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More in this week Russian missile attacks that killed 20+ Ukrainian "Elite" infantries.


Russian missile strike turned Ukrainian medal ceremony into a bloodbath​

November 9, 2023 at 1:00 a.m. EST


KYIV — Members of Ukraine’s 128th Mountain Assault Brigade gathered Friday morning for a medal ceremony near the front line in the southeastern region of Zaporizhzhia — continuing a military tradition dating back to Soviet times, which Ukrainian officials had sustained to prop up morale among exhausted troops.

“The Soviet era came back,” said one member of the 128th Brigade, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive events. “It resembled scenes from Russian propaganda films about World War II, where soldiers stand in rows, looking all glamorous.”

But instead of celebrating the fighters’ bravery and service, the award ceremony turned into a bloodbath. A Russian missile strike killed at least 19 soldiers in attendance, including several high-ranking officers and some of the brigade’s best warriors. Many had removed their helmets for the proceedings and suffered head injuries. Dozens of others were wounded.


“When the attack occurred, it was difficult to say how many people were injured or killed,” said a second brigade member, who spoke to his colleagues after the incident and was also granted anonymity. “At the moment after the shelling, 21 bodies were counted. Whether everyone survived in the hospital is unknown.”
The attack on the 128th Brigade has unleashed a wave of public criticism on social media unusual for Ukraine — a society that instinctively plays down battlefield losses out of patriotism and fear of providing fuel to Russia’s propaganda machine.
Indeed, initially there was no public announcement of the deadly incident, which occurred in the village of Zarichne, about 20 miles from the front line.

News of the missile strike began to filter out on social media later on Friday and through the weekend.


By Sunday, Ukrainian news outlets were reporting the attack, and Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov said a “tragedy” had struck the brigade, but he did not provide any details. Later, the 128th Brigade published the death toll on its Facebook page.
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The awful toll from the ceremony, which was called in honor of Ukrainian Missile Force and Artillery Day, has raised searing questions about why such a large public event was held in a location that could easily be seen by Russian drones and was well within range of Russian missiles.
A Russian missile, two by some accounts, struck the gathering 10 minutes after the ceremony began at about 10 a.m.

Often such medal ceremonies are small, with perhaps 30 people in attendance, and take place in a well-protected bunker or trench. Friday’s gathering, however, occurred in an open area and involved nearly 100 people, including many who were not receiving medals, brigade members said.


“They gathered people from all the units — the best people,” said a Ukrainian serviceman with knowledge of what happened. “There were 43 on the list [of those to receive medals].”
“In fact, there were many more people, because they had to be transported there, and there were about 20 vehicles,” he said.
On Monday, Ukraine’s State Bureau of Investigation said it was opening a criminal inquiry into the circumstances of the attack, based on the crime of “negligent attitude of a military official to service.”

The first brigade member said the location of the ceremony was “constantly within the range of ballistic missile strikes and everything else that flies from afar.”
The missile struck a courtyard in a building where the ceremony was taking place and the road outside.
Noting the many head wounds, the serviceman said: “The medics said they had not seen something like this since the beginning of the full-scale war.”
Russian missile strikes brigade in Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine says
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has mentioned the ceremony strike repeatedly in recent days, expressing his condolences to the families of the dead. It was “a tragedy that could have been avoided,” Zelensky said in his Sunday evening address.



On Monday, the president personally announced that the brigade commander, Dmytro Lysiuk, had been suspended while the investigation continues.
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“The whole situation is being analyzed minute by minute,” Zelensky said. “And it will be found out who exactly violated the rules on the safety of people in the area accessible to enemy aerial reconnaissance. There will be no avoidance of responsibility.”
How the Russians knew to target the ceremony is a main question, brigade members said.
“It’s still unclear what exactly happened — whether it was the locals who called and reported that a bunch of people had gathered or that there was a leak of information from the internal headquarters of the brigades,” the first brigade member said.

But the strike had to be planned in advance, he said. “You can’t launch a missile in two minutes or in 15 — when the enemy aimed a missile there, he was well aware that there was a lot of leadership and it would be a pretty big hit,” he said.


