Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Ryder]

Will Russia start using the SU57?

 

[Ecderha]

Kirpi made by Türkiye.
It was hit by a ruZZian trash tank, no one died

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693536493070078222

 

[Ecderha]

Invaders convoy were obliterated in Spirne area 15km NE of Bakhmut

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693536431812067435

 

[Umigami]

F-16 VS SU-30

Indonesian Air Force can do it anytime

 

[UkroTurk]

+Ukraine needs 128 fighters to replace the old fleet and gain advantage in the sky.

This statement was made by the speaker of the command of the Air Force of Ukraine Yuriy Ignat.




+ Sweden explained why Gripen aircraft will not be transferred to Ukraine now


The transfer of Swedish Gripen fighters to Ukraine is not planned, since Sweden needs these aircraft for its own defense, because its application for NATO membership has not been completed yet.


+United States doubt the rapid success of the counter-offensive of AFU, - Financial Time



Tensions between Kiev and Washington deepen amid a slow offensive.

According to Financial Time, Kyiv launched a counter-offensive against the Russian occupying forces in the summer with sustained US support, but progress was slow. Analysts say it will be difficult for Ukraine to reclaim significant territory before autumn rains turn the soil into mud.

 

[UkroTurk]

Russia may launch a wave of public mobilization in autumn - GUR



Russia may launch a new wave of public mobilization in the fall of 2023. The Kremlin is now thinking about how to increase the readiness of Russians to "go to be slaughtered." This was stated by the representative of the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) Andrey Yusov on the air of the telethon on Monday, August 21.

“A new public wave of mobilization could have been launched a long time ago. Why public? Because mobilization activities on the territory of the Russian Federation did not stop. And after the so-called “partial mobilization”, this “meat fund” is replenished in the Russian army,” the representative of the GUR explained.

However, he admits that there may be a new public wave. The only thing holding the Kremlin back is the mood of the Russian population.

“No matter how zombified they may be, the Kremlin’s cloisters are afraid of subsequent reactions. Therefore, they are thinking about how to increase the “mobilization fervor” and the population’s willingness to go to the slaughter for the sake of making some crazy dreams of the Kremlin dwarf come true,” Yusov summed up.

 

[Relic]

Everyone is talking about F-16s, but I continue to maintain that they'll be limited in their impact on the battlefield. They may give Ukraine the ability to engage (from range) Russian helicopters and CAS aircraft with sophisticated AMRAAMs and they'll maximize the effectiveness of HAARMs, but for the most part, they'll likely serve as airborne AA platforms.

What's vastly more important to Ukraine is the West's ability to train and equip follow up mechanized brigades for Ukraine and to have them ready before their exisiting offensive brigades that they prepared in the spring need to rotate out of theater for rest and re-fit. Ukraine (via help from the West) prepared 12 brigades in the spring, but they've had 4+ months to continue to train troops across Europe and to organize more armor to equip them with. Ukraine is assaulting with approximately 6 brigades in the south, keeping 6 brigades in reserve for rotation. An additional 6 brigades would give Ukraine fresh forces to assault with, while the existing brigades rest.

So what kind of armor does the West have to equip the next brigades?

With the delay in Leopard 1A5 MBTs and Marder IFVs, it stands to reason that at least 1 Ukrainian brigade will be equipped with them as their primary armor. Ukraine is set to receive 135+ Leopard 1A5s, and an additional 60 Marder IFVs. They'll be paired with M113 APCs or one of the Western made MRAPs for troops transport. Expect this brigade to feature a battalion of self-propelled artillery that has been ordered by Ukraine and is set to be delivered. A battalion is typically 18 howitzers and could be any of Panzerhaubitze 2000, Zuzanna 2, or Archer, all of which are slowly arriving.

Another brigade will almost certainly feature American equipment. Ukraine is set to receive an initial batch if 31 M1A1 Abrams MBTs in September. Expect additional Abrams' to be pledged following the successful implementation of the original unit. It would only make sense that an additional 100'ish Bradley IFVs would be paired with Abrams to create a powerful mechanized brigade. Either Stryker or M113 APCs will undoubtedly serve as troop carriers in this brigade, which will be trained in Germany.

