Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

[GoatsMilk]

This terrorism is for the domestic Russian viewership's consumption, to make Putin not look so weak.

This is also a good time to reiterate a point I've made before: a while back Russia implied they would nuke Ukraine if they hit the Kerch bridge (or any other part of Crimea). As always, it was a bluff. The entirety of Russia's military power is not actual power but the perception of power, therefore they can do nothing else but bluff.

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Russians been milking the nuclear threat for the past 60 years.

 

[Azbaroj]

You sound very strange and odd as if Ukrainians also attacked on Russian civilians and cities which would make it "real war"!

You would be right and it would make real war if Ukrainians bombed residential buildings in Russian cities.
The world "war " means more honored than Russians have done in Ukraine.
"It is an bloody invasion."

In my previous status I told Ukrainian should talk less work more . They must work in a calculative way .
But they bombed Crimea bridge and claim credits.
Ridiculous is , Russia can attack on the capital of Ukraine but if Ukraine attack on any Russian cities with ballistic missiles , it will be a act of legitimate use of Nukes by Russia.
We see in Syria and chechnya , war philosophy of Russia is , bomb everything what is standing , no matter it is a military target or not .
The BEAST has proved that he is a real beast .

 

[Kathirz]

Interesting interview to Abbas Gallyamov, a former speechwriter for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Many things stated here before also but really interesting to hear from someone who knows him really well.

 

[MaciekRS]

In my previous status I told Ukrainian should talk less work more . They must work in a calculative way .
But they bombed Crimea bridge and claim credits.
Ridiculous is , Russia can attack on the capital of Ukraine but if Ukraine attack on any Russian cities with ballistic missiles , it will be a act of legitimate use of Nukes by Russia.
We see in Syria and chechnya , war philosophy of Russia is , bomb everything what is standing , no matter it is a military target or not .
The BEAST has proved that he is a real beast .

This must be a joke
Russians are TERRORISTS that cant go after military targets so they are wasting their rockects on cities.
If they were planning to capture city, yes, I can understand it. But today they only show their WEAKNESS. They cant win by military means, they are trying terror.
But it wont work on Ukrainians

I"m only sad that many people on Ukraine will die before ruZZians figure out that their empire collapsed 30 years ago and their dreams about former glory cost them everything.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Interesting interview to Abbas Gallyamov, a former speechwriter for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Many things stated here before also but really interesting to hear from someone who knows him really well.

Most important point he mentions is the war is lost and cannot be won. The longer it drags out the worse it will be for the stability and survival of the Russian system. Quite a few people came to this conclusion a few months ago on here. Everything since then looks like its moving in that direction.

And the same points mentioned on here, its in the interest of the russian elites to end this losing war as soon as possible, but for Putin he has to drag it out in the hopes that an opportunity presents itself.

 

[GoatsMilk]

In my previous status I told Ukrainian should talk less work more . They must work in a calculative way .
But they bombed Crimea bridge and claim credits.
Ridiculous is , Russia can attack on the capital of Ukraine but if Ukraine attack on any Russian cities with ballistic missiles , it will be a act of legitimate use of Nukes by Russia.
We see in Syria and chechnya , war philosophy of Russia is , bomb everything what is standing , no matter it is a military target or not .
The BEAST has proved that he is a real beast .

You don't get it, the more the Russians kill civilians the more the war is highlighted internationally and the more its highlighted internationally the more Ukraine can benefit from international sentiment and receive support.

There is nothing strong or tough about bombing civilians especially when your front lines are collapsing and for the past few months all you do is tactical/goodwill retreats. The Armenians were playing a similar game, on the battlefield they were getting rekt, yet they were launching ballistic missiles even on Baku itself killing civilians. Strategically it achieved absolutely nothing except in strengthening Azerbaijans resolve to kick their occupying asses.

Honestly turn RT off and stop being consumed by soviet style propaganda.

If im russian we need to focus on destroying Ukraines military, not killing civilians. Killing civilians is a losing proposition. Those missiles should have been used on Ukrainian military assets, not civilians. That's so dumb.

Russia has lost this war, at some point you are going to realise that.

 

[Kathirz]

Good recopilation about HIMARS at work:

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[Ecderha]

Most important point he mentions is the war is lost and cannot be won. The longer it drags out the worse it will be for the stability and survival of the Russian system. Quite a few people came to this conclusion a few months ago on here. Everything since then looks like its moving in that direction.

And the same points mentioned on here, its in the interest of the russian elites to end this losing war as soon as possible, but for Putin he has to drag it out in the hopes that an opportunity presents itself.

"The longer it drags out the worse it will be for the stability and survival of the Russian system."

