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So,what you're saying is that without a domestic engine all the fuss about how good the KE is is just a scene from a Sci-Fi movie?:unsure::unsure::unsure: (thinking).
Nah mate, I wouldn't go that far. Is it underpowered, no doubt about that, but as long as it can carry and lob missiles from a standoff range, it'll still be useful to us. I don't believe in dogfights, other than the usual pissing contest between us and the Greek twats, especially when it comes to low observability aircraft. If Murad delivers as good as they have been promising, KE should still be good against anything other than 5th gen aircraft even as it is.

It is kind of a squeaky bum time for us when it comes to KE and Anka-3, we are almost there and I don't think we can go any faster. And you know me mate, I'm an eternal optimist me, I think they are going to build first batches of KE and Anka-3 with engine change in mind so that they can swap them when ours is ready 2028 onwards.
 

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And the engine?
TF6000 is almost ready. It has already produced almost the required thrust. (I caught In an interview Mr Demiroglu mentioning 5970lbf thrust being achieved). By the time the first LRIP samples are ready, that engine will be ready too.
Inspite of the war and the bombing of the factory site, Motor Sich has been delivering enough engines to produce LRIP quantities.

the TF10000 though still needs some time.

I don’t know why Baykar is insisting on TF10000 so much? As per @boredaf ’s post, I also think at this stage any dogfight scenarios for KE is a futile and useless attempt that would waste resources. If it uses the afterburner it will only make itself more observable. The only advantage would be to help it take of from shorter runways and/or with more useful payload. (May be they haven’t given up on the notion of it taking off from TCG Anadolu)
 
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You are correct. My bad. Forgot that.
In that case all they need to do is to ask TAI!
TAI and Baykar has wholly different approaches in platform development and R&D.

Baykar has luxury of trial and failure with plenty of prototypes, abundant amount of resources dedicated to this. They learn over failures and build upon, deliver in blocks and revisions after revisions. The latter is highly granted by political leverage which TAI lacks of having.

It was a turmoil when TAI lost a prototype - which somehow managed to glide and land, with minimal airframe damage, unflyable yet recoverable. That was all over the news with all images, meanwhile do we have any idea of how many prototypes Baykar lost?

All in all, TurAF expects Anka-III to be delivered almost in operable state with IWB, radars, automated command and control, while they are okaying KE to be delivered as an experimental product - like it happens with TB3 in a form faster flying Akıncı with higher payload and installed power to run more advanced components so i don't even expect IWB in first batch of KEs.
 

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TF6000 is almost ready. It has already produced almost the required thrust. (I caught In an interview Mr Demiroglu mentioning 5970lbf thrust being achieved). By the time the first LRIP samples are ready, that engine will be ready too.
Inspite of the war and the bombing of the factory site, Motor Sich has been delivering enough engines to produce LRIP quantities.

the TF10000 though still needs some time.

I don’t know why Baykar is insisting on TF10000 so much? As per @boredaf ’s post, I also think at this stage any dogfight scenarios for KE is a futile and useless attempt that would waste resources. If it uses the afterburner it will only make itself more observable. The only advantage would be to help it take of from shorter runways and/or with more useful payload. (May be they haven’t given up on the notion of it taking off from TCG Anadolu)
Oh mate i would very doubt if TF6000 is in a ready state. It is yet to go platform integration stage which hasn't commenced yet, excluding all those flight tests.
 

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Oh mate i would very doubt if TF6000 is in a ready state. It is yet to go platform integration stage which hasn't commenced yet, excluding all those flight tests.
My wording wasn’t totally correct probably. It should have read :
TF6000 is “almost” ready for flying.
As mentioned by Dr Aksit, it already produces more thrust than current Motor Sich engine that flies Anka-3. .
Since it is an unmanned platform that it will fly, it can be integrated in to Anka-3 sooner than expected or before the engine has fully matured.
Besides as I explained in another post, the Motor Sich is providing enough engines to allow Tusas to have LRIP for these birds. By the time this process is completed, most probable that TF6000 will be ready to fly.
 

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I think Baykar has been studying at developing TF20000 while TEI has been developing TF10000.
I heard that somewhere but not remembering.
 

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#Maroc & #Baykar: new drone factory! Located in Benslimane, operational in 2026, it will produce and maintain drones for the FAR. Strategic Morocco-Turkey partnership, creation of specialized jobs, and strengthening of the local military industry.



Baykar is establishing a $250 million production base in Africa: Recruitment announcements have been made!​


Baykar, the world's largest manufacturer of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), is commissioning its first production facility in North Africa, located in Morocco. The base, to be named "Atlas Defense," will begin production this year.​

Baykar is establishing a $250 million production base in Africa: Recruitment announcements have been made!


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Baykar, a leading company in the Turkish defense industry, is establishing a new production facility in Ben Slimane, Morocco, with a capital of $250 million.
The company, which will operate under the name "Atlas Defense," will be its first major production base in Africa.
Following the strategic cooperation agreement signed in December 2024, the construction process for the facility was initiated, and it is planned to begin production this year. The base will host the production of Bayraktar TB2 and Akıncı TİHA drones.
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AFRICAN PRESS ANNOUNCES: RECRUITMENT HAS BEGUN.

in Moroccan and African media According to reports , Atlas Defense has begun its initial pre-production recruitment process. Publications such as Morocco Intel, African Manager, and Agenzia Nova wrote that preparations for the opening of the factory in Ben Slimane are accelerating.
The job postings included positions for mechanical technician, electronics technician, aviation painting technician, aviation structural technician, and test pilot.
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PRODUCTION FOR THE ROYAL ARMED FORCES

Atlas Defense, a subsidiary based in Morocco, operates in the design, manufacture, and maintenance of unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as the production of technological components and systems for the defense industry.
The facility will focus on the production and maintenance of next-generation unmanned aerial vehicles to meet the needs of the Royal Moroccan Armed Forces. The project is described as a new phase in the strategic partnership between the two countries in the field of defense.
According to a decision published in the Moroccan Official Gazette, Atlas Defense, with a capital of $250 million, will be Baykar's first major production base on the continent.
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Türkiye'S AFRICA INITIATIVE

Baykar's investment in Morocco stands out as one of the steps strengthening Türkiye's defense industry presence on the African continent. The company had previously delivered Bayraktar TB2 drones to Morocco.
With the production base to be established in Ben Slimane, the process of on-site production of Turkish-based defense technologies in Africa will begin.

 

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Morocco literally is supported by Israel. How is this happened? Any explanation?
 

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So there is nothing official, and we can assume that this is fake news. We have not made any statements in this regard, let alone held a meeting between the Turkish and Moroccan defence ministers, which is usually how strategic matters are clarified. Therefore, the truthfulness of this report is 0.00%.

Before something like this happens, delegations exchange views several times and a memorandum of understanding is signed.
 
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