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Where were they when Russia expanded into Moldova, Chechnya and Georgia before Syria and Ukraine?

Because nobody gave a shot if Russia expanded in its own backyard as long as it did not clash with natos interests.

Now people are acting shockex with Russia attacking Ukraine. Russians have made it clear so many times thay want their old lands back along with dozens of warm water ports.
that guyg looks turanid.
 

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that guyg looks turanid.

Maybe he has Turcopole ancestors. Turks who were Christian and fought for the Crusaders.

They had a huge rivalry against the Mamluk Turks. Mamluks also executed Turcopoles for being apostates.
 

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Where were they when Russia expanded into Moldova, Chechnya and Georgia before Syria and Ukraine?

Because nobody gave a shit if Russia expanded in its own backyard as long as it did not clash with natos interests.
This is easy one. Four members of NATO and Ukraine, sent their presidents in the height of war to capital of Georiga ( Polish Lech Kaczynski, Lithuanian Valdas Adamkus, Ukranian Viktor Juštšenko ning Latvian Ivars Godmanis) to support the Georgian state:
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US sent his warships into GEorgia during the war to deliver humanitarian aid:
Now people are acting shockex with Russia attacking Ukraine. Russians have made it clear so many times thay want their old lands back along with dozens of warm water ports.
Depends on who we are talking about. Russian neighbors in general were preparing for this for a long time. German and France has to speak for themselves.
Chechens begged for lots of help but we ignored them which made it easier for Russia to takeover and the extremist Salafists to hijack the cause.
Well, taking western citizens hostage and blackmailing money was not helpful. Behaving in a civilized manner would help, not talking about a functional civil society able to elect a legitimate government.
 

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The moment and result of the missile strike on the hangars in Kremenchug in Ukraine. Russian troops attacked the area of the Kremenchug plant of road machines "Kredmash" in the hangars of which, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, foreign ammunition was stored. As a result of the missile strike, the blast wave from the detonation of ammunition damaged the Amstor shopping center located nearby, as a result of which a fire started there. Ukrainian media reported that the strike of Russian missiles was aimed at the Amstor shopping center in Kremenchug. But on the frames that you see, a crater from a rocket impact is clearly visible and it is located on the territory of the hangars of the Kremenchug plant of road machines "Kredmash".


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* Russia used 2 ancient Kh-22 rockets with accuracy 300 m to hit factory in center.
* Both rockets missed the huge factory.
* First rocket hit a small hill 25 m from shopping center and destroying it.
* Second rocket landed 30 m from one of the factory buildings, damaging it.
* There was no any secondary explosions nor any evidence of ammo storage there contrary to Russian claims.

Using ancient inaccurate rockets with huge 960 kg warhead in the middle of the city is obviously a war crime and terrorism. What's worse they attacked in day time.
 

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This is easy one. Four members of NATO and Ukraine, sent their presidents in the height of war to capital of Georiga ( Polish Lech Kaczynski, Lithuanian Valdas Adamkus, Ukranian Viktor Juštšenko ning Latvian Ivars Godmanis) to support the Georgian state:
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US sent his warships into GEorgia during the war to deliver humanitarian aid:

Depends on who we are talking about. Russian neighbors in general were preparing for this for a long time. German and France has to speak for themselves.

Well, taking western citizens hostage and blackmailing money was not helpful. Behaving in a civilized manner would help, not talking about a functional civil society able to elect a legitimate government.

Poland and the Baltic countries have warned about Russia for decades.

I give credit where its due good on them.

I guess my arguments were for France and Germany along with Italy and lesser extent the UK. But the UK is doing more right now.
 
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KYIV, June 29 (Reuters) - Indonesian President Joko Widodo offered on Wednesday to deliver a message from Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskiy to Russian leader Vladimir Putin to try to boost peace hopes.

It was not immediately clear how Zelenskiy responded to the offer made by Jokowi - as President Widodo is known - during talks in Kyiv or whether the Ukrainian leader had any message he wished to send to Putin.

Jokowi is the chair of the Group of 20 nations and one of six leaders the United Nations has appointed as "champions" of a Global Crisis Response Group, formed to address the threat of a hunger and destitution posed by the war in Ukraine.

After his visit to Ukraine, Jokowi is due to go to Moscow to meet Putin, and has said he will urge the Russian president to agree to a ceasefire. Peace talks between Moscow and Kyiv are frozen, with each side blaming the other.

