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[Anmdt]

Maybe they are working on it?

Yeah they do.

 

[Huelague]

How do you want TB-4 to be? Like the TB3 but bigger or a different concept..?
Edit: apparantly, Baykar is already working on it for quite a few years (rumors) - https://turdef.com/article/baykar-might-be-developing-a-new-armed-uav-tb4

Bigger, wider, more MTOW and altitude. Maybe with small iwb's.

 

[Huelague]

I prefer our expectation to be in line with our actual needs.

...and customer needs.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

It makes little sense at present to consider a possible TB4 platform as long as the TB3 and TB2T AI are not yet widely available and fully integrated into service.
The priority should initially be to sell off part of the Turkish Armed Forces' older TB2 stock, particularly to friendly countries in Central Asia, Middle East, the Baltic States or Africa.

The proceeds from this could be channelled into the series production of modern systems such as TB3 and TB2T AI, which would ensure operational capability until around 2035.

Only when Baykar, Kale Arge or TEI succeed in developing a compact, fuel-efficient turbofan engine (not a turbojet) with a power range of around 800–1000 lbf by around 2032 will the time have come to seriously consider the TB4 generation.

This is because, from this stage of development onwards, medium sized MALE drones will require turbofan engines in order to achieve the required performance parameters.
From around 2035+ onwards, such systems will not only have to be significantly more agile and faster – with speeds of around 350–400 km/h in patrol mode and up to 700–800 km/h in combat mode – but also achieve endurance times of at least 10–12 hours.
By then, aerial combat against drones will have changed fundamentally, especially as enemy drone defence systems will become increasingly dynamic and much more aggressive then today.

 

[Huelague]

Yeah they do.

It seems you have some valid informations.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Greek Defense Minister Dendias' statement on Turkish UAVs​

Başak Berber October 31, 2025

Speaking at the 4th Economic Forum, Greek Defense Minister Nikos Dendias announced that the Centauros anti-drone system was specifically designed to counter Turkish-made Bayraktar UAVs. Dendias also shared details about the modernization process of the Hellenic Armed Forces.
Referring to Türkiye's unmanned aerial vehicle capacity, Dendias said:

"According to our information, Türkiye has currently deployed over one million drones. This number is truly impressive.
"If anyone wants to understand what can happen, they only need to look at what happened in Armenia, in Nagorno-Karabakh. There you can see how a war can be lost without even firing a single shot. And we are trying to deal with all of this."

Precautions against Bayraktars​

Dendias explained the purpose of the Centauros system as follows:
But I also want to look at the positive side of this situation. Indeed, Turkey has successfully sold Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to many countries. However, we, as Greece, have centauros, a cutting-edge anti-drone system developed specifically to counter Bayraktar drones.

Every country to which Türkiye sells these vehicles has a competitor. The competitor of the country to which Türkiye sells can procure the world's best anti-Bayraktar system from us. And, incidentally, we have already received interest from two countries, in addition to Greece, to procure Centauros.

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Domestic drone production facilities​

The Greek Defense Minister also announced new steps toward the Greek army's drone production capacity. Dendias stated, "We have introduced two mobile drone production facilities that follow our large units. We can increase these. Soon, every Greek military unit will have a mobile factory system capable of producing Greek drones produced using domestic technology."

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Bayraktar calls for precautions against TB2 and TB3​

Greek Defense Minister Dendias, in a recent statement, stated that precautions should be taken against the Bayraktar TB2 and Bayraktar TB3 unmanned aerial vehicles.

Dendias used the following expressions in his statement:
"Let me give you a very concrete and present example. How do we deal with a drone swarm? In our case, with the Bayraktar II and Bayraktar III drones. How would we do that economically? Because the simple answer is to launch your missiles at them. We would be bankrupt within a week."

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Source: SavunmaSanayiST.com / defencereview

Yunan Savunma Bakanı Dendias’tan Türk İHA’ları çıkışı | SavunmaSanayiST

Yunanistan Savunma Bakanı Dendias, Kentavros anti-dron sisteminin Bayraktar İHA’lara karşı özel olarak tasarlandığını açıkladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

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Dendias has better chances doing stand-up comedy than his current position.

With his "clever" counter-Bayraktar sales pitch strategy, he's doing the best promotion for the Turkish drones with no proof that the systems in question have been tested or their range of success.

 

[boredaf]

According to our information, Türkiye has currently deployed over one million drones.

That is an impressive pile of bullshit lmfao

 

[Fuzuli NL]

That is an impressive pile of bullshit lmfao

It could have the meaning of "a sh1tload of drones" in Greek. At least that's how I perceived it, otherwise, it's beyond comedy at that point.

 

[Ripley]

Greek Defense Minister Dendias' statement on Turkish UAVs​

Başak Berber October 31, 2025

Speaking at the 4th Economic Forum, Greek Defense Minister Nikos Dendias announced that the Kentavros anti-drone system was specifically designed to counter Turkish-made Bayraktar UAVs. Dendias also shared details about the modernization process of the Hellenic Armed Forces.
Referring to Türkiye's unmanned aerial vehicle capacity, Dendias said:

"According to our information, Türkiye has currently deployed over one million drones. This number is truly impressive.
"If anyone wants to understand what can happen, they only need to look at what happened in Armenia, in Nagorno-Karabakh. There you can see how a war can be lost without even firing a single shot. And we are trying to deal with all of this."