Beyond those first 2 brigades, it's less obvious where the additional equipment will come from. We have to keep in mind that many of Ukraine's most effective, battle hardened, exisiting brigades require a regular influx of equipment to maintain their potency. As a result, many of the Soviet made MBTs that Ukraine continues to receive / refurbish will not go to new brigades. Rather, they will supplement exisiting brigades, as losses inevitably mount.

 

[UkroTurk]

Zelensky asked Greece for air defense systems

(UkroTurk's opinion:Is S300 on the way?)

Zelensky called on Greece to help protect the Black Sea area with air defense systems

The President called on Athens to help Kyiv with the protection of the Black Sea area with air defense systems.





Greece could make a historic contribution to the security of the European Union if it helped protect the Black Sea area with air defense systems. This was stated by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky after negotiations with Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis.



"We are doing everything to restore security on the Black Sea coast. Ukraine has created an alternative grain corridor. It can work, but in order for its work to be stable, we need to strengthen the air shield, and this is very important for the Black Sea region, in particular, Odessa," he said.



According to Zelensky, this could be a historical contribution of Greece if the country helps in protecting the Black Sea area with air defense systems.



The head of state noted that it is very important that Greek companies are ready to take part in the transportation of Ukrainian grain: "We are counting on it very much."



The President also noted the importance of the fact that Greece joined the G-7 declaration on security guarantees for Ukraine.



Recall that Greece will take part in the training of Ukrainian pilots on F-16 fighter jets.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693692273769304448

 

[Ecderha]

Karma, ruZZian Rapists and Thieves got what they want it
These guys went to Ukraine to rape, kill and steal. And when they're captured they pretend they did NOT know what they were going to do.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693664288014057927

 

[blackjack]

Those are MLU enhanced bird, they could either be a Block 5,10,15,20 in their pre-MLU block. MLU themselves differs from operators, for example Indonesian APG-68v9 equipped Block 15 F-16 MLU are actually closer to Block 52+ minus the engine. The Dutch and Danish MLU F-16 are closer to Block 40 in some regards and are equipped with APG-66v(2), not the best Western radar out there but adequate for the job.

Your source of radar range comes from games. According to Forecast International, the APG-66v1 has ~48nm detection range (not track) and we know the APG-66v(2) has an improved 25% detection range than that of v1, so that's an estimated range of 60 nm or 100km. Being able to do TWS scanning of 10 and tracking 6 and simultaneous launch of all 6 AMRAAM, pretty good for a radar from 1983 in comparison to the latest Russian IRBIS-E (2007) that has a capability of around 30 track and 8 launch. Its not like the IRBIS-E being the most advanced Russian radar is impressive, it once detected 3 target from 268 km but only tracked one of it from around only 100km

One important features of MLU birds is the Bird slicer IFF, not found in either the Block 25/30/40, will help them a lot in BVR combat by being able to classify friend or foe from 100nm or 185km.

OK give me a source than for the APG-66v(2) since its not just forecast international that gives it a 50km tracking range https://cmano-db.com/pdf/sensor/2083/ https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kar...an AN,signal processor line replaceable units. Also give me a source that says its a block 40 since the only sources I am getting is a block 20.

Although you are quoting the capture range than the tracking range. a mig-31BM with a less powerful radar than the Su-35 hit a fighter sized target from 300kms away.

Which then could be exploited by the AMRAAM, a much more advanced and mature missile than the standard R-77 of the VKS in a long range engagement. Even better if the US would willingly donate latest C8 or even D variant AMRAAM (reported to be in excess of 200+km).
Cockpit wise the MLU are similar to Block 40 and 50, but MLU bird uses color display. So these MLU birds are quite capable being a throw away weapons that's on their way to retirement until F-35 arrives.

I only see alot of google sources say AIM-260km is to be 200kms. I dont know if you have noticed but the RVV-MD2 is operational and set in production before the AIM-9X block 3 with similar specs. I dont know about these 200km missiles project the U.S. boasts about but I think they have to be operational and in production, supplied it the U.S. before suppying it to Ukraine.