There were also conflicting reports of who planned the ceremony and what time it was supposed to start. Some said the event was delayed by 30 minutes, leaving the soldiers standing in the courtyard for an extended period. Lysiuk, the brigade commander, arrived at the ceremony late — minutes after the missile struck, the second brigade member said.
“Everyone is angry at the command,” the second brigade member said. “They could have given an order to move everything to another location or some shelter. Move everything and conduct the ceremony there.

“Why this didn’t happen, I don’t know,” he said. “It’s just military stupidity.”
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However, even after the attack, some officials defended the practice of awarding medals near the combat zone. Former deputy defense minister Hanna Maliar said the ceremonies were a “very important part” of military culture.


“I myself have had the honor of awarding ministerial and state awards to our soldiers on the front lines — this is a very exciting moment for everyone,” Maliar wrote on the Telegram messaging platform. Such events are especially meaningful, she added, because “this happens in the presence of brothers in arms, and not alone.”
The Russians could have found out about the ceremony from “an inadvertent leakage of information” caused by “the human factor,” Maliar wrote.

“Due to the fact that the full-scale war has been going on for more than a year, the sense of danger has faded for many,” she wrote. “It is difficult for a person to constantly be in a state of increased attention and concentration at the risk of death.”
The serviceman, however, said that the practice of Soviet-style ceremonies must end immediately. “Soldiers and military, officers are afraid that this will not be done and it all can happen again, God forbid,” he said.


The serviceman said that if the relatives of the soldiers had not “raised a cry” on social media after the attack, “then no one would have known.”
After the strike, Viktor Mykyta, the governor of the southwestern Transcarpathia region where the 128th Brigade is usually based, announced a three-day mourning period. On Monday, residents of the region’s two largest cities, Uzhgorod and Mukachevo, held candlelight vigils for the victims.
The 128th Mountain Brigade draws its members from across Ukraine, however. On Wednesday, dozens gathered at a church in central Kyiv to attend the funeral of Mykyta Vlaskov, 25, who died in the strike.

Servicemen attend Vlaskov's funeral on Wednesday. (Serhiy Morgunov for The Washington Post)
Among the mourners were a group of Vlaskov’s schoolmates, who had known each other since sixth grade. Oleksii Herasymchuk, 25, said the friends met Vlaskov every time he came home from the front. The last time was Aug. 18, he said.


Herasymchuk said 10 of their classmates were part of a group chat on Telegram and that Vlaskov usually “responded pretty quick to my messages.”
“I’m monitoring numerous news channels, so immediately texted him after the news about the attack on his brigade,” Herasymchuk said. “He didn’t respond and we were looking for any news on him since Friday.” On Sunday, Vlaskov’s mother told his friends that he had died.
“He was talented, fun, and stylish, actually. He used to paint,” Herasymchuk said. The attack, he added, “is not only a tragedy for this brigade, but all of Ukraine.”
Andriy Sholtes in Uzhgorod, Ukraine, contributed to this report.
 

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A Nov 1st Ukrainian 🇺🇦 strike on the Russian command centre in the Dnipro region killed 3 of the command group's most senior officers, according to published Russian obituaries.

Colonel Vadym Dobryakov (Deputy Head of the Dnipro Control Centre)

Colonel Oleksandr Galkin (Deputy Head of the Dnipro Control Centre)

Colonel Aleksey Koblov (Headnof the Planning Department for Fire Damage to the Enemy)
 

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Geroman is known as paid proactive ruzzian propagandist and liar! His posts are 99% pure fabrications


I understand that you really like ruzzians, it is fine. But repeating lies and lies does not make them True.
ruzzian military machine is producing more!!! We already saw this not True.

There are so many logical Facts.
For example:
ruzzia took all build and paid products which were property of other country. Products prduced for export which were ready to be shiped were taken by ruzzians, example tanks, air defense systems etc-> It started with India, then ruzzia took all military stock of Belarus. Then they took all which Iran had it, when Iran went dry. ruzzia look for other source and this was NorthKorea. This source also is used and went dry.
ruzzia and all above countries started and keep produce prodcuts for ruzzia and went we include ruzzian product too then we see that this is not enough.
In present we seeing that ruzzia is despered and start to look other countries.

ruzzia were never able to reach production capacity of WEST. This is the fact in present days too.
Lies after lies that ruzzian is producing more will not change the reality. No matter how many time repeating the same lie after lie and lie again will not change it.