Precautions against Bayraktars​

Dendias explained the purpose of the Kentavros system as follows:
But I also want to look at the positive side of this situation. Indeed, Turkey has successfully sold Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to many countries. However, we, as Greece, have Kentavros, a cutting-edge anti-drone system developed specifically to counter Bayraktar drones.

Every country to which Türkiye sells these vehicles has a competitor. The competitor of the country to which Türkiye sells can procure the world's best anti-Bayraktar system from us. And, incidentally, we have already received interest from two countries, in addition to Greece, to procure Kentavros.

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Domestic drone production facilities​

The Greek Defense Minister also announced new steps toward the Greek army's drone production capacity. Dendias stated, "We have introduced two mobile drone production facilities that follow our large units. We can increase these. Soon, every Greek military unit will have a mobile factory system capable of producing Greek drones produced using domestic technology."

​

Bayraktar calls for precautions against TB2 and TB3​

Greek Defense Minister Dendias, in a recent statement, stated that precautions should be taken against the Bayraktar TB2 and Bayraktar TB3 unmanned aerial vehicles.

Dendias used the following expressions in his statement:
"Let me give you a very concrete and present example. How do we deal with a drone swarm? In our case, with the Bayraktar II and Bayraktar III drones. How would we do that economically? Because the simple answer is to launch your missiles at them. We would be bankrupt within a week."

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Source: SavunmaSanayiST.com / defencereview

Yunan Savunma Bakanı Dendias’tan Türk İHA’ları çıkışı | SavunmaSanayiST

Yunanistan Savunma Bakanı Dendias, Kentavros anti-dron sisteminin Bayraktar İHA’lara karşı özel olarak tasarlandığını açıkladı.

www.savunmasanayist.com

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Dendias has better chances doing stand-up comedy than his current position.

With his "clever" counter-Bayraktar sales pitch strategy, he's doing the best promotion for the Turkish drones with no proof that the systems in question have been tested or their range of success.

That is an impressive pile of bullshit lmfao

Still, must give him some credit for using a sober tone for a change rather than the usual hysterical one.

 

[Boykaz]

Yesterday morning, Kızılelma reached a speed of Mach 0.9 in a test.

Video coming soon.

N.

 

[Pokemonte13]

maybe this time they used the landing gear cover

 

[Sanchez]

Yesterday morning, Kızılelma reached a speed of Mach 0.9 in a test.

Video coming soon.
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That would be be great, but it's more like ADSB data to be wrong as it usually can be. Let's wait for actual telemetry from Baykar before getting excited. Mach 0.9 is high transonic, It'd be a great achievement for the airframe's sturdiness.

 

[Boykaz]

Harika olurdu, ama bu daha çok ADSB verilerinin yanlış olma ihtimaline benziyor, ki bu her zaman böyledir. Heyecanlanmadan önce Baykar'dan gerçek telemetri verilerini bekleyelim. Mach 0.9 yüksek transsonik hızdır, bu da uçağın gövdesinin sağlamlığı açısından harika bir başarı olurdu.

I don't think it's wrong

 

[Azeri441]

I mean, we'd use MALE and HALE drones in different ways than we are now if we were in a war. Ukraine has been using TB2s for recon and we would se TB2 and Anka like that as well, and Ukraine hit a Russian boat or two some time last summer as well. Akıncı and Aksungur could be used with stand off munitions, the way Russia uses their planes. Çakır and UAV-230, for example, both have 150+ km range, they can (possibly) be fired from under our own anti-air umbrella against targets. Oh, TB2 and Anka can use Roketsan's new Eren as well, which has 100 km range.

And for kamikaze drones, MKE just revealed this one:

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350 km range with 25 kg warhead, uses 2 domestic engines. And I'm pretty sure at least 1 company was making something similar to Geran, I think they called it Azap?

are you sure this is a suicide drone and not a UCAV project? the wing and twin engine design is pretty weird for a suicide drone

 

[MonteCarlo]

I don't think it's wrong

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The video was released today with title "middle attitude system qualification test". It can clearly be seen with afternurner on at certain points but no official max speed was given. Imo they would have mentioned it in the video if it actually hit 0.9 or 1 mach. So maybe they did a high speed test but not quite transonic yet.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1984980153869521272

 

[Strong AI]

are you sure this is a suicide drone and not a UCAV project? the wing and twin engine design is pretty weird for a suicide drone

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1976930467552412129

According to this, 120 kg take-off weight and 25 kg warhead.

MKE’den çift jet motorlu kamikaze İHA: KZ-350

Ateş Serbest-2025’te sergilenen çift jet motorlu kamikaze İHA KZ-350, GPS bağımsız tam otonom navigasyon yetenekleri ve 350 km menzili ile dikkat çekti.

www.defenceturk.net