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[Pokemonte13]

A 200 kg warhead sounds great. Could it be converted into an anti radiation UAV by integrating the necessary sensors? Vestel Kargı still sleeping.

Theoretically yes but it needs a passive seeker and a (data link for mid course corrections if necessary). But using this for SEAD/DEAD duties is not smart as this is very big and slow. This would have a similar mission profile to shaheds only more capable. You could also use this as missile bait .

 

[Sanchez]

This is a weird design.

It looks like an attritable TB2. Biggest cost item on the drone the EO sight is replaced with a much smaller unit. Still have many similarities to TB2, which does make sense, they built over 800 TB2s so it is easy to believe that they can churn out components on the cheap.

Canards on the front are interesting, I wonder what do they add over the original design. Probably to use air friction to keep the nose down due to lost weight from the EO? It is possible that it is more maneuvrable like the tonneau they tried with TB2s in the past. The revised swept wing also clearly helps with maneuvrability. But doesn't look to have any MWR to detect incoming ordinance. It is possible that it "wobbles" during terminal phase to fend of any defenders.

It's a 10 meter wing span huge drone like TB2; so it cannot be catapult or rato launched, needs a runway. This is a disadvantage for countries that expect to fight against peer opponents and don't have the territorial depth. Turkey does have the depth so it would work for us. But the design is so simple that I can believe the unprepared runway claim.

With under the bonnet features that Baykar have been working on re AI, it should be interesting to watch.

 

[hugh]

How is this a kamikaze drone when it has bigger MTOW than a TB2? And it cannot be launched from a catapult as Sanchez said. I hope they designed it with tight packaging in mind and can be stacked and easily assembled in the place it will take off from.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Canards on the front are interesting, I wonder what do they add over the original design. Probably to use air friction to keep the nose down due to lost weight from the EO?

I'd assume it'll be handy when nose diving on targets

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

How is this a kamikaze drone when it has bigger MTOW than a TB2? And it cannot be launched from a catapult as Sanchez said. I hope they designed it with tight packaging in mind and can be stacked and easily assembled in the place it will take off from.

It's something completely new. It's not a traditional kamikaze drone. It's an expendable reconnaissance and attack drone that can drop light munitions but also destroy heavier, more fortified targets by crashing into them.

I love it because if you can't find targets it can return, refuel and immediately embark on a new mission.

With all that said, we can see in one scene of the video that the wings seem to fold, so I can assume that a non-wheeled version is being made too (stacked). I have heard that multiple versions are in the works so let's wait and see.

 

[boredaf]

Canards on the front are interesting, I wonder what do they add over the original design.

Forward lift and control, they need extra horizontal controls since they got rid off the tail and added vertical stabilisers to winglets from what I can see. And they need the lift as it is heavier while also its wings are smaller than TB2. And while the EO is smaller, there is no way nose of this thing is lighter. It is shorter than TB-2 and supposed to carry 200 kg warhead. Aft has the engine, payload is most likely mid-forward and needs the lift from canards so that it won't just pitch down constantly.

 

[Kaan Azman]

I think a simpler EO/IR will significantly reduce per unit cost since Bayraktar TB2 is generally used with high-end stuff when it comes to that.

What I'm hoping for is a modular warhead loading so that it can potentially carry smaller kamikaze UAVs either to saturate defenses or strike some opportunity targets along the way.

Even the much smaller Geran-2 can drop FPVs at this point

 

[Ahlatshah]

- EO is replaced smaller and cheap one

- Front canards make it easier for the short take off and landing, also can help accurracy in diving

- We can assume some of avionics in tb2 (especially expensive ones) also removed

- We dont know about radar visibility but absent of tail always helps

People tend to think only kamikaze UAV in the world is Shaeed 136. But 50 K2 and 100 kemankeş they carried (all coordinated with ai btw), with other long range munitions from other platforms in a coordinated attack can saturate and oblitarate any defense in the world.

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