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[BaburKhan]

Kizilelma should gain Air refuelling Capabillity and recieve Chaff & Flare Dispenser.

Baykar Develops New Features for Kızılelma Unmanned Fighter | TURDEF

As the tests of the Kızılelma unmanned fighter are ongoing with the third prototype, Baykar disclosed the development of various features for the next phases.

turdef.com

Bayraktar TB-2T AI recover itself autonomously from a Spin.

Bayraktar TB2T-AI Recovers From Spin Autonomously | TURDEF

Bayraktar TB2T-AI, the new version of Bayraktar TB2 armed UAV, successfully recovered from a body-axial spin autonomously in the recent test.

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[Fuzuli NL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909965625188835504

This is fvcking insane!
Note the added winglets.

 

[Strong AI]

Note the added winglets.

I think it is TB2T-AI in the video. Or maybe all new TB2s will be TB2T-AIs.

 

[Iskander]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909965625188835504

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/03/16/us-reaper-drone-russia-fighter-jet-video-released-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

Bayraktar cannot be shot down using this method.

 

[mTT]

5th Test Flight | Middle Altitude System Identification and Performance Test

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910340924153929920

 

[Boykaz]

[MEDYA=t]1910340924153929920[/MEDYA]

I think Turkey's older Bayraktar TB2s, over 150+, will be replaced with these in the future.

 

[King_West]

I think Turkey's older Bayraktar TB2s, over 150+, will be replaced with these in the future.

Ones the older ones become obsolute, they will use them as bait for radars and AD in future conflicts. Same like Azarbeidjan used their AN 2's. So 5 years from now we will start to see a lot more reports of downed TB2s

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910778906644250635

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910778906644250635

Time to hit a target it would be lovely hitting
a moving target.

 

[Fatman17]

Turkish manufacturers press ahead with UAV capabilities

Source: FlightGlobal
https://search.app/fquGe

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[Kitra]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/03/16/us-reaper-drone-russia-fighter-jet-video-released-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

Bayraktar cannot be shot down using this method.

There is a video shared even here of a TB2 under similar circumstances and it did fine.

 

[Iskander]

There is a video shared even here of a TB2 under similar circumstances and it did fine.

Yes, I remember.
Since all these features are being developed mainly for the purpose of their integration into the Kizielma, it would be interesting to know what the maximum operational overload (g) of the Kizielma is. It could be significantly, perhaps even several times greater than that of conventional fighters, closer to air-to-air missiles.

 

[Strong AI]

Yes, I remember.
Since all these features are being developed mainly for the purpose of their integration into the Kizielma, it would be interesting to know what the maximum operational overload (g) of the Kizielma is. It could be significantly, perhaps even several times greater than that of conventional fighters, closer to air-to-air missiles.

AFAIK the maximum or ultimate load is 1,5 times operational load. But the aircraft can maintain the max load only for a brief time without risking structural failure and it needs to be inspected after every time it exceeds its operational load.
The thing is, to maintain high g load for a longer time, you need serious power output. But since very good trained pilots can sustain 9g only for few seconds, imo it would be enough when KE can maintain 9g for a longer time than pilots. AFAIK Bozdogan will replace our AIM-9X (90° off-boresight capability, 60 g) missiles, so actually this means KE will need to achieve high g loads only for Dogfights with its gun (AFAIK it was reported that it will have an internal gun).

 

[No Name]

Has Turkey carried out any reforms based on the Ukraine war, and how have small drones affected modern warfare? It seems that both Ukraine, and russia have created an Unmanned Systems branch to their militaries.

I was wondering if turkey has done the same becauseit looks like Turkey has started to fall behind in drone warfare (not considering the big drones like TB2s).

here is a great video going over the way drone warfare as evolved in ukraine.

 

[Tuvan]

Has Turkey carried out any reforms based on the Ukraine war, and how have small drones affected modern warfare? It seems that both Ukraine, and russia have created an Unmanned Systems branch to their militaries.

I was wondering if turkey has done the same becauseit looks like Turkey has started to fall behind in drone warfare (not considering the big drones like TB2s).

here is a great video going over the way drone warfare as evolved in ukraine.

Lack of development of smaller class UAS while we are one of the leading countries in MALE, HALE UAS is worthy case study on its own.

Baykar is developing Kalkan STOL and Kemankes family.
TAI is developing Simsek family.
STM yet to reveal its FPV UAV.
KARGI should have been given to Aselsan at this point.
Smaller companies developing their own FPVs etc. but related agencies actively needs to be purchasing from them to incentivize development.

Reforms I don't know but there is definitely more emphasis on serial production capabilities as with other NATO countries. Also I believe some modernization programs will be reprioritized again at least eventually.

 

[No Name]

Lack of development of smaller class UAS while we are one of the leading countries in MALE, HALE UAS is worthy case study on its own.

Baykar is developing Kalkan STOL and Kemankes family.
TAI is developing Simsek family.
STM yet to reveal its FPV UAV.
KARGI should have been given to Aselsan at this point.
Smaller companies developing their own FPVs etc. but related agencies actively needs to be purchasing from them to incentivize development.

Reforms I don't know but there is definitely more emphasis on serial production capabilities as with other NATO countries. Also I believe some modernization programs will be reprioritized again at least eventually.

Sadly, Turkey seems to be falling behind, just as I feared thanks for sharing your knowledge.

 

[Tuvan]

Sadly, Turkey seems to be falling behind, just as I feared thanks for sharing your knowledge.

There is IDEF 2025 this year. I think we will see big push for FPVs and other UAS. Plus companies like Baykar could reveal brand new platforms like they did with Kemankes.

 

[TR_123456]

Has Turkey carried out any reforms based on the Ukraine war, and how have small drones affected modern warfare? It seems that both Ukraine, and russia have created an Unmanned Systems branch to their militaries.

I was wondering if turkey has done the same becauseit looks like Turkey has started to fall behind in drone warfare (not considering the big drones like TB2s).

here is a great video going over the way drone warfare as evolved in ukraine.

It hasnt evolved,it has adapted to the circumstances.
Both sides have limited other resources/weapons.

 

[neosinan]

Sadly, Turkey seems to be falling behind, just as I feared thanks for sharing your knowledge.

I'll give my prediction here, I think the reason we are seeing a lot of Kemankeş videos with emphasis on reusability, is Kemankeş will be a drone Hunter similar to Andruil's Anvil As a second mission. Kemankeş will be a great Shahed hunter. Since there is a lot of tb2s and Akıncıs. We can use them in large scale and they will be more flexible compare to Andruil Anvil since they can be launched from any point with longer range. It is perfect solution to Shahed style cheap drones World is facing.