:rolleyes:
"ruzzia asks Pakistan, Egypt and Brazil to return weapons sold to them due to huge losses in Ukraine"
ruzzia desperatly need ammo and military prodcuts from others. When the source went dry then ruzzia is finished
 

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Well this is new to me, usually civilians are thrown into white vans, not beating the crap out of the AFU.


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Geroman is known as paid proactive ruzzian propagandist and liar! His posts are 99% pure fabrications


I understand that you really like ruzzians, it is fine. But repeating lies and lies does not make them True.
ruzzian military machine is producing more!!! We already saw this not True.

There are so many logical Facts.
For example:
ruzzia took all build and paid products which were property of other country. Products prduced for export which were ready to be shiped were taken by ruzzians, example tanks, air defense systems etc-> It started with India, then ruzzia took all military stock of Belarus. Then they took all which Iran had it, when Iran went dry. ruzzia look for other source and this was NorthKorea. This source also is used and went dry.
ruzzia and all above countries started and keep produce prodcuts for ruzzia and went we include ruzzian product too then we see that this is not enough.
In present we seeing that ruzzia is despered and start to look other countries.

ruzzia were never able to reach production capacity of WEST. This is the fact in present days too.
Lies after lies that ruzzian is producing more will not change the reality. No matter how many time repeating the same lie after lie and lie again will not change it.

:rolleyes:
"ruzzia asks Pakistan, Egypt and Brazil to return weapons sold to them due to huge losses in Ukraine"
ruzzia desperatly need ammo and military prodcuts from others. When the source went dry then ruzzia is finished

I know Geroman from the Syrian civ war days, I actually chatted with him via dm lol, he's not the best source when it comes to integrity but it is clear that Russia outproduces the West in some critical area. Very noteworthy Russia produces 7x the amount of munitions from the combined West.


And as the war dragged on without an end in sight it would be an increasing headache for Western military planners to replenish their own stockpile. Even the staunchest of allies would have certain red line when it comes to the security of their stockpile.

Add the Israeli Hamas war which will even strain U.S. commitment towards Ukraine by a margin.

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Ps: I don't like Russia, but I found them useful.LOL.
 

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This has nothing to do with the Ukraine-Russian war, but i couldn't help but notice: Doesn't Russian and Ukrainian artillerymen fires even more rounds?

I guess there will be a lot of Javier Ortiz running around in both Russia and Ukraine. 😁


A Secret War, Strange New Wounds, and Silence From the Pentagon​


Many U.S. troops who fired vast numbers of artillery rounds against the Islamic State developed mysterious, life-shattering mental and physical problems. But the military struggled to understand what was wrong.

By Dave Philipps
Photographs by Matthew Callahan
Nov. 5, 2023

When Javier Ortiz came home from a secret mission in Syria, the ghost of a dead girl appeared to him in his kitchen. She was pale and covered in chalky dust, as if hit by an explosion, and her eyes stared at him with a glare as dark and heavy as oil.
The 21-year-old Marine was part of an artillery gun crew that fought against the Islamic State, and he knew that his unit’s huge cannons had killed hundreds of enemy fighters. The ghost, he was sure, was their revenge.

A shiver went through him. He backed into another room in his apartment near Camp Pendleton in California and flicked on the lights, certain that he was imagining things. She was still there.
A few days later, in the barracks not far away, a 22-year-old Marine named Austin Powell pounded on his neighbor’s door in tears and stammered: “There’s something in my room! I’m hearing something in my room!”

His neighbor, Brady Zipoy, 20, searched the room but found nothing.

“It’s all right — I’ve been having problems, too,” Lance Corporal Zipoy said, tapping his head. The day before, he bent down to tie his boots and was floored by a sudden avalanche of emotion so overwhelming and bizarre that he had no words for it. “We’ll go see the doc,” he told his friend. “We’ll get help.”

All through their unit — Alpha Battery, 1st Battalion, 11th Marines — troops came home feeling cursed. And the same thing was happening in other Marine and Army artillery units.