Off course there's no denying that overall the Su-35 and MiG-31BM are a more superior aircraft by raw power and some exotic armaments like the R-37, not to mention Ukraine's lack of force multiplier like AWACS, tankers etc. But on its own and with the correct tactics the F-16 could hold and even win, UAF only needs to figure it out without AWACS.

I mean they can send AWACs but i dont think it would be a great idea to get hit 200-300kms from a Su-35 or mig-31BM according to the target they hit 300kms away in the 1990s. Maybe the R-37M can set a new record of hitting an AWACs 400kms away.

I've given examples on Russia's radar performance above, not very impressive I must say. MiG-29/Su-27 doesn't have any phased array radar, the SU-57 is only in its early operational use and the Su-75 is at the moment a pet project.

yes they do, have you heard of the Su-27SM2 and the mig-29s use BARS radars. its always back and forth about radar breakthroughs. mig-31 was this 1st aircraft in the world with PESA, US or Japan with AESA and supposedly Russia with ROFAR. That aside I only have sources that suggest those F-16s use pulse radars unless you have sources that those F-16s are higher tier blocks I am all eyes here.

You have been theorizing this for ages now...with no visible effects. The Russian air force still fail to prove that I'm wrong and this post is from January 2022.

Although I'm referring to NATO, Ukraine is trained by NATO so by extension, if you can't ground the UAF on their airfield, the chance of doing such with actual NATO is slimmer.

The Ukrainians have received several hundred Storm Shadows and Scalps, but instances their combat use are only a literally handful so far. Not even NATO could comprehensively destroy all the combat aircraft of Yugoslavia or Iraq despite enjoying true air dominance, so I’m not sure why certain people are reading so much into the fact the AFU can still launch the occasional sortie from their deep interior.

If the AFU are doing so well with their existing fighter fleet, why all the clamour to get F16s?

Unless any NATO member is moronic enough to allow the AFU to base and operate F16s from their territory, no amount of F16s supplied will make any meaningful impact because of the airport support situation.

It’s one thing to hide a handful of planes amongst all the shelters, hangers and other buildings of all your airports and air bases, you will find it much harder to find good hiding spots for dozens of planes.

Pilot conversion training is only the easier part of the logistics burden of taking on and fielding F16s. The bigger challenge will be the ground crews. When China first imported Su27s from Russia, the biggest training pain was with ground crew instead of pilots. Ground crew tended to be much older than pilots, so their learning abilities are correspondingly less than youngsters. You also need to add in the language factor since all the training materials, instructors, displays and even inscriptions will all be in English. And language skills is a major factor since a big reason for the repeated pushing back of the ETA of F16 is down to inadequate language skills with even the hand picked first batch of seeder pilots from Ukraine, who are supposed to represent their most suitable candidates with the best English skills available.

Even if they do manage to get F16s in the air, those will almost certainly be early blk birds that will be comprehensively outclassed by even legacy Russian aircraft like Su35s. Sending them close to the frontlines is just suicide with extra steps, and I don’t imagine LockMart or the US will particularly relish seeing F16 kill marks on Russian Su35s, Su57s or even Mig31s, as such, don’t get your hopes up of F16s being the new Leopard 2 silver bullet to allow the AFU to sweep all before them and be at Moscow by Christmas.

 

[blackjack]

No idea if the AFU reporting this now means that Russia just launched some sort of offensive.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693720181355184499

 

[Ecderha]

Battle in the south of Robotyne.
Ukraine army Bradley IFV passes by a destroyed ruZZian T-90M and Ukrainian infantry.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693927362180841570

 

[Ecderha]

What you could expect from murderers, thieves, rapists and looters?
Nothing.....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693686471855833129

The place where it happpend

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671638891974250497

 

[Rooxbar]

What kind of brain damage is going on over there to make this a possibility:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1693362411384824285

 

[Lool]

