Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Gary]

I am not blind on Zelensky, I never liked him and my presumption is that he is a wannabe dictator. But it is just a presumption, nothing has been proven yet. What his political rivals say about him is irrelevant, because in politics people will always say bad things about you if there is disagreement.

As for Zelensky being a dictator, for this to happen you need two things:
1) For him to want to be a dictator (let’s presume he wants to)
2) For him to be able to use the system in a way that keeps him in power forever (this remains to be seen in the following years)

Ahh now from Zelensky is not a dictator at all to slowly recognizing him as trying to act as one. Nice progression there.

Many politicians in democratic countries are wannabe dictators, but because the system is stronger then them, they fail. This is why you have the separation of powers in a democracy.

What makes Russia a dictatorship is the fact that Putin was able to retain power despite the fact that initially the constitution banned him from seving a third term, just like in the case of Hugo Chavez and Xi Jinping. When leaders are able to change the constitution in order to remain in power, because the constitution prohibited them from keeping the power, that’s when a democracy is turned into a dictatorship.

Look man, just because the actors in the system are YET to breach the system, doesn't mean they're in any way accurate measurements, sometimes all it takes is one hint.

The U.S. for example acted like they needed Congress permission to export weapons abroad, which is why Ukraine doesn't get the aid they wanted (because the Republicans torpedoed it every time). But you could see that the system doesn't prevent the Americans from sending aid to Israel by circumventing the congress.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/08/politics/state-department-congress-tank-munitions-sale/index.html

The US State Department transmitted an emergency declaration to lawmakers late Friday night for the sale of thousands of munitions to Israel, the agency announced, bypassing the standard 20-day period that congressional committees are typically afforded to review such a sale.​

That's double standard and a breach of standard at the same time, that's all we need to know that the systems you're so proud of exist as a mere facade, readily thrown into the bin whenever the politicians deemed necessary. Of course they will try to make it legitimate by pointing some state dept power as loopholes to send aid to israel bypassing congress, but you get the idea.

So again this democracy of the West is just mere facade, there's no difference than the one we saw in China and Russia.

Rashida Tlaib was not jailed and tortured, like it would have happened to her if she was in Russia and have spoken against the war. In the US, the reaction to her was a resolution that was voted with a small margin of only 234-188 after being debated and her being allowed to support her point of view. There was also a failed resolutiom before that, so the attempt didn’t even pass the first time.

I mean, could you kill a fly with a grenade? Sure you can, but why would you?

Rashida Tlaib is not yet powerful enough to make the difference in foreign policy act of the United States w.r.t israel, if she does, there's every reason to believe that the U.S and it's jewish lobby will use all kinds of methods including violence and torture to get rid of her, the same way Russia is "reportedly" doing with its own dissidents.

Right now when just merely silencing her is deemed enough why would you escalate?

You are really dishonest if you are trying to make an equivalent between the political freedom in the US and the one in Russia. The US system is far from being perfect, and it has its problems, but it is a lot better and allows far more freedom than the political system in Russia. Yes, they have some things in common, but all the differences are in the favor of the US.

The one that keeps finding excuses is you pal LOL. If the U.S is good at something, it's making a facade and turning illegal act looks acting legit. This is my acknowledgement that they are way ahead of anyone in town.

The big difference is that whenever a country in the so called “West” does the same things as Russia, there is popular blowback, protests and a very solid pushback from the population and part of the media. This is because the population is more educated and less brainwashed, and it doesn’t support genocide (There are some people who do, but not the majority).

You won’t see mass protests in support of Ukraine happening in Russia, like you’ve seen protests in support of the Palestinians in the West.

Oh really? France has banned pro-Palestinian protests, the UK banned the waving of Palestinian flags and Germany introduced law where they force people (mainly from Muslim countries) to basically recognize Israel under threat of the evocation of their citizenship.

In Russia they jail you, in the West they make life so difficult for you, until you basically have to submit to pressure. It's practically the same goal different method.

What bothered people in the West about the Russian behavior is the fact that it had total popular support. The average Russian was ok with the indiscriminate killing of civilians, and you saw on Russian TV people speaking freely about nuking countries and committing genocide.

