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I wonder which movie the Russians are filming? If I now think to myself - the USA would be in the place of the Russians...
let's say Mexico would have joined the warsaw pact... and the Russians would have trained the Mexicans in PKK-like terror tactics for years...(they did in AFG 70's too)

The Americans would have - under the media blackout of the west (Europe, social media), etc. - bombed Mexico completely in terms of areal bombings.. with MOABs, etc.
Like they did in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and soooo many other countries - which dealt no thread to the USA, 10000km abroad - because of guerilla tactics - to minimize casualties... we won't forget agent orange e.g.

So @BlackandRed / @Russkis left in this forum: Why is Russia still using low-flying Helis? Why are they using frigates in front of the coasts? They have Subs with tons of long-range CMs, Hypersonic high attitude bombers, etc.
What is Russia doing? Scared of more sanctions? Because it wouldn't be any "special operation" anymore? Man - that time is over? What is the tactic? The plan?
Do we have just the western propaganda? Aren't there any Infos, plans? anything from the Russian side?
I'm becoming more skeptical every day...Either Russia is like IRAN... like dummy planes - tanks etc... or they don't want to engage in scorched earth war....
so weird...









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And from my side... Anger for what? Didn't the West fckd TR and AZ every time in any possible conflict? Pulling Bags over TR soldiers, kidnapping them, showing them off like animals? embargos cause of Cyprus? Sanctions because of AZ fighting for Karabagh, even though that is AZ lands - internationally recognized?
Didn't the west support our enemies the same way? muhhhh but North Syria - the M4 - Russia was bad to us... muhhh Idlib...
Didn't western intelligence help the YPG to fortify Afrin? with arming, positioning? concrete for bunkers? Let's talk about Manbij...
nooo brothers... I hope they will eat each other to the bone and TR should shut up and watch them like a movie...
Let Cancer kill AIDS in Ukraine, instead of in front of our doors... thousands of kilometers away... ochhhhh canima degsin...
It's like Russia is playing its part in a long-planned game for some resource and food shortage to fck the regular population around the world a lil' bit more - after 2 yrs of artificial covid theatre
What special operation?
Most of Russians and even Putin himself know that they can't sell the "special operation" joke to anyone since the second week of the invasion.
You seem to have taken this really personally for some reason.
Although there is nothing wrong with looking at the conflict from the Russian pov, it's absurd to defend their atrocities just because the US had done it before elsewhere.
I'm one of many who are aware of western hypocrisy, biased media coverage, atrocities committed all over the world but no one is cheering for them.
Russians also sided with the YPG and opened an office for them in Moscow. What's you point?
Russian oligarchs have saturated the terrorists of the world with Russian/Soviet weapons for decades.
Where do you think PKK/YPG "ideology" comes from? Thanks to Communism, we have scumbags like Öcalan shown as "freedom fighters".
We don't have to side with the west OR side with Russia. Please stop showing Russians as victims and enough with the whataboutism.

Cheers!
 

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What special operation?
Most of Russians and even Putin himself know that they can't sell the "special operation" joke to anyone since the second week of the invasion.
You seem to have taken this really personally for some reason.
Although there is nothing wrong with looking at the conflict from the Russian pov, it's absurd to defend their atrocities just because the US had done it before elsewhere.
I'm one of many who are aware of western hypocrisy, biased media coverage, atrocities committed all over the world but no one is cheering for them.
Russians also sided with the YPG and opened an office for them in Moscow. What's you point?
Russian oligarchs have saturated the terrorists of the world with Russian/Soviet weapons for decades.
Where do you think PKK/YPG "ideology" comes from? Thanks to Communism, we have scumbags like Öcalan shown as "freedom fighters".
We don't have to side with the west OR side with Russia. Please stop showing Russians as victims and enough with the whataboutism.

Cheers!
I think you took the small-written part personally and maybe misunderstood the content ... when I talk about CANCER and AIDS, then I mean it!! And when I take a stance like that, I do it quite consciously... if the whole thread is a one-sided lynching campaign, then I am someone who reacts differently on principle... and why am I putting things into perspective? Because every second person in this forum "dckhops" and acts as if there were nothing more unjust than Russia in the world, and as if the Ukrainians were our brothers and have always been on our side and ohhh dear and good West and ohhh the bad bad Russians...

I urge you not to read selectively, but to read every word I write...
when I say destroy each other to the bones in this proxy war, I mean it literally... I don't need users trying by hook or by crook to corner me, making me a partisan - I don't know where this immaturity of so many users comes from...

and if I put something in quotation marks "..." - as far as I know you speak german - then that signals something... I don't have to explain to you what I mean by that, you should know that as a responsible person...

I ask the Russian users that yall exterminated in this forum, what is said about this "special operation" in Russia and what tactics and plans for the ongoing war are sold to them...

And the reference to the USA was deliberately related to Vietnam... because in Indochina it was initially "a special operation to slow down communism and replace France as the guarantor power for the free world" too...

but when the losses increased (ambushes etc), the USA used weapons of mass destruction... and I ask - the "so educated and strategically thinking users" why Russia is not doing this yet... but is like putting their soldiers into a meat grinder...

FROM MY SIDE non-judgmental...Other than the most I'm really interested in both sides, unlike 99% - because the Ukrainians and Russians don't itch me 1% :)

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Russians promoted immensely Shtill SAM as ESSM variant.
Also very sad to see AK630 CIWS are useless since i am follower defence industry.
We feel deprived 🥺

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in video Poor Admiral Makarov (RIP) launching 9M317 SAMs
 
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General newspapers are quoting this article from Dumskaya local news agency from Odesa, which I've found quite acurate in the Moskva incident.
Seems one of it's sources confirmed this new incident with a frigate:

""Note that information about the explosion on the ship appeared in social networks last night. Today we received confirmation that such an incident actually happened""
 

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it seems Russian naval OSA and BUK variants have some serious problems as antiship missile interceptors.


Notice that just next to the incident there is S400 battery in the Crimea.


İ wonder if there were Admiral Gorshkov frigate , Naval S400 variant Redut SAM system could intercept Neptunes?
 
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Notice that just next to the incident there is S400 battery in the Crimea.
At the early stages of the war There were some news from Russian side about S400 intercepting neptune which is realy but realy highly unlikly i belive
 
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Turkish navy will dominate the Blacksea. We hold the gate to the Blacksea and we have the strongest navy in the Blacksea. It is our sea now.
Something that seems to finally become reality when the war is over - the best for TR strategical goals... but we have to be careful and keep our eyes open, that the US won't fill this occurring gap under the umbrella of "NATO presence"... otherwise we will have Lebra instead of Ebola inside the Black sea... Further, TR should AIM for more influence on the Tartar minority - as far as I know - the Turks weren't really free under the Ukrainians same as for the Russians***... if you consider that they make up 12,6% of the population (Crimean tartars and tartars combined)


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"As reported by the OSCE High Commissioner on National Minorities in August 2013, the return migration of the formerly deported minorities in Crimea led to social and economic tensions. There have been cases of hate speech, vandalism of religious sites, violent clashes, and widespread land occupations."

- OSCE High Commissioner on National Minorities (HCNM)
 
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