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Yeah, AKP is definitely compromised. Any other government would be driving sharp geopolitical needles into every soft spot in Russia to make sure it either dies completely (my favorite option) or weakens it so badly that Russia will be forced to bow to all their neighbors.
 

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Erdogan pushing for ceasefire in Ukraine.


That will benefit Putin greatly if it happens. Ukrainians will lose out since the momentum is with them to take back all their occupied land. If a frozen conflict is established in Ukraine with erdogans activism, you will see Russia redirect her efforts against Turkey in syria, liby and other places.
Wont happen
Ukraine's Zelensky said that they will never accept a ceasefire ever

Whatever Erdogan do to appear as some1 who likes peace wont do shit since Ukrainians are out for blood and revenge
 

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Yeah, AKP is definitely compromised. Any other government would be driving sharp geopolitical needles into every soft spot in Russia to make sure it either dies completely (my favorite option) or weakens it so badly that Russia will be forced to bow to all their neighbors.
Russia can produce food, energy and has nuclear weapons, so in reality no one can destroy Russia. Only possibility is that it comes from within. Also , the longer this lasts , there is distinct possibility that friendly governments towards Russia to appear. Basically, they want that the politics of 19th century to return. What other side wants , well Pelosi visit in to Erevan tells you that. These are basically disgusting devils , both want in their own way to play the second half of the game in which the first half ended 1923. Basically all it can be done is to buy the time and do something with it. I think , that's exactly what's happening now.
 

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one can destroy Russia
Russia was already destroyed a century ago.

Russian federation occured as same as Ukraine occured.

Ukraine didn't leave Russia, the country left USSR.!!!

There is no difference between two countries and it makes Putin mad:))
 

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Ukraine should never accept a ceasefire
This will just make Russia re-arm and reverse the current Ukrainian momentum


If they care about cease fire they would have done that long ago but now since Russia is losing momentum, they are begging for a ceasefire to maintain the current status

This may also be related to the destruction of the railway line of Crimean bridge! It will take a while to fix and this will put the whole Russian's Southern frontline into absolute danger


If ukraine accepts it, then the Ukrainians will lose the war
 
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Ukraine should never accept a ceasefire
This will just make Russia re-arm and reverse the current Ukrainian momentum


If they care about cease fire they would have done that long ago but now since Russia is losing momentum, they are begging for a ceasefire to maintain the current status

This may also be related to the destruction of the railway line of Crimean bridge! It will take a while to fix and this will put the whole Russian's Southern frontline into absolute danger


If ukraine accepts it, then the Ukrainians will lose the war
Let us compare;

Greek Army invaded Turkey, they come near to Ankara. Great offensive started and we began to win against Greek army for the first time since the invasion. At that time Greek army calls for ceasefire and Ataturk stops the offensive instead of sweeping them to Agean...

Russia would use this opportunity to bolster their defences in Luhansk and Kherson, and continue to press hard in Donetsk. If i can see that Ukranian officials would be seeing too.
 

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Let us compare;

Greek Army invaded Turkey, they come near to Ankara. Great offensive started and we began to win against Greek army for the first time since the invasion. At that time Greek army calls for ceasefire and Ataturk stops the offensive instead of sweeping them to Agean...

Russia would use this opportunity to bolster their defences in Luhansk and Kherson, and continue to press hard in Donetsk. If i can see that Ukranian officials would be seeing too.

I wonder if back then if people were trying to fool Ataturk into forming some kind of ceasefire once the momentum shifted into Turkish hands. Even in the recent Azerbaijan conflict the USA/Russia and France were trying to force a ceasefire since it would have stopped Armenia from losing further.

The Russians attempted the entire occupation and invasion of Ukraine, they didn't care about Ukraine whatsoever, now they are getting crushed on the battlefield and making one "goodwill gesture retreat" after another, people are talking about ceasefires.

Only way Ukraine loses this war now is via dirty politics.
 

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