An investigation by The New York Times found that many of the troops sent to bombard the Islamic State in 2016 and 2017 returned to the United States plagued by nightmares, panic attacks, depression and, in a few cases, hallucinations. Once-reliable Marines turned unpredictable and strange. Some are now homeless. A striking number eventually died by suicide, or tried to.

An artilleryman wearing a helmet and  camouflage uniform stands with his back to a howitzer as smoke pours from its barrel. In the desert landscape beyond, the horizon is tilted.

Tommy McDaniel was part of a Marine Corps gun crew that fired 7,188 rounds in a few months. In 2021, after years of suffering from headaches and depression, he died by suicide.Credit...Matthew Callahan/U.S. Marine Corps

Interviews with more than 40 gun-crew veterans and their families in 16 states found that the military repeatedly struggled to determine what was wrong after the troops returned from Syria and Iraq.

All the gun crews filled out questionnaires to screen for post-traumatic stress disorder, and took tests to detect signs of traumatic brain injuries from enemy explosions. But the crews had been miles away from the front lines when they fired their long-range cannons, and most never saw direct fighting or suffered the kinds of combat injuries that the tests were designed to look for.

A few gun-crew members were eventually given diagnoses of P.T.S.D., but to the crews that didn’t make much sense. They hadn’t, in most cases, even seen the enemy.

The only thing remarkable about their deployments was the sheer number of artillery rounds they had fired.

The United States had made a strategic decision to avoid sending large numbers of ground troops to fight the Islamic State, and instead relied on airstrikes and a handful of powerful artillery batteries to, as one retired general said at the time, “pound the bejesus out of them.” The strategy worked: Islamic State positions were all but eradicated, and hardly any American troops were killed.

But it meant that a small number of troops had to fire tens of thousands of high-explosive shells — far more rounds per crew member, experts say, than any American artillery battery had fired at least since the Vietnam War.

Military guidelines say that firing all those rounds is safe. What happened to the crews suggests that those guidelines were wrong.

The cannon blasts were strong enough to hurl a 100-pound round 15 miles, and each unleashed a shock wave that shot through the crew members’ bodies, vibrating bone, punching lungs and hearts, and whipping at cruise-missile speeds through the most delicate organ of all, the brain.

More than a year after Marines started experiencing problems, the Marine Corps leadership tried to piece together what was happening by ordering a study of one of the hardest-hit units, Fox Battery, 2nd Battalion, 10th Marines.

The research was limited to reviewing the troops’ medical records. No Marines were examined or interviewed. Even so, the report, published in 2019, made a startling finding: The gun crews were being hurt by their own weapons.

More than half the Marines in the battery had eventually received diagnoses of traumatic brain injuries, according to a briefing prepared for Marine Corps headquarters. The report warned that the experience in Syria showed that firing a high number of rounds, day after day, could incapacitate crews “faster than combat replacements can be trained to replace them.”

The military did not seem to be taking the threat seriously, the briefing cautioned: Safety training — both for gun crews and medical personnel — was so deficient, it said, that the risks of repeated blast exposure “are seemingly ignored.”

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A memorial to Sgt. First Class Joshua James in his family’s living room in Clarksville, Tenn. For years after deploying to Iraq, he dealt with headaches and memory loss. He died by suicide in 2022.Credit...Matthew Callahan for The New York Times

Despite the concerns raised in the report, no one appears to have warned the commanders responsible for the gun crews. And no one told the hundreds of troops who had fired the rounds.
Instead, in case after case, the military treated the crews’ combat injuries as routine psychiatric disorders, if they treated them at all. Troops were told they had attention deficit disorder or depression. Many were given potent psychotropic drugs that made it hard to function and failed to provide much relief.
Others who started acting strangely after the deployments were simply dismissed as problems, punished for misconduct and forced out of the military in punitive ways that cut them off from the veterans’ health care benefits that they now desperately need.

