Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[Ravenman]

The Comedian is making the same stupid mistake as Assad. He know he cant win, but he is getting his own people butchered.

He must step aside before those Russians go Aleppo 2.0 and flatten all cities.

 

[Bogeyman]

 

[Hexciter]

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[goldsilver]

The price for Russia's aggression should be Kaliningrad...

 

[Barzani]

At least they have a state

??? I have state too. Not sure why you both are attacking me personally for sharing what the Russian side of things say - I clearly stated this is what the Russian's are saying and provided the telegram links as a resource. Do you say this to Iranian Azeri's and Uyghurs? or Crimean Tatars?

 

[Manomed]

The Comedian is making the same stupid mistake as Assad. He know he cant win, but he is getting his own people butchered.

He must step aside before those Russians go Aleppo 2.0 and flatten all cities.

You would give out chunk of turkey to Russians If they Invaded us too lol

 

[Manomed]

??? I have state too. Not sure why you both are attacking me personally for sharing what the Russian side of things say - I clearly stated this is what the Russian's are saying and provided the telegram links as a resource. Do you say this to Iranian Azeri's and Uyghurs? or Crimean Tatars?

I just didn't liked you attacking bosnians. crimean tatars and uyghurs did had states and Iranian azeris do have a state in caucaus called azerbaijan.

 

[Barzani]

I just didn't liked you attacking bosnians. crimean tatars and uyghurs did had states and Iranian azeris do have a state in caucaus called azerbaijan.

He attacked me first and I gave him an example of Bosnians doing to Yugoslavia exactly what he accused me of doing with his weird and vague generalizations.

If he doesn't like it he can think before he speaks next time.

 

[Ravenman]

You would give out chunk of turkey to Russians If they Invaded us too lol

The Comedian doesnt have a justified democratic fanbase in Ukraine. He won the rigged elections with help of Ukrainian oligarch Ihor Kolomoyski and Tiktok-crowd (age between 18-30) because his serious opponents were outgunned due to massive social media power, US dollars and European lobbywork.

He is like the mayor of Istanbul, turning his country into disaster and crying for help from a safe room in the Ukrainian embassy in Poland. Time for new elections in Ukraine with real politicians.

 

[Isa Khan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500574776762511363

 

[Isa Khan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500573643360854016

 

[BalkanTurk90]

We are seeing alot of Russian aircrafts shoot down !
How much are chances that west sent to Ukraine their SAMs , not stingers or other small one , but big one like Aster , or patriots ?!

 

[Hexciter]

Tik Tok has suspended all its services in Russia.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500545821409955855

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500523188324818948

 

[Nilgiri]

I will try not go off-topic while mentioning some issues. Sorry if there's typo in this.

You do know UN is a pretty useless organization, right? It couldn't do anything effective during Iraq invasion or Myanmar civil war and it's useless in this war too. It won't matter even if a small country like BD, mostly insignificant in global politics vote against Russia. It's basically Europe's issue and can only be solved by the West.

If BD vote against Russia it'll only damage BD-Russo relation. So it's pointless to criticize BD, India, Pakistan, Algeria and Vietnam's stance in this situation cause they all have pretty valid reasons to stay neutral. I think @Joe Shearer or @Nilgiri already explained India's stance on this somewhere here. Now why BD is neutral in this situation?

- First of all, our foreign policy. "Friendship towards all, malice towards none". Even when Russia votes against BD on Rohingya issue or neighbor like Myanmar is hostile, BD keeps maintaining good relation with them. Won't go further on this to avoid off-topic.

- Russia played significant role in our liberation war after India.

- Currently it's constructing a nuke plant, one of the mega projects in BD currently.

- But imports weapons from both country. Ukraine assists us in our Mi-17 MRO plant, it recently provided ATGM to BGB. But Russia is second major weapon exporter of BD. Currently Belarus is upgrading BAF's Mig-29 while Russia is providing AShM, PGM for it. Mi-28, Ak-15 will be procured.

- Russia has recently signed contract to build 2nd satellite for BD.

- Bilateral trade. (with both Ukraine and Russia)

There's perhaps more but i shared what came to my mind at the moment. So the point is it's best for BD to stay neutral as it maintains good relation with both countries though relationship is deeper with Russia. Just like Russian ambassador in BD said, "Best not to get involved in this".