Putin may actually win this war if Ukraine doesnt improve its strategy
No wonder he is happily sending his meat soldiers to die in order to preserve the southern front
In a sense, according to the article, Putin may be winning at the end and this meanz a horrid end for Western dominance

Ukraine’s Forces and Firepower Are Misallocated, U.S. Officials Say (Published 2023)

American strategists say Ukraine’s troops are too spread out and need to concentrate along the counteroffensive’s main front in the south.

www.nytimes.com

 

[UkroTurk]

Explosions were heard in Crimea, the Kerch bridge is blocked



22:07, 22.08.23



The invaders blocked the Crimean bridge

The occupying authorities announce exercises.

On the evening of Tuesday, August 22, explosions were heard in occupied Sevastopol. This is reported by local Telegram channels.

it was reported that the movement of vehicles on the Crimean Bridge was temporarily suspended.

In Sevastopol, they report the sounds of explosions and machine gun fire. The Russian project of the Cheka-OGPU reports on the work of air defense on the Crimean bridge. Meanwhile, Russian channels write that the sounds of explosions in Sevastopol are heard due to the training of units of the RF Armed Forces in Kazachya Bay.



Updated at 23:00: The Russian Ministry of Defense announced that it had spotted MQ-9 "Reaper" and TB2 "Bayraktar" unmanned aerial vehicles over the Black Sea, which were conducting aerial reconnaissance in the Crimean region.

The occupiers say that they raised two fighter jets into the sky, after which the drones changed their flight direction and left the reconnaissance areas.

Meanwhile, traffic on the Crimean bridge was restored.

 

[UkroTurk]

Ukraine hits Moscow by loetering ammunition.

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[Relic]

Putin may actually win this war if Ukraine doesnt improve its strategy
No wonder he is happily sending his meat soldiers to die in order to preserve the southern front
In a sense, according to the article, Putin may be winning at the end and this meanz a horrid end for Western dominance

Ukraine’s Forces and Firepower Are Misallocated, U.S. Officials Say (Published 2023)

American strategists say Ukraine’s troops are too spread out and need to concentrate along the counteroffensive’s main front in the south.

www.nytimes.com

Ukraine does not need to consolidate their exisiting troops. They need 4-6 Western trained / equipped followup brigades to enter the action in the south come the fall. They need another 12,000-18,000 mechanized soldiers to be training right now, to keep driving the wedge towards Tokmak and beyond, while continuing to keep Russian soldiers spread out along multiple axis'.

Along with those troops, they need the following additional support to arrive to the SOUTHERN FRONT by the fall...

60-90 M1A1 Abrams MBTs
40-60 Leopard 1 MBTs
40-60 T-64 / T-72 MBTs
30-40 Leopard 2 MBTs
100 Bradley IFVs
40-60 Marder IFVs
40-60 Rosonak IFvs
100 M113 APCs
100 Kirpi APCs
8 Archer 155mm artillery
8-10 Firtina 155mm artillery
18 M109A6 155mm artillery
18 Panzerhaubitze 2000 155mm artillery

150,000 155mm artillery shells per month.

50,000 105mm artillery shells per month.

50,000 120mm mortar rounds per month.

1000 GPS guided 155mm artillery shells per month.

500 GMLRS per month.

40-50 Stormshadow / SCALP / Taurus cruise missiles per month.

Ukraine is grinding through Russia's defenses in the south, but attrition is a real thing and cannot be ignored. Ukraine, via their partners, have to have fully armed and equipped, fresh brigades, ready to spell the existing ones as they face natural attrition and gradually become more combat ineffective. Furthermore, a plan must be in place to reinforce the ranks of the existing brigades when they rotate away from the front and rest / reconstitute. Getting them back to full manning and as close to full firepower as possible within 90 days, is paramount.

 

[Gary]

I'm feeling that at some point in time there will be an airliner getting shot down in around Moscow after being mistaken by Russian air defense site as drones.

Moscow's air traffic continue as normal even after multiple drone strike. Wrong place and at the wrong time those Russian missile could've mistaken an airliner for a bober drone.