The Marine Corps has never commented publicly on the findings of the study. It declined to say who ordered it or why, and would not make the staff members who conducted it available for interviews. Officers who were in charge of the artillery batteries declined to comment for this article, or did not respond to interview requests.
The silence has left the affected veterans to try to figure out for themselves what is happening.
Many never have.
Lance Corporal Powell, who was hearing things in his room, left the Marines and became a tow-truck driver in Kentucky, but he kept having paralyzing panic attacks on the road. In 2018, a year and a half after returning from Syria, he shot himself.
His neighbor in the barracks, Lance Corporal Zipoy, moved back to his parents’ house in Minnesota and started college. In 2020 he began hearing voices and seeing hidden messages in street signs. A few days later, in the grips of a psychotic delusion, he entered a house he had never been in before and killed a man he had never met.
When the police arrived, they found him wandering barefoot in the driveway. As they handcuffed him, he asked, “Are you going to take me to the moon?”

He was found not guilty of murder by reason of mental illness in 2021 and was committed to a locked ward of the Minnesota Security Hospital. He is still there today.


“Oh my God, I was out of my mind — there was no understanding of what was happening,” he recalled in a recent interview from the hospital, rubbing his fists against his temples.
“I’m angry, because I tried to get help in the Marines,” he said. “I knew something was wrong, but everybody just kind of blew it off.”

‘Damaged, very damaged’​


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Sgt. Javier Ortiz held the cap from an artillery round that his gun crew fired in Syria.Credit...Matthew Callahan for The New York Times

When Lance Corporal Ortiz started seeing a ghost a few days after returning from Syria in 2017, it didn’t occur to him that he had been hurt by his own cannon. Instead, he was convinced that the enemy had put a hex on him.

He tried to purify himself by lighting a fire on the beach near Camp Pendleton and burning his old combat gloves and journal from the deployment. But after the ashes cooled, the ghost was still there.
For the next four years, he tried to play down his problems and make a career in the Marine Corps. He started a family. He was promoted to sergeant. He received a diagnosis of P.T.S.D. and was given various medications, but his panic attacks and hallucinations persisted. He started to have problems with his heart and digestion, too.
He eventually asked for a transfer to a special medical battalion set up to give Marines who are wounded in combat a place to recover. But there was little in his record to suggest that he had seen combat or been wounded. His request was denied.

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Mr. Ortiz was plagued by headaches, depression, anxiety and hallucinations after deploying to Syria, but he struggled to receive help from the Marine Corps.Credit...Matthew Callahan for The New York Times

One Friday night in October 2020, he was having visions that ghosts were trying to pull him into another dimension. He stretched out naked on his kitchen floor, hoping that the cool touch of the tiles would restore his grip on reality. It didn’t work. In a panic, he called a cousin who had served in Iraq. His cousin said that what always worked for his P.T.S.D. was marijuana.

Sergeant Ortiz bought some at a civilian dispensary. Though using marijuana is a crime in the military, he took a few puffs, relaxed and went to sleep.
The next Monday, he admitted to his commanding officer what he had done. He apologized and told her that he had already referred himself to a Marine substance abuse program.
The Marine Corps has regulations to ensure that Marines who break the rules because of P.T.S.D. or brain injuries are not punished for their missteps if their condition makes them unfit for duty. But records show that the Marine Corps decided Sergeant Ortiz had no qualifying injuries.
In 2021, he was forced out for willful misconduct and given an other-than-honorable discharge that cut him off from access to therapy, medication, disability payments and other support intended for wounded veterans.

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A man stands in a living room holding a young girl in his arms. A mottled gray dog standing near his feet gazes at a video screen on the wall.

Mr. Ortiz was given an other-than-honorable discharge that cut him off from therapy, medication, disability payments and veterans benefits. He has not been able to hold a job or pay bills.Credit...Matthew Callahan for The New York Times

This spring, he and his family were squatting in a house in Kissimmee, Fla., that was going through foreclosure. The lights were off and the kitchen sink was overflowing with dishes. He stammered as he tried to recount his experiences, with a memory he says is now full of blanks.

He has two young children, and has struggled to hold a job. Bills have piled up. The headaches are crushing, he said, and he feels that his memory is becoming worse. When asked about the apparition of the dead girl, he started to cry and lowered his voice so his wife wouldn’t hear. He admitted that he still saw the ghost. And other things.

“I gave the Marine Corps everything,” he said. “And they spit me out with nothing. Damaged, damaged, very damaged.”