Please have a look Dictators for comparison.
Example: Assad

Dictators do NOT fucking care about their system or people. They Only CARE to stay at POWER
So please stop think in direction of russian system, russian survival etc.
putin do not care about russians. He lost the WAR in Ukraine and he is afraid that others around him will kill him and that is the issue

 

[Kathirz]

You don't get it, the more the Russians kill civilians the more the war is highlighted internationally and the more its highlighted internationally the more Ukraine can benefit from international sentiment and receive support.

There is nothing strong or tough about bombing civilians especially when your front lines are collapsing and for the past few months all you do is tactical/goodwill retreats. The Armenians were playing a similar game, on the battlefield they were getting rekt, yet they were launching ballistic missiles even on Baku itself killing civilians. Strategically it achieved absolutely nothing except in strengthening Azerbaijans resolve to kick their occupying asses.

Honestly turn RT off and stop being consumed by soviet style propaganda.

If im russian we need to focus on destroying Ukraines military, not killing civilians. Killing civilians is a losing proposition. Those missiles should have been used on Ukrainian military assets, not civilians. That's so dumb.

Russia has lost this war, at some point you are going to realise that.

Well those acts, for me is also terror acts and I condemn it, there aren't military targets, we don't have a war declaration among other things... and putting them more on context, we are already on month 8th since the start of the invasion.

From my point of view, targeting civilians might be a reason to say, please Zelensky stop it, we don't have windows, hot water, electricity, imagine a winter like this... Allies have to supply more energy to Ukraine, gas, fuel... with the prices topping.... gaspipes broken, ZNPP treathed, launching cruise missiles over Moldova air domains and trying to drag Luckacheko into the war.... might this change something? Just sit and blockade your door....

For me the message is clear "look I'm an agonizing bear and you should give me this.... if not..." And western support rising everyday, as more terror attacks are being counted... war crimes and more evidences found... The support for Ukranians and current goverment will just be unstoppable.

We should condemn those acts, answer them hard on the battlefield, drop some gm's near their "newest" troops and let them fight between themselves, with a bit of luck and knowing the rest of the world doesn't really like in what they had become today.... maybe their "advance" will turn on Moscow to find the source of the problem.

 

[Woland]

What Russia is doing, as bad as it is, is nothing compared to what the US did bombing just one city. The US got away with that with the media barely mentioning it, so of course Russia sees a green light to do the same thing.

You're forgetting that casualties in Mariupol, the city that Russia had the ability to shell and bomb freely, are estimated at over 100,000. This is 10 times greater than what is claimed in your article in regards to Mosul.

I'm not justifying US actions and generally dislike whataboutism in an argument; wrong is wrong regardless of who practices it. However the comparison here is not accurate even if we accept whataboutism.

Pre-war Mosul had a population of 1.4 million, of which 9000-11000 were killed (source: macrotrends.net/cities/21536/mosul/population)
Pre-war Mariupol had a population 450,000, of which over 100,000 were killed (the over 100,000 figure was recently accepted by Timothy Snyder, but even conservative estimates are now over 20,000).

That's a difference of 0.71% to 22.22%.

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579532140710359041

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579523599194820609

 

[UkroTurk]

MANPADS hits a cruise missile

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When there is a daylight, even an ordinary soldier can notice the cruise missile.

That's why orcs attack at night.

Ukraine urges M-SHORAD Strykers with radar plates. That would suppres cruise missile attacks.

Even AVENGER humwees with IIR cameras could save a lot of life.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Well those acts, for me is also terror acts and I condemn it, there aren't military targets, we don't have a war declaration among other things... and putting them more on context, we are already on month 8th since the start of the invasion.

From my point of view, targeting civilians might be a reason to say, please Zelensky stop it, we don't have windows, hot water, electricity, imagine a winter like this... Allies have to supply more energy to Ukraine, gas, fuel... with the prices topping.... gaspipes broken, ZNPP treathed, launching cruise missiles over Moldova air domains and trying to drag Luckacheko into the war.... might this change something? Just sit and blockade your door....

For me the message is clear "look I'm an agonizing bear and you should give me this.... if not..." And western support rising everyday, as more terror attacks are being counted... war crimes and more evidences found... The support for Ukranians and current goverment will just be unstoppable.

We should condemn those acts, answer them hard on the battlefield, drop some gm's near their "newest" troops and let them fight between themselves, with a bit of luck and knowing the rest of the world doesn't really like in what they had become today.... maybe their "advance" will turn on Moscow to find the source of the problem.

The Ukrainian leadership i think in many ways has been successful because they understand the russian mindset entirely. Its very different to say AK party leadership, who think if you keep appeasing Russia that things will be ok.

So Ukraine knows that whatever you give these russians today, by tomorrow the terms will have changed unilaterally and by the end of the week they will come again for more.

