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I just came to post this. 19 CAESARS is an enormous donation. That's an entire battalion of self propelled artillery, to go along with the battalion (18) of M109A6 Paladins that the U.S. will announce tomorrow, the 12 Archers that Sweden announced this morning and the 8 AS-90 that Britain announced early this week. 3 new battalions worth of artillery is no joke!
 

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Britain 🇬🇧 has also announced that it will send 600 Brimstone missiles to Ukraine. Brimstone missiles have a range of 20-60km depending on the variant. They're exceptionally accurate and will be able to supplement GMLRS and GLDSB.
 

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Let's send our 600 M48 A5T2 tanks. Rest assured, those tanks are more combat-ready than most Leopard tanks in Europe. :)

In return, Germany should send us 600 Europack power packs (MTU+Renk 1500 HP). "We don't even want a tank, just send the power pack." let's say.

Let's see what will they say? :)
 

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Dont forget the part that 65,000 Ukrainians fought to hold Bakhmut against a smaller Wagner force
65 quadrillion.

but instead the loss rate was 5 Ukrainians for every 1 Russian soldier
The documented loss of equipment:
Russia - 8736
Ukraine - 2811
Trust me I don't go 100% believing a side will win the war like most here would do, I am still 50/50.
Both sides lost the war.

Russia destroyed its future. It is isolated, it will lose over hundred of billion $ EACH YEAR, until Putin dies and Russia pays compensation to Ukraine.

Ukraine suffered huge destruction and millions of refugees.
 

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The documented loss of equipment:
Russia - 8736
Ukraine - 2811
you mean 10,000 T-14 armatas destroyed, who here even listens to ukrainian soldiers crying about getting massacred here everyday anyways when you can always trust CNN and western reports.
 

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Atleast the Germans are smart sending leopards after Abrams get used so all western tanks in the market will get criticized equally with their performance next in Ukraine. According to map posted earlier and Ukrainian soldiers interviewed Ukraine needs more artillery than they need tanks.




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you mean 10,000 T-14 armatas destroyed, who here even listens to ukrainian soldiers crying about getting massacred here everyday anyways when you can always trust CNN and western reports.
I am talking about the DOCUMENTED losses.


Russia - 8736
Ukraine - 2811
 

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Ukraine's gun artillery is basically a military fanboy f*p material... sorted from the most advanced

1. RCH 155 -18 (tbd)

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2. Panzerhaubitze 2000 (18 +100 Tbd)

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3. AHS Krab (18 + 54 Tbd)
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5. ARCHER (12 tbd)
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6. CAESAR 6x6/8x8 (18 +6 +18 tbd)
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7. Dana M2 (30)
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8. Zuzana 2 (24)
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9. M109A6 (18 Tbd)
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10. M109A3GN/ A5OE/ A4BE ( 23 + 6 + 20tbd)
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11. AS90 (30 Tbd)
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Russian troll factory worked hard to disprove Oryx, but failed.
I am going to be a broken record at this rate because some here just want to stick with a delusional ghost of kyiv or babushka shooting down russian aircraft with jar of pickles sources so I will go do this again for you even though its going to get memoryholed by you and many seething users here.

https://militaryland.net/maps/deployment-map/ how can you claim to be rambo if a smaller force is pushing you back and they still are? Do you have a room temperature IQ to believe that Wagner lost 30k of 40k soldiers without asking for reinforcements to regoup to immediately attack in all directions or no?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/ when western journos interview ukraine in the September offensives of them pushing the Russian's back this is what they had to say.

“We lost five people for every one they did,” said Ihor, a 30-year-old platoon commander who injured his back when the tank he was riding in crashed into a ditch.

Oleksandr said the Russian artillery fire was relentless. “They were just hitting us all the time,” he said. “If we fire three mortars, they fire 20 in return.”


https://www.bitchute.com/video/HTj4avo3F0HM/ "0:36 We are tankmen god damn it! We were 30 something tanks, barely 7 remains."

I get it that pro-Ukraine users will listen to pro-ukraine sources, but how come pro-ukraine users dont want to listen to Pro-ukraine soldiers talking about the conflict assuming anyone here even gives a shit about Ukraine winning?

I will pretend with you that Ukraine did lose 2000 tanks and the Russians lost 5 times the amount (although there are many contradictions to this.) Why switch to western tanks? Can't be out of ammunition excuse because

1. soviet tanks have been modified to use soviet ammunition and its already dead obvious that NATO supplied and trained Ukrainian troops for 8 yearshttp://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1188.html (considering post-soviet block nations don't like Russia more than likely all their soviet tanks have been modified to use NATO ammunition when becoming a part of NATO)

2.they had an entire year to have been supplied with western equipment in case so called ammo shortages did happen.

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this source was from february 2, 2022 highlighting Ukraine's equipment before of course they started getting a shitload of more tanks from the middle east and post soviet block countries. but requesting strykers, canadian armoured vehciles, bradleys, abrams, challengers, leopards more armoured vehicles, etc usually you dont go requesting all this shit a year later than prior to the war unless some country is reducing the shit out of the equipment you were using in the war, these numbers are already higher than what Oryx claims as their own tank losses.

I hope you read this because I think you are really invested Ukraine will win and if they don't, i don't know if this will make you fall into a state of depression to start drinking or hopefully not tie a noose to a tree.
 
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Just in case anyone is fooled by @blackjack post#19118. That is a video of an non DU armored Iraqi M1A1 tank getting hit by ISIS not Houthis in Iraq. And if anyone familiar with the video. The crewmen survive the blast, unlike what you'll see in a Soviet T series tanks once its turrets are on fire.

You can see it here

 

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