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Ukrainian naval drones attacked Russian Serna landing boats. Footage of an attack by Ukrainian naval kamikaze drones on Russian landing boats of Project 11770 “Serna” has been published. According to Ukrainian media, the drone attack took place tonight in the waters of Crimea. It is not reported where the boats of the Serna project were located. The quality of the video is quite poor, but judging by the footage, one of the boats was definitely damaged by a Ukrainian drone strike. There are no details about the attack yet, and the model of the Ukrainian drone used is unknown. Landing boats of Project 11770 “Serna” began to be produced in 1993; the boat is equipped with a water-jet propulsion system and is capable of transporting a tank, 92 troops or two infantry fighting vehicles. Now Russia has 16 such boats.

 

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Germany's decoupling from Russian energy in a year since

Economic prospects fall to “historic low” in Germany as expert council urges energy investments​

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Chancellor Scholz (centre), cabinet colleagues and the economic advisors at the annual report's presentation. Photo: Bundesregierung/Jesco Denzel


Leading German economists have urged more innovation and investments to put the country that is still grappling with the fallout of the energy crisis and inflation back on a growth track. The German Council of Economic Experts forecasts Germany's GDP to decline by 0.4 percent in 2023 before growing again by 0.7 percent in 2024. At the same time, council member Monika Grimm said heavy subsidies to lower the electricity price for energy intensive companies are inadequate, as these would only “slow the transformation of non-competitive industries.” Chancellor Olaf Scholz said his government's recent initiative to remove bureaucratic hurdles to energy and infrastructure investments would entirely be in line with the experts' recommendations.
The fallout of the energy crisis and Germany’s shrinking purchasing power continue to weigh on the country’s economic recovery, the Council of Economic Experts (Wirtschaftsweise) has found in its annual report.

Germany’s GDP will likely contract by 0.4 percent in 2023, with a moderate growth of 0.7 percent expected in the following year, the report found. “The mid-term growth prospects have fallen to a historic low,” the council said when presenting its annual report to the government.
The council, consisting of five leading economists, considers the situation to be more concerning than the government’s own projections. Besides inflation, which is estimated to reach 6.1 percent this year and fall to 2.6 percent in 2024, “clear hurdles to growth” are ageing capital stock, a lower volume of labour and a lack of innovation in companies, found the council. At the same time, the weakness of export markets, notably China, also continue to dampen the recovery, the council added.

“In order to overcome this weak growth situation, Germany must invest in its future,” said the council’s chair, Monika Schnitzer. As a large part of the country’s labour force is set to drop out of the labour market in the next years, investments in innovation and productivity are needed to compensate for the loss of workers, Schnitzer argued. Moreover, the economists said the country should consider coupling the pension age to life expectancy and reforming the pension system overall.
They urged the government to foster investments in digitalisation and energy infrastructure, create reliable conditions for decarbonisation measures, and assist citizens that struggle financially with a “flat-rate climate benefit” payments (so-called Klimageld) and targeted financial aid in case of a crisis.
Fears of a greater economic slump for Germany have been widespread with the emergency of the energy crisis and Russia’s war on Ukraine, which pulled the plug on the country’s cheap access to Russian gas. However, the economy already during the summer looked set to remain on a low-growth track even as factors such as price inflation and supply chain problems were receding.

While the transition towards low-carbon production amid high fossil fuel prices is seen as a great challenge for Europe’s biggest economy and the EU’s industrial competitiveness, there are also widespread expectations that a resolute shift ultimately will benefit the industry. Despite the ongoing challenges in getting GDP growth back on track, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) projects Germany to eclipse Japan and become the world’s third biggest economy by nominal GDP in 2023.

Germany not right location to produce large quantities of green hydrogen for industry - Grimm​

However, council member Monika Grimm insisted that a government-funded lower electricity price for industry should not be part of a recovery programme. “It would not be low enough to domestically produce energy-intensive intermediary products in a competitive way. But it would still be low enough to slow the transformation of non-competitive industries,” Grimm said in an interview with newspaper Die Welt. She added that “Germany is not the right location” for producing large quantities of green hydrogen for industrial purposes. Companies and policymakers should therefore focus on creating viable import conditions for the synthetic gas “to keep a large part of the complex value creation chain that rests on it in the country,” she continued.
Chancellor Olaf Scholz said the government had understood the need to invest in a swift escape from the dip in GDP, stressing that the council had explicitly lauded his government’s response to the energy crisis. “It’s important that we learn from this and tackle our problems quickly,” said Scholz. He pointed to the fast implementation of alternative natural gas import options after the end of Russian deliveries in the context of the ongoing invasion of Ukraine.
The chancellor argued that the ‘Pact for Germany’, which his government had agreed on with the country’s 16 states, would serve exactly this purpose. “This is one of the drivers to leave the weak growth phase behind us,” argued Scholz. Investments in hydrogen, battery production, climate neutral industries and the power grid could all help the country recover more quickly, he said, adding that Germany will also have to simplify the immigration process for skilled workers to counter losses in the labour force.
 

