Westerners fail to realise how Slavic societies are.
They have no right to be imposing their hypocritical morality on the Ukrainians and Russians.
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I could be posting tons of videos of Ukrainians shooting civilians and their own men while a certain user here posts stories. But there is no point trying to prove anything here when a "american" ex-"marine" "mercenary" lecture s your own armed forces about morals. This story spread throughout twitter so I am sure the Ukrainians are pissed about the truth spreading out
The USSR would have lost the war without aid from the US. This is not up for debate, and is according to both Stalin, Zhukov and Khrushchev.People forget the factories the Soviets had that constantly churned out weapons.
Not just lend lease.
Lend lease is overrated i think the biggest help the Americans and British did for the Russians was by bombing the German war factories 24/7.
Not only the German military capabilties got crippled the Germans could no longer supply their military with weapons while the Soviets got lend lease and their factories were tucked away in the Urals.
People forget the factories the Soviets had that constantly churned out weapons.
Not just lend lease.
Lend lease is overrated i think the biggest help the Americans and British did for the Russians was by bombing the German war factories 24/7.
Not only the German military capabilties got crippled the Germans could no longer supply their military with weapons while the Soviets got lend lease and their factories were tucked away in the Urals.
So enlighten us and tell us "how Slavic societies are"?Westerners fail to realise how Slavic societies are.
They have no right to be imposing their hypocritical morality on the Ukrainians and Russians.
What a romantic mass murderer.
The USSR would have lost the war without aid from the US. This is not up for debate, and is according to both Stalin, Zhukov and Khrushchev.
Here is a quote from the memoirs of Nikita Khrushchev: "I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany's pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don't think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so. "
Furthermore:
- Stalin told Harry Hopkins, FDR's emissary to Moscow in 1941, that the USSR could not match Germany's might as an occupier of Europe and its resources.
- At the Tehran conference in 1943, Stalin publicly stated: "Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war."
- Marshall Zhukov, who was the top commander for the USSR during WWII stated in 1963: "One cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war."
Boris Sokolov who reexamined the war effort after Soviet archives became public reached the same conclusion, not to mention others like Ian Kershaw, Mark Harrison, Wendy Goldman, Donald Filtzer, etc.
Lend lease was considerable aid to USSR. The sheer number of trucks especially that helped USSR to not be as flat-footed as Germans eventually ended up being.
USSR essentially never had to rely on vastly inferior horses (esp during winter when these would just freeze) as result.
Logistically trucks in that war were everything in the ability for formations to be supplied and maneuvered adequately.
Not to mention they were the lifeline for sieged cities like Leningrad (St. Petersburg) which would have otherwise been lost or entirely starved out.
I somewhat know in detail, the story of one of the greatest chess champion of USSR... he never liked to talk about it much, but his father was killed supplying Leningrad....when german artillery fell on the frozen lake (Ladoga) he was driving on and his truck immediately sunk into the lake.
Those are parts of that war that often are not known that well.
Lend lease also helped divert industrial factory capacity within USSR for other war manufacturing.
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@Nein2.0(Nomad) , probably the largest exception (given scale of what mongols did to kievan rus) to what i was talking about just now:defencehub.live
Combat, War, Geopolitics History and Analysis
@Nein2.0(Nomad) , probably the largest exception (given scale of what mongols did to kievan rus) to what i was talking about just now:defencehub.live
When the Soviets admit it themselves about how lend lease saved their asses I guess my comments are irrelevant there.
Russians purposely ignored all of this to create a nice myth about how they won WW2 single handedly.
Never knew how important lend lease was.
The things I would do to people that lay hands on old woman like this....
I could be posting tons of videos of Ukrainians shooting civilians and their own men while a certain user here posts stories. But there is no point trying to prove anything here when a "american" ex-"marine" "mercenary" lecture s your own armed forces about morals. This story spread throughout twitter so I am sure the Ukrainians are pissed about the truth spreading out
I don't mean to defend the Soviet Union but Lend-Lease wasn't the sole reason that they were able to push back the Germans. By the time Lend-Lease was in full swing, Germans had already been defeated at Stalingrad and withdrawing from the USSR's core territories. What is generally ignored is that this withdrawal was mostly Germans doing it on purpose to get to more defensible territory where they had the advantage rather than them being routed but the losses in North Africa, Italy and invasion of France caused them to have to remove manpower from the Eastern Front to counter the Allies in the West.
Without Allied pressure in the Mediterranean and especially the invasion of France, Germany could have probably held on indefinitely against the Russians even with Lend-Lease. Germans wouldn't be able to defeat the USSR with their shitty logistics but the USSR also wouldn't be able to push Germany back to Berlin solo even with Lend-Lease. It would just be a brutal stalemate not very much different to what we are seeing in Ukraine now.
It's terrible that not a single person intervened in the situation. No adequate person will allow such a thing to happen in his presence.One of the most morally bankrupt nations on earth.
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