So this incident may not effect much on BD-Russo relation. I guess, the situation is kinda same for other nations i mentioned above. Btw unconfirmed report says it was actually Ukraine responsible for this attack.

Lastly, the HYPOCRISY of the West and people. There are other places where conflicts/civil war are happening, war crimes are being committed but the West and the people are only sympathetic to Ukraine. Some of these Western countries even supply weapons for those conflicts, specially in ME.

Just like Russia they also invaded, destroyed many countries and have even their own war crimes but suddenly they grew a conscience about Ukraine invasion. While people are suffering in Myanmar, Syria, Yemen and other countries for years, air strikes on Burmese civilians are happening during Ukraine invasion too, the West took quick-strict actions and even supplied weapons in short time only for Ukraine.

This is may be a record. It looks like the West can end some wars in few days if they want but they won't. They just love to ravage small countries like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan but think twice before messing with someone of their own size. Still they face defeats in those small-weak countries. Not first time in history some farmers embarrassed an well-equipped powerful military.

So BD's decision to maintain neutrality on this issue was best idea instead of siding with these hypocrites and racist. Like i said at the beginning, it's basically Europe's issue and can only be solved by the West. So enjoy this momentary alliance and quick actions against one aggression (even though it's still not 100% effective) cause you won't see it very often.

Btw, this maybe a bit off-topic but I want to add it here. I see an interesting similarity between Ukrainian and Burmese people at the moment. When Myanmar junta cracked down on Rohingya, massacred them, while they were running for their lives, the Burmese people were silent on this.

They were torture for decades but suddenly during 2017's genocide the Burmese started calling them illegal Bangladeshis, black, pig etc in social media and supported the cracked down, Even Aung San Suu Kyi supported them and denied reports about genocide.

Now the same thing is happening to them and i often see them on social media requesting to help Myanmar. They even requested Rohingyas to fight for them against junta.

And Ukraine provided weapons to this junta, continued military cooperation even after all these cracked down, genocide and ethnic cleansing, provided ToT.

Now they face another aggressor just like Burmese junta who also indiscriminately kills civilians and destroys their homes. Just like the Burmese people, the Ukrainians are also requesting the world to help them. Ironic, isn't it?

Ukraine is arming the Myanmar military | Justice For Myanmar

Ukraine arms transfers are continuing, even after the Myanmar military has committed atrocity crimes following its illegitimate coup attempt.

www.justiceformyanmar.org

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Excellent post brother, I have saved it for time being to maybe get to a bit more on it later (maybe after dust settles and attentions turn more to deeper analysis).

But you are spot on about the hypocrisy factor.

i.e how time and time again it has been shown plainly to us that the world (in foreign relations) runs on transaction motive rather than any moral principle one first.

Huge majority of the world order is dictated by those with colonial subjugation history and continental conquest as backdrop to begin with.

Those of us that were colonised (and so much stolen and taken from us) and then sermoned to and had to deal with further hypocrisy after liberation....have to be plainly transactional back....there is no other way. Moral principle will have to live around the edges of that.....I wish it were different, but I have to be resigned to this reality when the scales go well past individual and personal conscience.

It is not for me to explain to you, a Bangladeshi for the particular brutal examples of hypocrisy wrought on you in this manner.

But you know what....I know your people deep down....they are brave, tough and wise when pushed up against wall....in ways most people in this forum really wont know too much about.

But it is those elements that Bangladeshis will have to harness to be firm in these headwinds approaching for however this global re-alignment shapes up.

 

[what]

The Comedian is making the same stupid mistake as Assad. He know he cant win, but he is getting his own people butchered.

He must step aside before those Russians go Aleppo 2.0 and flatten all cities.

If your country is attacked, you fight to the last nail. That comedian apparently has more gut and balls then you do.

 

[what]

The price for Russia's aggression should be Kaliningrad...

Dagestan, Tartastan etc should declare themselves independent if things go sour. Russia is using the natural ressources and literally human ressources to fight its dirty wars.

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500378345715941378

 

[Cypro]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1500546275455995904

 

[guest_07]

Assalamu'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh to Muslim.
Good day to Others.

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