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Germany 🇩🇪 will double the amount of military aid to Ukraine that they had initially intended to send in 2024. The original plan for Germany was to send $4 Billion usd in military aid in 2024, but Germany has decided to double the amount of aid that they will send to $8 Billion.


Canada 🇨🇦 has asked its parliament for a further $500 million to support Ukraine. The money will be spent on firearms, hi-tech drone cameras, pilot training, tank maintenance and basic training for Ukrainians in Britain, for Operation Unifier.


Despite all the noise about the West giving up on Ukraine, financial support not only continues, it will ramp up in 2024. Mark my words. Ukraine will have a $150 Billion+ dollar war chest in 2024. The materials that will yield is more than enough to ensure Ukraine's continued existence and will continue to decimate Russia's Soviet stockpile, which it's burning through at an alarming pace, as evidenced by its need to rely on North Korea for artillery rounds to maintain it's artillery capabilities in the war.
 
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Only way Ukraine can win this war if they take out Russia's military factories.

The problem is they are tucked far away.

1. Correct, they are so far away
2. Ukraine currently doesn't have missiles that can go that far
3. The U.S. (very likely) prohibits the use of US missiles to strike Russia, note that the ATACMS are fired toward Crimea, a Western recognized Ukrainian territory.
 

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1. Correct, they are so far away
2. Ukraine currently doesn't have missiles that can go that far
3. The U.S. (very likely) prohibits the use of US missiles to strike Russia, note that the ATACMS are fired toward Crimea, a Western recognized Ukrainian territory.

Strategic bombers the problem with that nowadays due to advanced air defence systems along with layers upon layers those bombers would easily get destroyed.

Drones wont able to reach there even if they dont wont able to much damage.

Russia is really too big I can see why the Germans, French, Ottomans, Poles and Swedes all lost to them. Russia is just too big that land mass is just a nightmare.

Even if Ukraine took out Moscow and St Petersburg then you have their factories tucked away in the Urals and Siberia.

This war is going to end up like the Iran-Iraq war. A stalemate with no sides taking a win both sides will incur heavy losses.
 

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Strategic bombers the problem with that nowadays due to advanced air defence systems along with layers upon layers those bombers would easily get destroyed.

Air defense could be overcome, but it would take time. As the war grinds on, it's the Russians who will prevail in the sky. Yes, air defense is a huge barrier to overcome by both parties. But for Russia, they have a working aviation and electronics industry that tried to solve the problem of overcoming air defense.

First, they introduced the UMPK glide kit, which only fixes certain problems, and now as we speak the Russians are developing a new family of ISR pods to improve their detection and acquisition targeting in the frontline.


Can't say the same about Ukraine, which defense industries still not yet recovered from the bombings. My guess is that it would take Russia 3 years minimum to find a way to overcome Ukrainian air defense, and after that, all hell breaks loose.
 

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This war is going to end up like the Iran-Iraq war. A stalemate with no sides taking a win both sides will incur heavy losses.

In the Iran-Iraq war, although a stalemate on the ground, in the sky the IQAF increasingly dominated the sky every passing year due to the embargo on Iran's American made warbirds, and its Scud missile wreaks havoc, this + the Al-Faw campaign in 1988 is what finally broke the spirit of the Iranians and forced them into peace.

So I guess Russia will find a way to overcome the Ukrainian air defense first, then bomb Ukraine into submission both by missile and air strike, before again launching a nationwide offensive to conquer the country.

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It's crazy to think that in the 1980s the Iraqi air force fighter targeting is more advanced than what Russia has in the early war up to today.

 

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