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At least he didn't blew up our 34 soldier
I dont think he meant that Turkey should just go to Russia's side. I believe he meant that not to completely believe everything the West or Ukraine says

Lets not forget that at the start of the invasion, there were many fake videos showing Ukranian soldiers kicking ass and Putin massacaring citizenes here and there in the first 3 days of the war just in order to pit the public opinion against Russia

I mean, rn, they are pleading to the international community about how peace-loving they are and how the Russians are killing innocent Europeans and how the world should show it solidarity but just watch what the peaceful Ukranian soldiers are doing to immigrants who are trying to escape Ukraine

Racism is rampant through all of the West. Those who arent of Western lineage are generally deemed as inferior human beings. What @Ravenman wanted to say is that the Ukranians thought of Turks as ppl who are in the inferior human beings category just not too long. Only when you supplied them with weapons that they started to show some respect to you.... but be careful, since they might revert to their true nature after the war ends

And yes, for those who may ask, I truly hate Zelensky but Iam against the invasion in general


Just look at this, truly horrendous👇

 

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The swine next to Assad is also the one who got captured earlier today- we saw his photos. Now Ukrainians will make him cry like a bitch while in captivity, be sure about it. These sons of bitches made hundreds of mothers and children cry in Aleppo and were now sent to do the same in Ukraine too so there will be no mercy on them.

ps To see pilots from Syria now being used in Ukraine maybe speaks bad for the Russian Air Force as well. Maybe the number of battle ready pilots and planes isn't as big as presented by Russia at all.
Not to mention this is another eye opener for Assad and Iran. Let’s see if this makes Assad come to Turkey.
 

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- Turkey didnt put sanctions on Russia.
- Turkey didnt close its airspace for Russia.
- Turkey closed the Straits for US, UK, France etc but not for Russia because they are a coastal state and this doesnt harm the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

And Turkey is pushed and constantly being dragged into this conflict by:

1. Zelensky (tweets and lies about Turkish support)

2. USA (they called us more in this week than in the whole of 2021)

3. Macron & Trudeau (suddenly they forgot that we are a 'dictatorial regime' and we are BFF now)

4. EU (lot of reports and articles about TB2 and the Straits, they suddenly forgot 'human rights abuse' and 'undemocratic meassures')

The Russian Federation shouldt forget Turkey's stance in this conflicts when the war is over. Russia should close the PKK office in Moscow and give Turkey a free passage in Syria to clean the YPG out of that land and settle things with Syria and Armenia.
@Manomed this is what I meant in my previous post👆

Never ever believe the West too much
Throughout turkish history, one of the main reasons for the fall of the turks have been in placing great (more than what is normal) trust in the West
 

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Strong doubt. Really strong doubt on this one. Ukraine struggled with the separatists for years. How are they going to manage this?
Ukraine didn’t have an army back in 2014. The past 8 years have given Ukraine chance to conscript and build an army also field them on Donbass frontline and give them experience. Now they’re frontline against Russia.

Ukraine didn’t have TB2 or anything in 2014, you think the current Ukraine armed forces with TB2 capability isn’t able to wipe off the seperatists in Donbas ?

The only thing holding them back is the civilians and the threat of Russia. But when Russia falls that’s when it’ll be the time to take it back. Russian nukes are atm the only threat. But if Russia ever gets new ussr free government, they’ll pull back from quite a few of the areas or they’ll never get free of the sanctions.
 

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Ukraine didn’t have an army back in 2014. The past 8 years have given Ukraine chance to conscript and build an army also field them on Donbass frontline and give them experience. Now they’re frontline against Russia.

Ukraine didn’t have TB2 or anything in 2014, you think the current Ukraine armed forces with TB2 capability isn’t able to wipe off the seperatists in Donbas ?

The only thing holding them back is the civilians and the threat of Russia. But when Russia falls that’s when it’ll be the time to take it back. Russian nukes are atm the only threat. But if Russia ever gets new ussr free government, they’ll pull back from quite a few of the areas or they’ll never get free of the sanctions.

Good points, but Russia is there now too. It all depends on Russia falling.
 

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I wonder why those Bayraktars aren't used to bomb the Russian fleet amassing in Odessa. A few correct hit on the transport ship would set every cargo inside ablaze and prolly decimate Russian navy ability to do amphibious op for years to come.
 

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What I find alarming in all this is there is no debate on whether Russian security concerns are genuine or not. Demonizing Russia seems to be the only thing here. I don’t support any war but there is an urgent need to ceasefire and analyze whether Ukraine/NATO brought it upon themselves. Of course Russians are no saint and have done some ghastly stuff in other countries but in this war theater, is Russia justified or not? All parties must ceasefire and the UN must openly debate this. Else this war is going to cause heave damage to the entire world. Russia cannot be brought to its knees that easily. Looks like Putin is ok with the oligarchs losing their wealth and his own survival being at stake. That says he has some very strong motive behind his actions - to the point of being ok with taking Russia’s development backwards by decades. Maybe Putin being beholden to oligarchs is another propaganda. We shall see.
What you fail to understand and adress is that Russia has been aggressive and refused to talk or mend ties with Ukraine ever since his pet dog dictator from Ukraine was ousted during a revolution. Instrad he opted to support seperatists and invaded Crimea and annexxed it, then he decided to invade the country under lies.

imagine if it was kashmir and you were told to appease and show concern for the muslims there.
 

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More Russian telegram channels

Supposed destroyed Ukrainian armor column

https://t-me.translate.goog/s/istorijaoruzija?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=sk&_x_tr_pto=wapp English translation

https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/40217 - original Telegram channel

Apparent plans and documents captured in Gostomel by Russia ? https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/40161

another channel


Some of these telegrams must be linked to the Russian government IMO
 

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What you fail to understand and adress is that Russia has been aggressive and refused to talk or mend ties with Ukraine ever since his pet dog dictator from Ukraine was ousted during a revolution. Instrad he opted to support seperatists and invaded Crimea and annexxed it, then he decided to invade the country under lies.

imagine if it was kashmir and you were told to appease and show concern for the muslims there.
this had Russia not invaded , Ukraine would have been neutral its Russian invasion and involvement that send Ukraine totally on the anti Russian side .
russia screwed up and now to corrige theirs previous screw up they are screwing up even harder
 

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Zelensky is a liar. Two times now its confirmed that he is just putting oil at the fire.

1. First he placed a tweet where he thanked President Erdogan for closing the Straits. The Turkish FM immediately debunked this and Turkey closed the Straits 1 week later.

2. Second, in the night of thursday he screamed and yelled that the nuclaer central was hit and attacked by Russian artillery and that it would be a bigger disaster than Chernobil. Than it appeared that not the central, but a training facility was attacked, near the central.

Putin and Zelenskey are both scum of the earth. Turkey must stay neutral and must not put a finger in this Slavic mess.
 

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