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I've been pushing the idea of Turkey sending their upgraded M60s for a while now. They're logistically easy to maintain and still capable against a lot of Russian junk armor. Turkey has more than 700 of them in reserve. Obviously their Leopard 2s and Altays are there Frontline tanks these days.
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So russia is now stealining Indian tanks
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Russia also bombed the factory that housed Azerbaijani MIG29 Fulcrums that were getting upgraded in Ukraine before the war.
Not surprised
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haha Russian "ceasefire"...where had I heard this b4 ?
Shelling continues despite Putin's call for 'humanitarian pause' in Syria | CNN
Shelling continued in Syria's besieged rebel-held enclave of Eastern Ghouta on Tuesday, interrupting a five-hour "humanitarian pause" ordered by Russia.
In addition to that, let's analyze the European situation in current winter.
Russia has fired one-time shooting gas weapon, counting on freezing the Europe. Too early to tell but relatively soft winter and damaging prices have drastically reduced gas consumption has kept reserves in the highest levels over the years. Considering the quick construction of LNG gas ports in FInland, Germany, Estonia and rest of Europe, need for Russian gas has been reduced dramatically. So no big need and no shortage of gas supplies has driven the gas prices into much cheaper level than before the conflict. It can change, but shot form this weapon has been absorbed pretty safely.
Yes, the prices of different types energy has gone up, sometimes twice. Surprisingly, the wood based heating material has increased three-four times, but this is renewable energy source and at least Estonia can produce its own. It takes a bit time to balance the offer-demand ratio, but it can be done by people themselves. It takes time and some hard work, but doable.
Inflation in Estonia has been quickest after the collapse of USSR, but considering the threat and war close by, not too bad. Well, the new car has to wait in store for bit longer, until salaries catch up with the inflation; some less cost-effective and energy consuming companies has to close down. Perhaps for good, economy has to adopt and loose some extra weight meanwhile. It will be justifiably easier after the war to rebild the economy, as long we are free to do so.
As I see, Russia has done it's worst in economy field and perhaps managed to influence a game a bit, but by far not enough to cut Ukrainia off from supplies. More like contrary, weapons flow increases as miitary industry is catching up with demand. Putin is not a nice guy and more than willing to execute hundreds thousands of their own men, not talking about the rest.
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While America is trying to establish a terrorist state in our south, while our army is fighting the PKK, While Azerbaijan is struggling with Armenia and Iran, some Türk commentators say let's send the m60, m48, m47 to Ukraine. Very meaningful, definitely very meaningful!
What a great non-Muslim love this is! Muslims and Türks never come to your mind, but you are willing to give whatever you have for the Ukrainians.
Let's send the m60, m48 tanks to ukraine, they will beat the russians.
Then, it is clear that when America is done there, it will make Greece and Türkiye fight. At that time, Zelensky sends these tanks to Greece. May be
What a great non-Muslim love this is! Muslims and Türks never come to your mind, but you are willing to give whatever you have for the Ukrainians.
Let's send the m60, m48 tanks to ukraine, they will beat the russians.
Then, it is clear that when America is done there, it will make Greece and Türkiye fight. At that time, Zelensky sends these tanks to Greece. May be
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I don't know how many tanks and armored vehicles the Russians have left.Do you know how many tanks are still in reserve? How many armored vehicles? Not new, but still better then russian ones.
US will start sending Bradleys, they have about 6000 of them in reserve and those are solid enough to even T72s (as they prove in Iraq)
UK have about 500 Warriors, and what about 300 Challengers 1 from Jordan? Jordan is happy to replace it.
In Poland, there are still some 100 PT91 to go and what next? IF US provide us with replacement Abrams, 200 Leo 2 is ready to go. Sonner or later they WILL be gone as our tank force will be of Abrams and K2 (after 2025)
The truth is Russia has many things from cold war era, but the other side has that too. AND whats more important russia CANT outproduce west. They thought Europe will freeze this winter and what happened?
And look how many Ukrainian soldiers went abroad to train on something. You think they train for the 6 months in US, in UK, in Poland just how to shoot from handgun? I dont think so
There is russian forum where today some russian user wrote "This war has long been lost, just not everyone wants to admit it"
But what I know is that there are wagons on tank and armored vehicle train videos for Belarus on the net.
In other words, they have so many that they can send to Belarus.
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They have so many that they TOOK AWAY tanks and other weapons FROM Belarus earlier AND they even have to steal tanks from India.
King is naked, deal with it.
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BREAKING: Polish PM: "Together with President A. Duda, we are building a coalition of European countries that will be able to deliver Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine. We will provide more details soon."
Poland will not act alone regarding Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine: "We ourselves, as Poland, without a broader coalition, do not intend to hand over these tanks now" - Polish PM
Poland will not act alone regarding Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine: "We ourselves, as Poland, without a broader coalition, do not intend to hand over these tanks now" - Polish PM
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It may have been shared before. It seems that the UK had sent a large and valuable delivery this week. On the same day, military shipments were also being made from TR to Romania, for Ukraine.