"Even though it's very hard to achieve, I expressed the importance of a peace resolution," Jokowi said after meeting Zelenskiy. "I offered to deliver a message from President Zelenskiy to President Putin whom I'll meet soon."

Before Russia's invasion of Ukraine Feb. 24, Ukraine was one of Indonesia's biggest wheat suppliers, but a Russian sea blockade has halted Kyiv's Black Sea grain exports, threatening a global food crisis.

Jokowi has said he is committed to tackling the rise in food and energy prices and shortages since Russia's invasion.

"All efforts must be made to ensure Ukraine can resume exporting food," he said in Kyiv, underlining the need for safety guarantees for Ukrainian food deliveries, especially by sea.

Jokowi, who arrived in Kyiv from Poland by train on Wednesday morning, repeated an invitation for Zelenskiy to attend a G20 leaders’ summit in Indonesia’s Bali in November.

He also visited the town of Irpin where Ukraine suspects Russian soldiers committed atrocities. Moscow denies the allegations.
 

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The Russian Defense Ministry showed footage of a Mi-35 helicopter sortie in Ukraine. Pilots of the Mi-35 in the roll-up mode carried out an attack on targets and at low altitude left the air defense of Ukraine.


The blow of Russian soldiers from the Kornet ATGM was caught on video. A group of Ukrainian soldiers moved along the forest belt towards the positions of the Ukrainian army. To strike at the enemy, the Russian crew used the 9M133FM-2 missile with a thermobaric warhead, this type of missile can hit infantry and light equipment at a distance of up to 8000 meters.


The militia in Donetsk carried out the modernization of the BMP-2, equipping it with dynamic armor and a Romel box. Also, the protection of the T-64 tank was significantly enhanced, additional elements were added to the standard elements of dynamic protection. "Rommel box" - a turret tank box designed to store ammunition and ammunition, was widely used in the Second World War on the tanks of the African Corps of the German army. The BMP-2 was protected by dynamic armor and equipped with a Romel box, also with dynamic protection. The Ukrainian T-64 tank was reinforced with dynamic protection, and even better than the protection that is on the modernized T-64 tank, and was also equipped with a Romel box.

 

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This war has turned into a ww1 situation of high attrition rates.

So the one with the most men and equipment will win but at a high cost. Thats not good news for Ukraine.

You can see both sides now bringing surplus stuff even stuff from ww2.

If Russia wins this war it will be a win with enormous costs.

Its already been 4 months with no end in sight. Im wondering if the Russian command promises soldiers this war would end before easter or even christmas. How wrong they were.

Ukrainians are really fighting hard credit where its due. Some countries would have surrendered and quit. Enormous casualties leads to morale lost.

Thats why Russia is upping the civilian caaualties to hit morale and make the Ukrainians quit because they cant see more of their own people die for nothing.

Russia has tried this so many times like in Chechnya where Grozny was the most bombed city on this planet. It was so awful that lead to Chechens giving up because the sight was so bad.
 

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....If Russia wins this war it will be a win with enormous costs.....
And Putin aka the Russian government is willing to pay that price - knowing that NATO in Ukraine being just 500km from Moscow - will be a far more heavier price to pay in the future.
 

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And Putin aka the Russian government is willing to pay that price - knowing that NATO in Ukraine being just 500km from Moscow - will be a far more heavier price to pay in the future.
still, cause of this war, now n for the future, NATOs weaponry will and always stick in front putin/russias nose(UA)
 

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And Putin aka the Russian government is willing to pay that price - knowing that NATO in Ukraine being just 500km from Moscow - will be a far more heavier price to pay in the future.
Putin isn't paying the price, it's Russians, especially soldiers from poor villages, who are paying it.

Also, NATO could turn Moscow into glass from 5000km or 10,000km away or from anywhere else on the planet - being 500km from Moscow stopped being relevant 50 years ago.

Every single one of your posts is delusional drivel. That's what happens to people when they live in a totalitarian Marxist hellhole.
 

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And Putin aka the Russian government is willing to pay that price - knowing that NATO in Ukraine being just 500km from Moscow - will be a far more heavier price to pay in the future.
Well, for now he lost whole Baltic sea, Its now all NATO and russia can scrap their Baltic fleet.
 
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