And you guys are any different ? HAHA. I've watched people who used to be so critical of Russia's conduct both in Syria and Ukraine like Julian Roepcke suddenly turns into the most vile genocide supporters of Israel, people that used to think be very good at fact checking Russian disinfo suddenly throwing away their masks and rallied behind Israel without questioning the validity of the reports coming from politicians like Netanyahu.

 

[Gary]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1738712563754410163

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

Oh really? France has banned pro-Palestinian protests, the UK banned the waving of Palestinian flags and Germany introduced law where they force people (mainly from Muslim countries) to basically recognize Israel under threat of the evocation of their citizenship.

@Gary maybe they shouldnt call for sharia law and rampaging through streets of european peoples country maybe they should act like humans everyday islamist refugees in france or UK rape or stab civilians stop complaining about bans while acting like isis members ok?

audacity coming from muslims who live abroad call for sharia attack the police of french thats why you guys got banned hope to see more actions taken against islamist action, ever think that there is a problem with muslims abroad thats why people don't like them.

 

[Gary]

Oh really? France has banned pro-Palestinian protests, the UK banned the waving of Palestinian flags and Germany introduced law where they force people (mainly from Muslim countries) to basically recognize Israel under threat of the evocation of their citizenship.

@Gary maybe they shouldnt call for sharia law and rampaging through streets of european peoples country maybe they should act like humans everyday islamist refugees in france or UK rape or stab civilians stop complaining about bans while acting like isis members ok?

audacity coming from muslims who live abroad call for sharia attack the police of french thats why you guys got banned hope to see more actions taken against islamist action, ever think that there is a problem with muslims abroad thats why people don't like them.

All this rant and you can't stop an islamist getting elected in your own country.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

All this rant and you can't stop an islamist to get elected in your own country.

Lol you couldnt even give a answer couldnt expect less maybe obsses with israel more? or torture papuans

 

[Gary]

At this point of the war, no one can dream of massive advances and gaining large swathes of land anymore, not Ukraine and not Russia, that train passed last year.

Considering that Zelensky has a maximalist goal (the retaking of the entirety of Ukraine all the way to the 1991 border and looking at the very successful use of the defensive line (Surovikin line) to stop any advance, it's only logical that any future Russian offensive action is in the sole aim to expand the defensive line even further, not necessarily about gaining more towns and populations, but merely to increase the line in which Ukrainian soldiers must cross. Thereby exhausting them in the long run.

For example, If Avdiivka and its coke factory fell, that means more land, trenches and fortifications for Ukraine to cross in 2024, 2025 ...and so on.

As I said before, their effort is futile, they would never get back into their 1991 border. Seems like more and more media is urging about letting go.

" The government of Ukraine currently remains steadfast in its maximalist aims of recovering all of its internationally recognized territory, including Crimea, which was annexed by Russia in 2014. Military reality, however, suggests that this goal is extremely unlikely to be achieved and that an agreement freezing the existing battle lines may well be the best that Kyiv can hope for, at least for the present.​

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On the other hand, if the war continues, Russia’s massive advantages in manpower, industry, and weapons production could lead to far more significant Ukrainian losses — just as Finland would likely have suffered complete disaster if it had continued to fight after March 1940 or September 1944."​

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Ukraine should take a page out of Finland’s fight with Stalin

Helsinki had to sacrifice territory for autonomy, but its pride and prosperity soared

responsiblestatecraft.org

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[Gary]

2024 will be a deciding year on the fate of Ukraine. Some key events to look at in 2024:

1. U.S. presidential election
2. Portugal's right-wing bloc, supported by the far-right Chega (Enough), has the best chance of forming the next government.
3. UK general election

The most important to look at is the U.S. presidential election where Biden is embattled with low ratings compared to Trump, excarcerbated by his poor handlings on the Gaza war and the threat of swing states that could decisively dethrone him to Trump. By the look of it somewhere starting February or earlier we will see Biden's attention getting more and more absorbed toward domestic politics and how to win the re-election in November, meaning less and less time for foreign issues and even less for Ukraine compared to Gaza.

