

*Wing construction
*Unnecessary applications, which also has a negative effect on weight
*unsuitable and weak gear construction

Operating at sea is a completely different world, which invalidates all engineering knowledge on land. Has TB3 been left on the flight deck at ANADOLU for a month? without doing anything. Just like that: To collect data and remember reactions of material? NO. As you know, ANADOLU is very actively used on the open sea. no securely parked TB3 was to be seen on deck.

Has BAYKAR once disclosed test data :

*How much fuel was the test object loaded.
*How many meters of run-up did TB3 need to take off from the ramp?
* Why is a naked TB3 always used for the tests?
*How many meters does it take for the test object to come to a stop when landing?
*What is the approach speed?
*Why are test videos always cut at the points where we can use some computer-supported measurement applications? And ...and...and..

What does BAYKAR not want to show us, what does not want to tell us? Don't they want to tell us that TB3 from ANADOLU is a failed project.

Yes, with this design, ANADOLU-based TB3 is a failed project.
 
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They should first have the confidence to approach things and ask questions before they make fun of your knowledge to others.

Firstly, they are probably wondering how many more launch samples they want to see? Or?

Secondly, I criticized Anka's wing construction. Such sayings have also been used here. Consequently, Anka's wing construction was changed along with the design.

TB3 problems to see and suspect are:

*Wing construction
*Unnecessary applications, which also has a negative effect on weight
*unsuitable and weak gear construction

Operating at sea is a completely different world, which invalidates all engineering knowledge on land. Has TB3 been left on the flight deck at ANADOLU for a month? without doing anything. Just like that: To collect data and remember reactions of material? NO. As you know, ANADOLU is very actively used on the open sea. no securely parked TB3 was to be seen on deck.

Has BAYKAR once disclosed test data :

*How much fuel was the test object loaded.
*How many meters of run-up did TB3 need to take off from the ramp?
* Why is a naked TB3 always used for the tests?
*How many meters does it take for the test object to come to a stop when landing?
*What is the approach speed?
*Why are test videos always cut at the points where we can use some computer-supported measurement applications? And ...and...and..

What does BAYKAR not want to show us, what does not want to tell us? Don't they want to tell us that TB3 from ANADOLU is a failed project.

Yes, with this design, ANADOLU-based TB3 is a failed project.
No company publish such information.
 

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They should first have the confidence to approach things and ask questions before they make fun of your knowledge to others.

Firstly, they are probably wondering how many more launch samples they want to see? Or?

Secondly, I criticized Anka's wing construction. Such sayings have also been used here. Consequently, Anka's wing construction was changed along with the design.

TB3 problems to see and suspect are:

*Wing construction
*Unnecessary applications, which also has a negative effect on weight
*unsuitable and weak gear construction

Operating at sea is a completely different world, which invalidates all engineering knowledge on land. Has TB3 been left on the flight deck at ANADOLU for a month? without doing anything. Just like that: To collect data and remember reactions of material? NO. As you know, ANADOLU is very actively used on the open sea. no securely parked TB3 was to be seen on deck.

Has BAYKAR once disclosed test data :

*How much fuel was the test object loaded.
*How many meters of run-up did TB3 need to take off from the ramp?
* Why is a naked TB3 always used for the tests?
*How many meters does it take for the test object to come to a stop when landing?
*What is the approach speed?
*Why are test videos always cut at the points where we can use some computer-supported measurement applications? And ...and...and..

What does BAYKAR not want to show us, what does not want to tell us? Don't they want to tell us that TB3 from ANADOLU is a failed project.

Yes, with this design, ANADOLU-based TB3 is a failed project.


lol

why should baykar give test data away?
 

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No, they are already doing to be able to sell them. Such data is a strong selling point.
They are openly accessible, not concealed
Like how, there are hundreds of developers but they don't publish. You don't even get to know what weight they take off with. Please provide sources if you know otherwise.
 

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Like how, there are hundreds of developers but they don't publish. You don't even get to know what weight they take off with. Please provide sources if you know otherwise.
I can provide you with test results from others.
 

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

General Atomics Mojave
 

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

General Atomics Mojave
No useful data in your post actually
 

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what does X47B have to do with TB3. You can have the test results from the counterpart of TB3

Naked:Take-off 152 m

Surveillance mode: 300 m take-off and 20 hours endurance

Armed ISR mode: Take-off 488 m with 12 anti-tank missiles
9 hours of endurance

From Land Take-Off = Full Payload Endurance 27 Hours

General Atomics Mojave
They do not publish during development, why should they.
 

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