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[Oublious]

Baykar is killing it....

 

[boredaf]

That 300km+ is its speed right? Anti-drone drone i guess

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034020785308766262

Yeah, you can see videos of similar systems from Russians and Ukrainians, designed to hunt slower drones. One Russian system launches like a gun, soldiers literally point and "shoot".

 

[boredaf]

Kemankeş-1 also had a stationary camera that was later upgraded to gimbal if I remember correctly. I wonder what is the reason for it

Shit field of view? I mean, you can't see anything with the first design unless the nose is pointing right at it, which is pretty useless, especially if the target is moving.

 

[MonteCarlo]

Shit field of view? I mean, you can't see anything with the first design unless the nose is pointing right at it, which is pretty useless, especially if the target is moving.

Yes the advantages of gimbal is quite obvious but I was more talking about the reason for starting with stationary camera. Especially for Kemankeş-2 when they already have experience flying an extremely similar system

 

[Pokemonte13]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034363507131416652

Second 0:19!!!

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034363507131416652

Second 0:19!!!

ther are 4 KE in production line and 3 Akinci on the lefst side.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Kızılelma entering full production, Anka 3 in its final stages of development, Super Şimşek in the inventory and the K2 surprise... great year to be a Turkish drone enthusiast

 

[Anmdt]

Kızılelma entering full production, Anka 3 in its final stages of development, Super Şimşek in the inventory and the K2 surprise... great year to be a Turkish drone enthusiast

Among all, only Super Simsek seemingly doesn't need a runway, yet again the platform it is launched from needs a runway.

And we all have seen how these runways are easily targeted in the first days of conflicts.

I suppose the lethality of a kamikaze drone stems from the distributed approach, whereas launching these from runway is absolutely centralizing against these efforts; assuming we lack boost phase, or terminal descent phase interceptors, attaching all of our kamikaze / decoy drones to a runway doesn't make much sense.

All i want to see is the RATO capable or canister launched drone, kargı and low-cost alternatives.

 

[Sanchez]

Among all, only Super Simsek seemingly doesn't need a runway, yet again the platform it is launched from needs a runway.

And we all have seen how these runways are easily targeted in the first days of conflicts.

I suppose the lethality of a kamikaze drone stems from the distributed approach, whereas launching these from runway is absolutely centralizing against these efforts; assuming we lack boost phase, or terminal descent phase interceptors, attaching all of our kamikaze / decoy drones to a runway doesn't make much sense.

All i want to see is the RATO capable or canister launched drone, kargı and low-cost alternatives.

For K2, Baykar claims unprepared runway capability. Roads, highways, fields, all are a possibility.

 

[Ahlatshah]

Among all, only Super Simsek seemingly doesn't need a runway, yet again the platform it is launched from needs a runway.

Super Simsek does not have to be launched from a flying platform, it is RATO capable

"SUPER SIMSEK can be launched from unmanned aerial vehicles such as ANKA III, AKSUNGUR and ANKA, as well as from the ground with a rocket-assisted system."

SÜPER ŞİMŞEK - TUSAS

SÜPER ŞİMŞEK

www.tusas.com

 

[Yasar_TR]

Super Simsek does not have to be launched from a flying platform, it is RATO capable

"SUPER SIMSEK can be launched from unmanned aerial vehicles such as ANKA III, AKSUNGUR and ANKA, as well as from the ground with a rocket-assisted system."

SÜPER ŞİMŞEK - TUSAS

SÜPER ŞİMŞEK

www.tusas.com

Well spotted.
But it still needs to be tested as a RATO capable drone to be accepted as one.

 

[Pilatino]

Kızılelma entering full production, Anka 3 in its final stages of development, Super Şimşek in the inventory and the K2 surprise... great year to be a Turkish drone enthusiast

I was exlpecting to see a Loyal Wingman / Gambit / Kızılelma lite like thing from the TUSAŞ, we just can't pass this branch, it's a promising concept. I hope AYAZ will fulfill my ecpectations in SAHA expo.

