TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

[Kaan Azman]

and oh, here is the infographic I was talking about

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909720255070363802

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Anka-III without it's stealth Charateristics will be an easy Target in an contested Airspace, the Problem is that Süper Simsek does not fit in internal Weapon Bays of Anka-3. This mean it will lose it's Stealth Charateristics. It can be possible when Anka-III works within a unmanned - unmanned or unmanned - manned Team. It can fly in fully Stealth mode in contested Airspace and provide Targeting Data to other Drones or Aircraft.

Sure, but Super Şimşek is also stealth, unlike JEMSAH or normal Şimşek. The attachment points will probably do more harm to the RCS than Super Şimşek itself.



Şimşek: cheap SEAD (RF head for cheap AR?)
JEMSAH: Supersonic, rumored to carry EW payload
Super Şimşek: stealth, can be fitted with a variety of payloads
Enhanced Şimşek (no name as far as I'm aware): middle ground between Şimşek and Super Şimşek. Likely faster and more stealthy than normal Şimşek.

That's a hell of a family. Add Kargı, Akbaba, Çakır RF & EW variants and other SEAD/DEAD missiles and we're talking about a serious threat to any modern air defence network.

If hardpoints can be made stealthy, Anka 3 should carry Super Şimşek as well as carrying Çakır internally.

Meanwhile, Aksungur and Akıncı could carry a number of cheaper SEAD/DEAD drones.

Together, Aksungur/Akıncı could soften, confuse and overwhelm the whole network, meanwhile Anka 3 could focus on AD HVTs (long range systems)

 

[Kaan Azman]

I would want to add Kargı if Lentatek wasn't "I sleep" but yeah

Enhanced Şimşek is basically Şimşek but aerodynamically refined to be like a downsized Süper Şimşek (More I wanna talk about it but I don't want a flurry of phone calls or worse even though it is not some kind of a superweapon)

 

[boredaf]

Doesn't Akbaba make more sense instead of SOM for that kind of mission?

In theory, yes, but have we heard anything about it lately? Also, iirc, it's range was far shorter than SOM and I was thinking about keeping Anka-3 in stand-off range, rather than risking it go into enemy aa range with hardpoints on its wings that'll increase its rcs.

 

[Saithan]

If we are conducting test at Mach speed, then the structure of the Anka-3 is strong and durable enough to handle it. I remember something about that platforms flying at Mach 1 and above is exposed to very tough pressure and structural challenges.

flying above Mach 1 in short durations to begin with, but experimenting with longer duration to properly grasp the challenges on the structure is very important. Especially if it's necessary to fly for longer time.

 

[boredaf]

I think we can't say this yet, because Akbaba will have Ramjet propulsion. Meteor's max range is stated as 200 km.
But i am curious if the pylons will be droppable or not.

I was going on by what I remembered from old reports and it was around 50 kms back then, which was about the same as AGM-88 iirc. I can't remember what the extended range on AGM-88, but perhaps Akbaba will have around that?

 

[Turkic]

I was going on by what I remembered from old reports and it was around 50 kms back then, which was about the same as AGM-88 iirc. I can't remember what the extended range on AGM-88, but perhaps Akbaba will have around that?

Our defence industry always aims for at least the same performance as its Western replacements. So we should consider the latest specifications of the AGM-88 for the Akbaba Block 2 or 3, even if not for the first batch.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909965625188835504

 

[KhanOfEurasia]

Kizilelma should gain Air refuelling Capabillity and recieve Chaff & Flare Dispenser.

Baykar Develops New Features for KIZILELMA Unmanned Fighter | TURDEF

As the tests of the KIZILELMA unmanned fighter are ongoing with the third prototype, Baykar disclosed the development of various features for the next phases.

turdef.com

Bayraktar TB-2T AI recover itself autonomously from a Spin.

Bayraktar TB2T-AI Recovers From Spin Autonomously | TURDEF

Bayraktar TB2T-AI, the new version of Bayraktar TB2 armed UAV, successfully recovered from a body-axial spin autonomously in the recent test.

turdef.com

 

[Fuzuli NL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909965625188835504

This is fvcking insane!
Note the added winglets.

 

[Iskander]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1909965625188835504

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/03/16/us-reaper-drone-russia-fighter-jet-video-released-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

Bayraktar cannot be shot down using this method.

 

[mTT]

5th Test Flight | Middle Altitude System Identification and Performance Test

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910340924153929920

 

[Boykaz]

[MEDYA=t]1910340924153929920[/MEDYA]

I think Turkey's older Bayraktar TB2s, over 150+, will be replaced with these in the future.

 

[King_West]

I think Turkey's older Bayraktar TB2s, over 150+, will be replaced with these in the future.

Ones the older ones become obsolute, they will use them as bait for radars and AD in future conflicts. Same like Azarbeidjan used their AN 2's. So 5 years from now we will start to see a lot more reports of downed TB2s

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910778906644250635

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1910778906644250635

Time to hit a target it would be lovely hitting
a moving target.

 

[Fatman17]

Turkish manufacturers press ahead with UAV capabilities

Source: FlightGlobal
https://search.app/fquGe

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[Kitra]

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/03/16/us-reaper-drone-russia-fighter-jet-video-released-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn

Bayraktar cannot be shot down using this method.

There is a video shared even here of a TB2 under similar circumstances and it did fine.

 

[Iskander]

There is a video shared even here of a TB2 under similar circumstances and it did fine.

Yes, I remember.
Since all these features are being developed mainly for the purpose of their integration into the Kizielma, it would be interesting to know what the maximum operational overload (g) of the Kizielma is. It could be significantly, perhaps even several times greater than that of conventional fighters, closer to air-to-air missiles.

 

[No Name]

Has Turkey carried out any reforms based on the Ukraine war, and how have small drones affected modern warfare? It seems that both Ukraine, and russia have created an Unmanned Systems branch to their militaries.

I was wondering if turkey has done the same becauseit looks like Turkey has started to fall behind in drone warfare (not considering the big drones like TB2s).

here is a great video going over the way drone warfare as evolved in ukraine.