Biden approval rating numbers dismal compared to previous modern presidents, Gallup finds

President Biden is experiencing worse approval ratings at this point in his term than any other modern president reaching back to Jimmy Carter, according to a Gallup poll.

www.foxnews.com

Muslims in the swing states and young voters could prove to be the king maker when it comes to Biden as they are key in those swing states. I'm thinking that Biden will be busy trying to win hearts in those demographic groups.

Group of swing state Muslims vows to ditch Biden in 2024 over his war stance

Some claim that Biden’s unwillingness to call for a ceasefire has damaged his relationship with the American Muslim community beyond repair.

whyy.org

How Much Is Biden’s Support of Israel Hurting Him With Young Voters?

Donald Trump leads him among those 18 to 29, a new poll shows.

www.nytimes.com

The UK labour is not goint to significantly alter the foreign policy trajectory of Britain in regards to Russia, but still likely means less and less time for everyone to think about foreign issues.

Portugal's right wing is on the rise, which seems to be the trend in Europe these days with the rise of the likes of Fico, Orban and Geert. Right wingers has a habit of sabotaging European efforts in regards to Ukraine.

In short 2024 will be the year when everyone will be busy with their own, Russia's effort in the media sphere between January and before the November elections could prove detrimental if they are to finish the job or not.

 

[contricusc]

So again this democracy of the West is just mere facade, there's no difference than the one we saw in China and Russia.

There is no point debating with you. If you think Western democracies are the same as Russia and China, you are a lost cause. Just don’t forget to remind me when the US president changes the constitution in order to get a third term.

And you guys are any different ? HAHA. I've watched people who used to be so critical of Russia's conduct both in Syria and Ukraine like Julian Roepcke suddenly turns into the most vile genocide supporters of Israel, people that used to think be very good at fact checking Russian disinfo suddenly throwing away their masks and rallied behind Israel without questioning the validity of the reports coming from politicians like Netanyahu.

Those who criticize Putin and support Netanyahu are either propagandists, hypocrites or just brainwashed sheep.

 

[Ryder]

Ukraine has to walk on eggshells just to get aid approved while Israel easily gets it with ease lmaoooo

 

[Gary]

Putin got an ICC arrest warrant for this, I can't believe it.

Meanwhile Western darling Netanyahu get's away with killing 20,000 people, most of which childrens

International Criminal Court seems determined not to prosecute Israel for Gaza war crimes: Ex-UN rapporteur

‘Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, his war Cabinet, and many members of the Israeli army are responsible for war crimes, crimes against humanity and, possibly, the crime of genocide,’ says former UN special rapporteur John Dugard - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[mehmed beg]

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Lol you couldnt even give a answer couldnt expect less maybe obsses with israel more? or torture papuans

Lol you couldnt even give a answer couldnt expect less maybe obsses with israel more? or torture papuans

What I know about the real M Robespierre, I am completely sure that, defencehub Robespierre would had definitely been guillotined.
Whatever he was , 2 things he didn't like at all.
1 atheists
2 people who shilled in any shape of form for anybody but French.

 

[GoatsMilk]

They bring out Israel wheneber try to hide russian invasion LOL Russia killed same amount of muslims as israel.

third worlders mainly from Islands support russia to death, the user who is from those Island was anti russian 6 months ago now he is all for russia cuz muh israel hypocrisy coming from muslim world is funny they cheer whenever non muslims die but go we wuz innocent when they get the same, ukrwainians aren't innocent but palestinians are right?

Russians have slaughtered countless millions of Muslims, maybe the no 1 killer of Muslims, definitely the number 1 occupier of Muslims today. 90% of what we call Russia only a few hundred years ago was Muslims lands and territories. 500 years ago Russia was no more then a principality of Moscow.

If Muslims today can be comfortable with Russia, i suspect eventually they will get comfortable with Isreal if she were to annex the entire milddle east in the next 100 to 200 years. Just like they are comfortable with China annexing Muslims lands and geocoding their peoples. The Muslim will bark, but they will get comfortable with the new status quo as they have done for the past few hundred years.