 

[HKY]

Super şimşek is a great platform for different tasks. But it has to be made to fit internal bays of anka3 and Kaan so it could be used effectively without giving up stealth.

 

[Huelague]

Super şimşek is a great platform for different tasks. But it has to be made to fit internal bays of anka3 and Kaan so it could be used effectively without giving up stealth.

Than they need retractable wings.

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Imagine K2 armed with AVCI or another Skydagger drone that's been programmed to hunt down HVTs such as parked aircraft...

Whereas TB2 was designed to launch munitions from a distance, K2 is supposed to get up close to do its work (for obvious reasons). This also means that it's a good platform to launch small drones from, meaning that if a few K2s approached an airbase they could disperse enough small drones to destroy all parked aircraft.

The problem with Iran's Shahed strikes is that they target the coordinates of an airbase without actually discriminating where the aircraft are parked. You can program small quadrocopter drones to identify parked planes, helicopters, etc.

Once air defences are depleted, every single aircraft becomes a sitting duck if you send in K2s armed with quadrocopters.

This type of concept could be further improved upon, but I don't want to give out any ideas

 

[boredaf]

Imagine K2 armed with AVCI or another Skydagger drone that's been programmed to hunt down HVTs such as parked aircraft...

Whereas TB2 was designed to launch munitions from a distance, K2 is supposed to get up close to do its work (for obvious reasons). This also means that it's a good platform to launch small drones from, meaning that if a few K2s approached an airbase they could disperse enough small drones to destroy all parked aircraft.

The problem with Iran's Shahed strikes is that they target the coordinates of an airbase without actually discriminating where the aircraft are parked. You can program small quadrocopter drones to identify parked planes, helicopters, etc.

Once air defences are depleted, every single aircraft becomes a sitting duck if you send in K2s armed with quadrocopters.

This type of concept could be further improved upon, but I don't want to give out any ideas

Every kg you add K2 would be removed from its payload, so what you're suggesting is lowering its payload which would lead to lowering the area it would be able to effect. And, those quad you want to put would destroy its flight profile. Not only would they cause significant drag, lowering its maximum range, they would also destroy its profile and make it far more visible to a radar. This is a slow platform, best defence it has is being unnoticed for as long as possible and it gets this from its shape and materials. Also, at the range K2 might be used, there is no way to control short range drones, so they would have to be completely autonomous which is so far not a thing.

And, it is unnecessary, 200 kg warhead is massive. Depending on the type of explosive, how they made the casing or fragmentation sleeve and its material and whether it explodes in the air or on impact, it could have a massive effective range that would render any aircraft in a massive radius an operational kill at the very least.

 

[Lool]

That 300km+ is its speed right? Anti-drone drone i guess

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2034020785308766262

Is it true that Skydagger is owned by Baykar?

 

[MonteCarlo]

Is it true that Skydagger is owned by Baykar?

From what I understand not exactly owned by the Baykar the company but Haluk Bayraktar has a sizeable stake in it. Their CEO called themselves "little sister company of Baykar" in a recent interview

 

[boredaf]

Does anyone know when Baykar changed the MTOW of KE? I remember it being 6 tons but I just looked and it is changed to 8.5 tons and its endurance is reduced to 3 hours from 5. And looking at earlier reports, operational altitude is reduce to 25k feet from 35k.

Edit: I should point out that the payload capacity haven't changed, it is still 1.5 tons, so it isn't a payload increase, it is a structural increase of 2 tons.

 

[uçuyorum]

Than they need retractable wings.

Unlikely

Does anyone know when Baykar changed the MTOW of KE? I remember it being 6 tons but I just looked and it is changed to 8.5 tons and its endurance is reduced to 3 hours from 5. And looking at earlier reports, operational altitude is reduce to 25k feet from 35k.

Edit: I should point out that the payload capacity haven't changed, it is still 1.5 tons, so it isn't a payload increase, it is a structural increase of 2 tons.

Well, more internal systems I guess, not just structurals. Like toygun and cooling etc