So the safest and best course of action is to continue the war and lobby governments for more weapons. Its my own opinion and its been this way even before it started that Turkey should supply more advanced weaponry to Ukraine. Electric warfare systems, rocket guided artillery and bigger drones with cruise missiles would be a good way to go.

Anyway, the Ukrainians will be looking for something bigger then the Kerch bridge next time.

 

[Era_shield]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1579529090121748480

 

[Ryder]

The Ukrainian leadership i think in many ways has been successful because they understand the russian mindset entirely. Its very different to say AK party leadership, who think if you keep appeasing Russia that things will be ok.

So Ukraine knows that whatever you give these russians today, by tomorrow the terms will have changed unilaterally and by the end of the week they will come again for more.

So the safest and best course of action is to continue the war and lobby governments for more weapons. Its my own opinion and its been this way even before it started that Turkey should supply more advanced weaponry to Ukraine. Electric warfare systems, rocket guided artillery and bigger drones with cruise missiles would be a good way to go.

Anyway, the Ukrainians will be looking for something bigger then the Kerch bridge next time.

Its not appeasement Erdogan has lots of Eurasianists not to mention Dogu Perincek saved his ass while Erdogan returned the favour.

Turkish foreign policy is split with two camps its either Eurasia aka(Russia, China and Iran) or Nato. Turkiye needs a independant and pragmatic policy rather than being in any stupid camp.

As you mentioned being in these camps leads too much appeasement because we have to balance both sides which comes at a cost.

Turkic World and the Islamic world have to be strong to form their own camp if not they will be forced to join one.

USA/EU/Nato, Russia and China dont have their best interests at their hearts for us.

 

[Azbaroj]

This must be a joke
Russians are TERRORISTS that cant go after military targets so they are wasting their rockects on cities.
If they were planning to capture city, yes, I can understand it. But today they only show their WEAKNESS. They cant win by military means, they are trying terror.
But it wont work on Ukrainians

I"m only sad that many people on Ukraine will die before ruZZians figure out that their empire collapsed 30 years ago and their dreams about former glory cost them everything.

Targeting a Russian bridge is opening a new front . Definitely your enemy will answer this humiliation . In response Russian targeted glass bridge ,power stations and residentials building . As usual they will claim these building were military targets .
My point is , by targetting bridge and claims it's credit is a foolish job .
Ukrainians should not expect that , it will not unanswered by Putin .
Ukraine gain nothing from it but sufferings of Ukrainian people , it was my point .
By bombing power stations and bridges Putin give them a message , if you do this or do that we will send you to the stone age .
When you fight a terrorist much more stronger than you , you must be intelligent to face him , this is not a joke .

 

[Azbaroj]

The Ukrainian leadership i think in many ways has been successful because they understand the russian mindset entirely. Its very different to say AK party leadership, who think if you keep appeasing Russia that things will be ok.

So Ukraine knows that whatever you give these russians today, by tomorrow the terms will have changed unilaterally and by the end of the week they will come again for more.

So the safest and best course of action is to continue the war and lobby governments for more weapons. Its my own opinion and its been this way even before it started that Turkey should supply more advanced weaponry to Ukraine. Electric warfare systems, rocket guided artillery and bigger drones with cruise missiles would be a good way to go.

Anyway, the Ukrainians will be looking for something bigger then the Kerch bridge next time.

In my opinion targeting Kretch bridge Ukranians gained nothing but sufferings of peoples .
As HIMARS were doing their job well and Russians has no answer of HIMARS , why they need to open a new front .
I think perhaps you are not aware of giving about military aid . Germans did not give arms to Ukraine, even Britain France also give by many limitations .
USA is not providing long range missiles .
Turkey maintaining a very good relations with both sides . Lavarov express their unhappines to Turkey for giving military aid to Ukraine .
Turkish leadership is not so immature like you to give advance weapons to Ukraine. They know their limitations what you do not realise . Please try to be logical rational and mature thinking . Please Don't lead by emotions . Remember , it is not a war of Turkey , it is a problem of west and Russia .

 

[Era_shield]

In my opinion targeting Kretch bridge Ukranians gained nothing but sufferings of peoples .
As HIMMES were doing their job well and Russians has no answer of HIMMERS , why they need to open a new front .

They need to cut off this supply route for their soon to launch Kherson counteroffensive, otherwise Russia could just keep sending more and more equipment and ammo against it.

 

[UkroTurk]

Additional modern air defense systems are coming

Readout of President Joe Biden’s Call with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine | The White House

President Joseph R. Biden, Jr., spoke today with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy of Ukraine. He expressed his condemnation of Russia’s missile strikes across Ukraine, including in Kyiv, and conveyed his condolences to the loved ones of those killed and injured in these senseless attacks...

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