Muslim civilisation for the most part has turned into a joke, its 3rd world status is well earned. Nothing to do with Allah that, its to do the followers of the religion predominantly. The worst being that fatalistic mindset that accepts that weak impoverished uneducated situation, as if that's how Allah would ordain it. The rest of the world can progress and prosper, but the Muslim is to accept his terrible condition.

The truth about Isreal, is most Muslims just hate Jews, had it been Russians wiping out Muslims as they have done throughout history, not only would they not care but they will actively shill for Russia. Losers, but their position in the world is seen by all. Weak and insignificant as seen over Gaza. A few million Jews and the 1.5 billion Muslims can't do anything except put on little distractions that strategically chance nothing.

Then to make matters worse any nation that tried to improve herself, her hordes of uneducated bigots cry like leftists about how they were oppressed by the secular system. Losers and losers they shall remain.

Imagine they want Turks to help Palestine, but at the same time they cheer on Russia wanting her to win in her invasions. But the growth of Russia detrimentally effects Turkish sovereignty and power projection. How can Turks help anyone if she has to content with a new soviet union on her borders. These people are so dumb. Absolute losers, no wonder the white man conquered them all.

 

[mehmed beg]

Well , I saw in Sarajevo, between between 1992 to 95 both Ukrainians and Russians. Helping brother Serbs .
In that case, they were the real brothers.
Funny enough these days, someone can see a lot of Ukrainian and Israeli flags together. Demyanuk and Yakir have become the best buddies.
Anyway, when the Jews came to Bosnia or Ottoman Empire, they needed the permission of the officials.

Edit in 1921 famine in Crimea and 1933 in Kazakhstan all these guys above were responsible. Though it must be said that the small hats were leading the charge

 

[UkroTurk]

HESCO Barriers In Aid Package Indicate Shift In Ukraine’s War Strategy

The most recent aid package was discussed in the December 12 meeting between Ukrainian President Zelensky and American President Biden. A subsequent statement from the State Department enumerated the content of this aid, including a large amount of munitions, demolition equipment, and HESCO barriers.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

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What I know about the real M Robespierre, I am completely sure that, defencehub Robespierre would had definitely been guillotined.
Whatever he was , 2 things he didn't like at all.
1 atheists
2 people who shilled in any shape of form for anybody but French.

Im not an atheist maybe change the beg on your name?

 

[Gary]

Yeah killing journalist that exposes your criminally suspicious activity sounds like what democracies did the whole time.

Investigative Journalist Mohammed Al-Alawi Found Dead Following Exposé on Ukrainian President's Family

Journalist Mohammed Al-Alawi, who investigated the acquisition of a $5 million villa by Ukrainian President's mother-in-law, was found dead under suspicious circumstances.

bnnbreaking.com

Investigative journalist Mohammed Al-Alawi, known for his exposé into the opulent villa purchase by Olga Kiyashko, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s mother-in-law, was found dead under circumstances that have incited international concern. The luxury villa, valued at an estimated $5 million, is situated in the prestigious El Gouna VIP resort in Egypt, colloquially referred to as the ‘Egyptian Venice.’

 

[Kartal1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739459656697655726

 

[Ryder]

I think the reason why Russia gets so much because Russia along with China supported a lot of the anti colonial independant movements.

A lot of the global south see no problem with supporting Russia.

Might be contradictory as Russia invades Ukraine but I guess colonialism has left such a legacy that a lot of former colonies support the Enemy rather than being with their colonial masters.

Dutch colonised Indonesia. Dutch were pretty brutal and ruthless that the Indonesians were pretty happy when the Germans invaded the Netherlands.

Then they teamed up with the Japanese against the Dutch.

Russia only colonised Central Asia, Caucasus, Siberia and Alaska. These territories were mainly close to Russia rather than a global colonial enterprise.

Russians never went into South America, Asia and Africa.

 

[Ryder]

As Turks seriously we actually dislike both the West and Russia.

Because we have a lot of historical grievances against them which still continues today.

Only supporting Ukraine to spite Russia not for the EU or the USA. USA has worked with Russia against Turkiye numerous times.

 

[Lordimperator]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739465305842160030

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1739533913641677214